On 26/11/2023 at 07:04, Chelly said:

My early top 10 for next year

1. Finn O'Sullivan - 181cm Vic Country 
2. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm Vic Metro (Lions F/S)
3. Sid Draper - 180cm South Australia 
4. Josh Smillie - 194cm Vic Metro 
5. Leonardo Lombard - 178cm Allies (Suns Academy) 
6. Tyler Welsh - 191 cm South Australia  (Crows F/S)
7. Jagga Smith - 181cm Vic Metro 
8. Christian Moraes - 182cm Vic Metro 
9. Tom Gross - 182cm Vic Metro 
10. Ben Camporeale - 184cm South Australia  (Carlton F/S)

This suggests that we should be looking forward to more bidding for academy and father/sons but not to the scale extent that we saw in last week’s draft.

Throw Sam Marshall from Lions Academy into the mix. Hes probably about ranking 12-14 right now. Another draft with academy and father son impact through the first round.  😭

Eye on the future: 10 draft prospects to watch in 2024

24 in 2024: A look ahead to next year’s top prospects

 

On 26/11/2023 at 08:04, Chelly said:

My early top 10 for next year

1. Finn O'Sullivan - 181cm Vic Country 
2. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm Vic Metro (Lions F/S)
3. Sid Draper - 180cm South Australia 
4. Josh Smillie - 194cm Vic Metro 
5. Leonardo Lombard - 178cm Allies (Suns Academy) 
6. Tyler Welsh - 191 cm South Australia  (Crows F/S)
7. Jagga Smith - 181cm Vic Metro 
8. Christian Moraes - 182cm Vic Metro 
9. Tom Gross - 182cm Vic Metro 
10. Ben Camporeale - 184cm South Australia  (Carlton F/S)

This suggests that we should be looking forward to more bidding for academy and father/sons but not to the scale extent that we saw in last week’s draft.

Really like the look of Tom Gross. Some have compared him to Rory Sloane.

Jessie Dattoli is another that's worth keeping an eye on from Northern Knights as well Stingrays pair Harvey Langford and Cooper Hynes. Josh Murphy from the Bushies showed a bit in the brief time I've seen him play.

Absolutely @Nascent  Tom Gross was a standout even as an under ager player in 2023.  Huge talent. Pace. Decision making.  Skills. Top 10 likely. I agree he could be around 9-10 pick at this stage.  Dees would already have him on the list to closely watch in 2024.  

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Absolutely @Nascent  Tom Gross was a standout even as an under ager player in 2023.  Huge talent. Pace. Decision making.  Skills. Top 10 likely. I agree he could be around 9-10 pick at this stage.  Dees would already have him on the list to closely watch in 2024.  

Kicking looked really ordinary - so i guess he'd fit right on in at the Dees.

@Neil Crompton another elite available mid for next year is Zac Johnson from the Knights.  He is probably rated just outside the top 10 right now. I rate him as highly as Smith and Ashcroft but has been under the radar.  Expect that will change in next years championships. If you watched the futures game on GF day, he showed his power running and skill level.  Whilst it’s another compromised year of father sons and academy picks, there is again lots of excellent talent likely throughout the first round.  

Edited December 2, 20231 yr by spirit of norm smith
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On 19/11/2023 at 18:00, spirit of norm smith said:

26 in the academy. 5 of them are under team academy. Then 3 father sons.  That leaves 18/26 as “available”.  Harvey Langford was very good this year for Stingrays.   Strong taller mid with good left foot disposal.  Not overawed in the contest even as an underager this year.  

Harvey Langford is training with the Dees this pre season.  

On 05/12/2023 at 19:02, spirit of norm smith said:

Harvey Langford is training with the Dees this pre season.  

 

 

On 19/11/2023 at 19:00, spirit of norm smith said:

26 in the academy. 5 of them are under team academy. Then 3 father sons.  That leaves 18/26 as “available”.  Harvey Langford was very good this year for Stingrays.   Strong taller mid with good left foot disposal.  Not overawed in the contest even as an underager this year.  

Is training with us currently- Langford

On 30/11/2023 at 19:07, Nascent said:

Really like the look of Tom Gross. Some have compared him to Rory Sloane.

Jessie Dattoli is another that's worth keeping an eye on from Northern Knights as well Stingrays pair Harvey Langford and Cooper Hynes. Josh Murphy from the Bushies showed a bit in the brief time I've seen him play.

i've known jesse since he was about 12 years old, he's a weapon, seriously profesisonal and will get absolutely everything out of himself, as good as a trainer as there is out there and excellent on both sides of his body

It’s interesting what gets counted as a highlight 

Simple lead and chest mark then kicks to a pack

Is link in a chain of handballs 

some centre clearance gathers from superior ruck work 

but I agree he shows great inside mid pressure and ability to extract 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
 

predicted top 10, with 9 midfielders 

Ashcroft and Welsh go as father son picks to lions and crows respectively 

just outside top 10 are …

Camporeale twins also to the blues 

Sam Marshall is another very high academy pick as a huge bonus gift for Lions 😡

Archer Day-Wicks is a very classy left sided mid and one to watch across this year 

Zac Johnson and Harvey Langford are highly likely top 10 types that I think would be ideal for the Dees , and again both young guns are midfielders 

Jonty Faull is probably the only key forward type available around the mid to late first round. Will be highly sought after  

 

 

The AFL Draft Central folk have been busy producing some excellent profiles on some of the leading draft prospects for 2024:-

Levi Ashcroft

Sid Draper

Finn O’Sullivan

Josh Smillie

Jagga Smith

 

Bombers, Roos and Lions recruiters were in Perth last week conducting interviews with potential draft candidates for 2024.

Sounds like he might be a fair way away from contention at the moment but there’s another Brayshaw on the horizon - Freddie who has made the Sandringham Dragons list. This is an appraisal from Code Sports:-

63 Freddie Brayshaw

The cousin of Angus and Andy Brayshaw and the son of James Brayshaw. A high-level cricketer and footballer at Haileybury College, he's a hard-running wingman for the Dragons, with a view to training as a midfielder later on.

On 02/12/2023 at 12:11, Neil Crompton said:

Kicking looked really ordinary - so i guess he'd fit right on in at the Dees.

Agreed re kicking.  Not good

SID 

On 07/02/2024 at 08:18, Whispering_Jack said:

The AFL Draft Central folk have been busy producing some excellent profiles on some of the leading draft prospects for 2024:-

Levi Ashcroft

Sid Draper

Finn O’Sullivan

Josh Smillie

Jagga Smith

 

SID 👌🏻👍🏼

On 07/02/2024 at 08:18, Whispering_Jack said:

The AFL Draft Central folk have been busy producing some excellent profiles on some of the leading draft prospects for 2024:-

Levi Ashcroft

Sid Draper

Finn O’Sullivan

Josh Smillie

Jagga Smith

 

The top 10 are looking great WJ  but we are unlikely to get a look in, probably more likely picks 15 upward unless we crash and burn. What are the KPF/KPD prospects like in ‘24 do they go deep?

2024 Coates Talent League Boys Testing Day Results

The article reveals the top 10 results recorded by players from Victorian-based clubs at the 2024 Coates Talent Boys Testing Day.

20m Sprint

Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 2.796 sec
Julian Callahan (Gippsland Power/Leongatha) 2.863
Kade Dwyer (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton Swans) 2.872
Jack Gerardi (Western Jets/West Footscray) 2.874
Thomas Legudi (Calder Cannons/Aberfeldie) 2.878
Blake Leidler (Oakleigh Chargers/Surrey Park) 2.879
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 2.882
JayDe Varlet (Dandenong Stingrays/Beaconsfield) 2.884
Cody Anderson (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 2.885
Ben Seers (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 2.886

Standing Vertical Jump

Harley Hicks (GWV Rebels/Lake Wendouree) 83cm
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 79
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 77
Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 77
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 77
Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 76
Brady Hall (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 75
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 75
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 75
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 75

Running Vertical Jump (Right)

Floyd Burmeister (GWV Rebels/Redan) 95cm
Nash Ramage (Bendigo Pioneers/Echuca United) 95
Coen Ainsworth (Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga) 90
Finn O’Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers/Koroit) 90
Gabriel Stumpf (Northern Knights/Warrandyte) 90
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 90
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 89
Harry Armstrong (Sandringham Dragons/Ormond) 87
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 87
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 86

Running Vertical Jump (Left)

Daniel Snell (Western Jets/Yarraville Seddon Eagles) 102
Ben Rongdit (Geelong Falcons/Colac) 98
Archie Taylor (GWV Rebels/Cobden) 96
Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 96
James Allison (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 95
Ned Renfree (GWV Rebels/East Point) 95
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 93
Ryan Muir (Eastern Ranges/Wantirna South) 93
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 93
Jack Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton) 93

Yo-Yo

Jett McLaughlan (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) Level 22.4
Archie Caldow (GWV Rebels/East Point) 22.2
Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris) 22.1
Jeremy Newsome (Eastern Ranges/Healesville) 22.1
Harry Albon (Calder Cannons/Craigieburn) 21.8
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 21.8
Ryan Commandeur (Northern Knights/St Mary’s) 21.8
Liam Farrar (Northern Knights/Diamond Creek) 21.8
Patrick Said (Calder Cannons/Sunbury) 21.8
Zach Travers (Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton) 21.8

AFL Agility

Douglas Kerr (Oakleigh Chargers/Ashburton) 7.724 sec
Oskar Taylor (Eastern Ranges/Upwey Tecoma) 7.764
Lachy Dovaston (Eastern Ranges/Blackburn) 7.777
Sebastian Murphy (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.787
Ollie Hannaford (GWV Rebels/Sandhurst) 7.788
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers) 7.807
Sam McDonald (GWV Rebels/Ballarat) 7.858
Jake Woodward (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.866
Nedd Bennett (GWV Rebels/East Point) 7.876
Thomas Sims (Northern Knights/Montmorency) 7.909

2 hours ago, DeeZone said:

The top 10 are looking great WJ  but we are unlikely to get a look in, probably more likely picks 15 upward unless we crash and burn. What are the KPF/KPD prospects like in ‘24 do they go deep?

Too early to say at this stage. We need to wait for the start of the Coates Boys League in Victoria and the various State League senior and under age competitions elsewhere.

Davo-27's 2024 Top 30 Rankings, Pre-season

1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 181cm - high marking, midfielder, with good centre clearances and general quality disposal of footy, i still think he is likely number 1 pick going into the season
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm - quality small forw, who can also play as an accumulator midfielder, gathering over 30 disposals, good kick at goal, disposal and movement isnt as smooth as Brother Will, but has great flexibility of position
3. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm - great movement and use of footy, moves around the ground well, looks elite at VFL level
4. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm - accumulator mid with good accuracy at goal, can grass a few kicks, but works hard all over the ground to gather the ball and provide run
5. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm - another accumulator mid with amazing work rate, can kick the ball a bit flat and i would like to see more of him, but every time i've seen him i have rated him highly
6. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm - he was the best player for VM at u16s as a mid and hbf, lacks a little speed, but just wins contests and is a good user of the footy, his height also gives him flexibility of roles
7. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 192cm - vice like hands like Stewie Loewe, contested mark specialist, good in the contest, his hands are so good that i think he will have no trouble at the next level playing KPF
8. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm - strong KPD player who has taken a big step last year and could be the best KPD option in this years draft
9. Jonty Faull - GWV - 194cm - made a big impression late last year also coming from nowhere to stake a claim as 1 of the best KPF options
10. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm - showed his worth dominating for SA as a mobile FF who really gave SA some punch up forward, his height is a concern as he doesnt have the vice like grip that Jobe has, but his athleticism is very good and could make up for it? if he doesnt grow could be a valuable 3rd forward which lowers his value a little, but still a high end talent
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm - i have seen a lot of him play in defence and he is just a competitive and skillful player, moves so smoothly for a tallish player and gives his all
12. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 182cm - has had an amazing 2023 and i hear he is on track to have a great 2024 season
13. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm - had a huge u16s year, won sanfl u18s mvp last year, smooth moving midfielder
14. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm - strong inside mid who can play on the outside, can win his own ball and deliver it well, another Tassie player like Sanders playing for Sandy and he looks great, going a bit early, but he has great potential
15. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm - hbf who is moving into the midfield this season, beautiful kick and movement
16. Nash King - Calder - 181cm - love his toughness on the inside and run, but his kicking has dropped him down the rankings a little
17. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm - beautiful kicking midfielder, impressed at u16s with his kicking at goal and in general and also had a good year last year, so im expecting more of the same.
18. Joe Harrison - Syd A 179cm - small sample, but he was amazing in a state game, will have to see more
19. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm - he has always been very good in every team he plays, i really like his character too, he seems to be very confident and capable
20. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 184cm - playing more midfield he has surpassed his brother in form
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 182cm - was fantastic at the u16s champs and has great potential
22. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm - he was huge for Sandy in the pre-season, in bursts he is super clean and skillful
23. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm - ruck/kpf from WA, very talented tall player, had a huge growth spurt so plays with the skills of a small
24. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm - similar player to Ky Pickett, a strong player from the dominant SA team in the u16s
25. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm - tough midfielder, was not at his best this preseason
26. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm - good midfielder from WA, he has a big job to carry a weak WA team this year
27. Ricky Mentha - Gippsland/NT - 179cm - hff who is strong and a good kick, clever player who wins 1 on 1s
28. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm - he looks in great form in preseason, already looks ready for AFL, rising up my rankings, very good KPD potential
29. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm - strong midfielder for VC, lacks a little pace, but he has his fans
30. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm - quick goal kicking small forward, excitement machine

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Davo-27's 2024 Top 30 Rankings, Pre-season

1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh (VC) - 181cm - high marking, midfielder, with good centre clearances and general quality disposal of footy, i still think he is likely number 1 pick going into the season
2. Levi Ashcroft - Sandringham (Bris FS) - 179cm - quality small forw, who can also play as an accumulator midfielder, gathering over 30 disposals, good kick at goal, disposal and movement isnt as smooth as Brother Will, but has great flexibility of position
3. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm - great movement and use of footy, moves around the ground well, looks elite at VFL level
4. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm - accumulator mid with good accuracy at goal, can grass a few kicks, but works hard all over the ground to gather the ball and provide run
5. Sid Draper - Sth Adel - 180cm - another accumulator mid with amazing work rate, can kick the ball a bit flat and i would like to see more of him, but every time i've seen him i have rated him highly
6. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm - he was the best player for VM at u16s as a mid and hbf, lacks a little speed, but just wins contests and is a good user of the footy, his height also gives him flexibility of roles
7. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) - 192cm - vice like hands like Stewie Loewe, contested mark specialist, good in the contest, his hands are so good that i think he will have no trouble at the next level playing KPF
8. Harry O'Farrell - Calder - 196cm - strong KPD player who has taken a big step last year and could be the best KPD option in this years draft
9. Jonty Faull - GWV - 194cm - made a big impression late last year also coming from nowhere to stake a claim as 1 of the best KPF options
10. Tyler Welsh - WWT (Adel FS)- 191cm - showed his worth dominating for SA as a mobile FF who really gave SA some punch up forward, his height is a concern as he doesnt have the vice like grip that Jobe has, but his athleticism is very good and could make up for it? if he doesnt grow could be a valuable 3rd forward which lowers his value a little, but still a high end talent
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm - i have seen a lot of him play in defence and he is just a competitive and skillful player, moves so smoothly for a tallish player and gives his all
12. Christian Moraes - Eastern - 182cm - has had an amazing 2023 and i hear he is on track to have a great 2024 season
13. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel - 182cm - had a huge u16s year, won sanfl u18s mvp last year, smooth moving midfielder
14. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas - 184cm - strong inside mid who can play on the outside, can win his own ball and deliver it well, another Tassie player like Sanders playing for Sandy and he looks great, going a bit early, but he has great potential
15. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh - 186cm - hbf who is moving into the midfield this season, beautiful kick and movement
16. Nash King - Calder - 181cm - love his toughness on the inside and run, but his kicking has dropped him down the rankings a little
17. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm - beautiful kicking midfielder, impressed at u16s with his kicking at goal and in general and also had a good year last year, so im expecting more of the same.
18. Joe Harrison - Syd A 179cm - small sample, but he was amazing in a state game, will have to see more
19. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm - he has always been very good in every team he plays, i really like his character too, he seems to be very confident and capable
20. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 184cm - playing more midfield he has surpassed his brother in form
21. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg (Carl FS) - 182cm - was fantastic at the u16s champs and has great potential
22. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm - he was huge for Sandy in the pre-season, in bursts he is super clean and skillful
23. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm - ruck/kpf from WA, very talented tall player, had a huge growth spurt so plays with the skills of a small
24. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm - similar player to Ky Pickett, a strong player from the dominant SA team in the u16s
25. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm - tough midfielder, was not at his best this preseason
26. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm - good midfielder from WA, he has a big job to carry a weak WA team this year
27. Ricky Mentha - Gippsland/NT - 179cm - hff who is strong and a good kick, clever player who wins 1 on 1s
28. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm - he looks in great form in preseason, already looks ready for AFL, rising up my rankings, very good KPD potential
29. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm - strong midfielder for VC, lacks a little pace, but he has his fans
30. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) - 175cm - quick goal kicking small forward, excitement machine

We'll miss out on Ricky Mentha (Melb NGA) if this list is the actual order of players picked. Mentha needs to fall outside the top 40 for us to grab him.

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss the No. 1 contenders 

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

24. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel (Port NGA) - 174cm - similar player to Ky Pickett, a strong player from the dominant SA team in the u16s

A 2nd Kozzie running around in our team? yes please!