PREGAME: Rd 18 vs Brisbane

[leave it to deever 17,446]

lions have won every game at the Gabba and lost half of their games away from it.

Go Dees. However it will require a much better effort from our worrying fwd line again.

Maybe Bbb will play a blinder. Our backline is wonderful but our small brigade are not doing much and I can't see where a winning score will come from.

Petty needs to go fwd. We simply can't have just one tall again.

Edited July 11, 2023 by leave it to deever

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22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

My husband is coming this Friday... relax, we got this!*

 

 

*as per usual, if we lose, he will be solely blamed for the catastrophic outcome 

My wife is making her season 2023 debut at the footy this Friday and joining me at the President's Lunch (dinner?).

She has a 100% win record at the footy but if we lose there is another person we can blame.

[Adam The God 29,328]

23 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Maybe but I don’t think that Chandler falling off a perch was part of the plan so they may need to reconsider that one…

I reckon by the end of the season, Chandler will be back at the expense of Woey, JVR for Melksham, Clarry for JJ and Fritta for Spargo.

I don't agree with the Spargo one, but I think this is what we'll do if we're at full strength.

[Royal Demon 112]

Please please please play JVR and Ben Brown together. 🙏🙏🙏

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27 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

lions have won every game at the Gabba and lost half of their games away from it.

Go Dees. However it will require a much better effort from our worrying fwd line again.

Maybe Bbb will play a blinder. Our backline is wonderful but our small brigade are not doing much and I can't see where a winning score will come from.

Petty needs to go fwd. We simply can't have just one tall again.

If our backline is on song we don't need a big score to win. Definitely need an extra tall up forward and Gawn/Grundy aren't the answer 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Danger game. 
 

Only joking. We are the underdogs this week. 
 

Dees missing Oliver and Fritsch.  Lions missing only Dunkley. 

Memo to Simon Goodwin 

1- tag Lachie Neale 

2- tag Will Ashcroft 

3- Play through the corridor when we can 

4- hypnotize Kozzzy to remember the player he was in round 1 

5- let Gawn have 65% of ruck time 

 

Serious question: Has hypnotism ever been used to assist an AFL player? 

[rpfc 28,046]

Love how someone getting a LACERATED KIDNEY is getting ‘his body is falling him’ critiques…

Like the nuffies are sitting saying “I knew it, the kidneys are always the first to go”

Hibberd is done when I say he’s done.

 

Ed Note: rpfc still plays at 38 and is sensitive to the subject.

[rpfc 28,046]

Just now, rpfc said:

Love how someone getting a LACERATED KIDNEY is getting ‘his body is falling him’ critiques…

Like the nuffies are sitting saying “I knew it, the kidneys are always the first to go”

Hibberd is done when I say he’s done.

 

Ed Note: rpfc still plays at 38 and is sensitive to the subject.

So now I’m getting ‘editors notes?’ Jeez, is Rhino back or something?… wow.

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58 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

lions have won every game at the Gabba and lost half of their games away from it.

Go Dees. However it will require a much better effort from our worrying fwd line again.

Maybe Bbb will play a blinder. Our backline is wonderful but our small brigade are not doing much and I can't see where a winning score will come from.

Petty needs to go fwd. We simply can't have just one tall again.

Petty ain’t going forward unless we’re getting flogged 

[layzie 32,787]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

My husband is coming this Friday... relax, we got this!*

 

 

*as per usual, if we lose, he will be solely blamed for the catastrophic outcome 

He's undefeated this season yeah?

[layzie 32,787]

13 minutes ago, rpfc said:

So now I’m getting ‘editors notes?’ Jeez, is Rhino back or something?… wow.

Full credit, I'm the same age and feel like I'm about ping a hammy every Indoor Soccer game.

[Jaded No More 67,627]

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

He's undefeated this season yeah?

He is. 
GWS in 2021 is the last time he’s attended a loss. 

[Jaded No More 67,627]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Full credit, I'm the same age and feel like I'm about ping a hammy every Indoor Soccer game.

At nearly 37 I hurt my neck getting out of bed this morning 

[DeeSpencer 24,690]

3 hours ago, A F said:

My prediction is they're going to start reducing Kozzy's TOG and play him through the midfield like the first 10 rounds. And that this was always the plan...

His attack on the contest has been off since round 1 and the one thing he has been bringing is forward pressure. I’m not sure why we’d suddenly take away the one thing he does well and ask him to do more of the thing he hasn’t been doing (winning contested ball).

We also can’t afford to weaken our forward pressure with BBB, 2 rucks and no Chandler. 

[Adam The God 29,328]

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

His attack on the contest has been off since round 1 and the one thing he has been bringing is forward pressure. I’m not sure why we’d suddenly take away the one thing he does well and ask him to do more of the thing he hasn’t been doing (winning contested ball).

We also can’t afford to weaken our forward pressure with BBB, 2 rucks and no Chandler. 

I think we'll see Chandler back, as I noted above, and we'll see Kozzy's involvement as a burst player from stoppages like he was through the first 10 rounds...

[leave it to deever 17,446]

8 minutes ago, A F said:

I think we'll see Chandler back, as I noted above, and we'll see Kozzy's involvement as a burst player from stoppages like he was through the first 10 rounds...

Kozzie and Chandler at their peak game are match winners.

To see them both back in great form is vital.

[Sydee 4,184]

I'm really concerned if they persist with bombing long into F50 Andrews will have a field day and set up attacks repeatedly.

BB has not shown any ability to take contested marks, nor has he demonstrated any real ability to chase or tackle effectively when the ball is in dispute or in the opposition's possession. I know some people will not agree but personally I think we'd be better served playing JVR or even Schache over BB atm.

 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,500]

4 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I'm really concerned if they persist with bombing long into F50 Andrews will have a field day and set up attacks repeatedly.

BB has not shown any ability to take contested marks, nor has he demonstrated any real ability to chase or tackle effectively when the ball is in dispute or in the opposition's possession. I know some people will not agree but personally I think we'd be better served playing JVR or even Schache over BB atm.

 

BBB isn’t there to chase or tackle, and he’s no contested marking beast. But he had 1 goal last week, had a free 25m out that Sparrow kicked under advantage and hit the post so could easily have had 3 last week. He also leads which is vital to making space for the others.

Bring JVR in to play with him, and combined they’ll have Andrews dropping his head as he is wont to do when getting beat.. 

Schache can’t be picked ahead of either BBB, JVR, TMac in a moon boot, Joel Smith etc etc, he’s not AFL standard

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14 minutes ago, Sydee said:

I'm really concerned if they persist with bombing long into F50 Andrews will have a field day and set up attacks repeatedly.

BB has not shown any ability to take contested marks, nor has he demonstrated any real ability to chase or tackle effectively when the ball is in dispute or in the opposition's possession. I know some people will not agree but personally I think we'd be better served playing JVR or even Schache over BB atm.

 

BBB leads to the right areas that will push and pull Andrews and make him commit to go or allow easy spot ups. But we have to use the right option. And we have to move it quickly. 

The longer we take and the more we dump it in, the more we play into the strengths of the opposition and not BBB.

It has been an overemphasis on helping our defence in the past - but now I can see us trying to get it going but it sputters unless you constantly reinforce it and not dwell on the errors and the clangers. 

Take Angus for example - some on here want him traded for his misuse but he is one of the few that will take on the corridor and when he doesn’t hit it - it stands out - because the rest are just kicking it sideways and abdicating the responsibility.

I think Friday night is a great opportunity to test our quick movement forward and marrying that with our press to see how we balance the two best.

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Does JVR and/or Chandler come back in?

Can JJ get his hands on enough ball?

Will Kozz go into the middle?

Will we attack more freely this week?

Brisbane have no doubt set themselves for this game as I think Adelaide have for next week. We really only need to win one of these but I reckon the team wants them both so should be a great couple of weeks. 

[demon3165 2,569]

54 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

His attack on the contest has been off since round 1 and the one thing he has been bringing is forward pressure. I’m not sure why we’d suddenly take away the one thing he does well and ask him to do more of the thing he hasn’t been doing (winning contested ball).

We also can’t afford to weaken our forward pressure with BBB, 2 rucks and no Chandler. 

He is not a midfielder full stop but tell my you think he is just interested. 

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9 minutes ago, rpfc said:

BBB leads to the right areas that will push and pull Andrews and make him commit to go or allow easy spot ups. But we have to use the right option. And we have to move it quickly. 

The longer we take and the more we dump it in, the more we play into the strengths of the opposition and not BBB.

It has been an overemphasis on helping our defence in the past - but now I can see us trying to get it going but it sputters unless you constantly reinforce it and not dwell on the errors and the clangers. 

Take Angus for example - some on here want him traded for his misuse but he is one of the few that will take on the corridor and when he doesn’t hit it - it stands out - because the rest are just kicking it sideways and abdicating the responsibility.

I think Friday night is a great opportunity to test our quick movement forward and marrying that with our press to see how we balance the two best.

Well said. Agree with all. 

With BBB in, I'd have Gawn/Grundy out of the F50. Only 1 is required to bring the ball to ground and more than 1 becomes a liability once it has been. 

Would like to see Chandler (early season version) and JVR back but don't think it will be this week. 

[Sydee 4,184]

25 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

BBB isn’t there to chase or tackle, and he’s no contested marking beast. But he had 1 goal last week, had a free 25m out that Sparrow kicked under advantage and hit the post so could easily have had 3 last week. He also leads which is vital to making space for the others.

Bring JVR in to play with him, and combined they’ll have Andrews dropping his head as he is wont to do when getting beat.. 

Schache can’t be picked ahead of either BBB, JVR, TMac in a moon boot, Joel Smith etc etc, he’s not AFL standard

Ok - didn't realise our KPI's for a full forward were that low - I hope I'm wrong we shall see. 

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9 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ok - didn't realise our KPI's for a full forward were that low - I hope I'm wrong we shall see. 

Whatever you think of Brown, you might be interested to know that his 2023 season averages in most metrics are higher than Schache's career averages (disposals, marks, goals, score involvements).

Ben Brown and Josh Schache AFL Stats Comparison (footywire.com)

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Whatever anyone’s interest in Brown and Schache, I’d swap both for a mid 20’s angry, leading forward who likes to hit packs and kick goals.