POSTGAME: Rd 17 vs St Kilda

[kev martin 9,215]

5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Sorry Kev, I missed this at the ground? Petty was subbed out with concussion protocols? 

Not sure about concussion. He coped a hit in the 4th just in front of me. Appeared a bit groggy and the trainers were slow to get out to him. Hope the sub was more about precaution. 

Anyone watching at home know more about it?

Edited July 8, 2023 by kev martin

[Binmans PA 26,235]

1 hour ago, GCDee said:

Geese that win felt a lot like a loss. 

Thank god for May and Trac. 
 

Grundy and Gawn need to take a long hard look at them selves letting Marshall completely dominate that game. 

time for Kozz to head to Casey

Dreadful post, but good on you for your opinion.

[Demon Jack 6,325]

Another well timed reminder for St Kilda that they took Paddy McCartin ahead of Christian Petracca at #1 at the 2014 draft.

Cheers Sainters.

[Binmans PA 26,235]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Wasn't pretty but a win is a win is a win.

Yes and no. Tonight we got some of our slingshot ball movement going again that's been missing since Round 10.

Coast to coast goals have been rare in the last 6 weeks, but we got a few of them tonight.

[deejammin' 2,066]

We are now 3-2 against the fellow top 6 teams. Beat Brisbane next week and we will have beaten all except Port, who we lost to by 4 points, in Adelaide, in a storm. We’re not in great form, many of our best are well down and yet we’re a game plus percentage inside top 4. If we can get it to click against Brisbane next week we could lock away top 4.
I’m backing in Gawn, Grundy, Pickett, Lever to bounce back after sub standard games for them. Hoping JVR kicks ten in the VFL tomorrow and replaces a small in the forward line. Hope Petty’s ok.

The negativity around here is a bit over the top, yes, we’re not playing like a premiership team, but it’s July, just bank wins. Oliver, Fritsch back for finals, find some form who knows what happens. We used to lose our game after NT every year, we managed to win the last quarter by a goal coming back from a slog in the rain this year. I’m betting if Taj and Brown kick straight in that last quarter to kill the game and give us an easy 6 goal win there’d be a lot less anger in here. It’s understandable MFCSS after our last five weeks but we weren’t losing that game.

Edited July 8, 2023 by deejammin'

[WalkingCivilWar 32,345]

6 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Obviously  Melbourne players would never bother reading this ' know all' garbage on DL. 

Go dees great defence  ,kick straight Fwd players !!!  You win. Forget the the BBQ lads.

Family members of some players do, though. They must have a strong constitution. Like, Incredible Hulk level of strong. 

[Jjrogan 1,217]

I don't get the backlash against the backlash.   If you are going to be pumping up our performance last week based on a lopsided expected score and saying we are playing ok footy (my own hand up), we lost the expected score this week with 2 extra players and 5 of their best 15 out.     Our kicking for goal and steven may won us that game.  We were beaten in many areas and first time in a month, felt we really missed Oliver around the stoppages.  All relatively moot. I suspect with where the ladder is now it's 3rd or 4th for us regardless what happens from here.  

[Clayton spirit 174]

7 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

I don't get the backlash against the backlash.   If you are going to be pumping up our performance last week based on a lopsided expected score and saying we are playing ok footy (my own hand up), we lost the expected score this week with 2 extra players and 5 of their best 15 out.     Our kicking for goal and steven may won us that game.  We were beaten in many areas and first time in a month, felt we really missed Oliver around the stoppages.  All relatively moot. I suspect with where the ladder is now it's 3rd or 4th for us regardless what happens from here.  

Our kicking for goal improved, and our forward structure as a whole improved. I don't get how expected score is relevant here to how we rate the performance. Saints were a lot better than the Giants were

[WalkingCivilWar 32,345]

22 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Riiiggggggghhhhhhhhhhtttttttt?

Theres a lot of ‘from my couch the players look lazy’ going on.

The stuff you don’t see on TV because the cameras aren’t pointed  that way can be just as important as the stuff you do see.

[Deemania since 56 6,173]

33 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Change plans and make him the main ruckman, with plenty of game time and Grundy coming off the bench..

Max is one of those players who can play himself into form. Grundy ain't. Grundy to the bench, I agree - my impression was not a tandem ruck outfit when Grundy was recruited, it was to give Max the Miraculous a moment of rest, recuperation for effort - and a moment's peace from smacks to the head, neck, groin, knee drops and arm holding violations in the rucking duties. Grundy has heaps of interrupting umpires' decisions against him, as well. Max has few and receives none from the many infringements against him in field play. 

[Gawndy the Great 7,503]

One of Tracs goals was as a beautiful rove in the F50. Get that clip and put on loop and lock Kozzy in the room with his eyes held open. 

He is caught out of position so many times it’s really concerning. He looks flat and his body language epitomises someone who knows they are significantly off the pace.

He needs to be dropped for his own good to get some form in the 2s where he will slice them up. 

 

[deejammin' 2,066]

24 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Not sure about concussion. He coped a hit in the 4th just in front of me. Appeared a bit groggy and the trainers were slow to get out to him. Hope the sub was more about precaution. 

Anyone watching at home know more about it?

According to Goody in the presser copped a knock to the ribs in the 1st that got worse as the game went on and as he wasn’t covering the ground well they subbed him. Says they’re very confident he’ll be right for next week, given Goody’s record with Clayton we’ll see him next year then 😈😈

[The heart beats true 16,249]

13 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Family members of some players do, though. They must have a strong constitution. Like, Incredible Hulk level of strong. 

I was sitting on the opposite side of the race from the DA tonight. Clarry stood in the race in the last quarter, and some loser near me started yelling out about buying drugs from him.

I went directly to the security and got him kicked out. I thought of @Clintosaurus straight away, because I feel like this really proves why I don’t get invited to parties! 🥳🤣

The way some people treat public figures is a disgrace. I’d never want someone in my family to have to endure the garbage they have to tolerate.

[Gawndy the Great 7,503]

26 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Not sure about concussion. He coped a hit in the 4th just in front of me. Appeared a bit groggy and the trainers were slow to get out to him. Hope the sub was more about precaution. 

Anyone watching at home know more about it?

They were concerned about a rib injury. 

[Jaded No More 58,253]

3 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I was sitting on the opposite side of the race from the DA tonight. Clarry stood in the race in the last quarter, and some loser near me started yelling out about buying drugs from him.

I went directly to the security and got him kicked out. I thought of @Clintosaurus straight away, because I feel like this really proves why I don’t get invited to parties! 🥳🤣

The way some people treat public figures is a disgrace. I’d never want someone in my family to have to endure the garbage they have to tolerate.

Good for you! 
People really are pathetic. 
I would have preferred all the absolute drunk morons in our area to have stayed home. They really ruined the game for me. 

[The heart beats true 16,249]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Good for you! 
People really are pathetic. 
I would have preferred all the absolute drunk morons in our area to have stayed home. They really ruined the game for me. 

Why is it so easy to hear so much happening around you at that stadium, yet the whole place has no collective atmosphere? It’s bizarre.

[Jaded No More 58,253]

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

Why is it so easy to hear so much happening around you at that stadium, yet the whole place has no collective atmosphere? It’s bizarre.

It’s the concrete and the roof. The acoustics are super good for music concerts if you’re ever been to one there. Sadly as a footy ground it is absolutely putrid. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 2,930]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Well I had an extra reason to celebrate tonight… Reece Conca said I can have his job!

🥳😝🙃😁

 

WCW, I noticed a new flag in the DA tonight. One with a big demon face logo on it. Is that an official club emblem tht they are working on announcing? I hadn’t seen it before tonight. Anyway, looked good. Credit to the DA who packed their end of the goals, unlike the Saints! 

[John Crow Batty 8,261]

2 hours ago, Phil C said:

I’m overseas so Kayo won’t play ball. The game day thread sounded like we lost by 10 goals. Apparently we won according to the AFL app! Jeez the negativity on here is epic. 

Currently in a Langkawi. Signed for a month subscription with WatchAFL and watched tonight’s game. Works very well and great image quality.

[Macca 16,173]

Will we play Petracca forward again next Friday?

Brayshaw at the stoppages was very good (dropped back behind the play after each stoppage)

The forced change ended up being beneficial to both players as Petracca seemed to enjoy himself scoring 4 goals

When Oliver returns we may take the new roles into the finals

Edited July 8, 2023 by Macca

[picket fence 15,285]

2 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

Anybody looking forward to Brisbane next week?

At the G ....YES !! But at Gabba er No!

[Travy14 1,508]

Good to tough out that win.  

But

We have a lot to tidy up, our skills are very average, dropped marks, missed handballs and poor kicking.  I don't rate St Kilda at all but they put the pressure on tonight.

Brown has to stay in, he just opens up the forward line well, id like to see JVR in there with him.  Kossie is an issue atm, and only the fact that Spargo and Chandler are also struggling is the reason he is still in the side.  

We are really missing Clarry, but Brayshaw back in the middle is his best position and hopefully we see similar to what he did in the back end of last yr.

Looking forward to heading to the G on Fri, we will see where we are against a good team this week.

[picket fence 15,285]

2 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Yep drop kozzie 

Gees Kossy is really testing selectors patience.... He gets ONE more game. I would bring in JVR for...... Spargo. If anyone else rips it apart tommorow maybe just 1 other change!! Smith stays as Sub!

[picket fence 15,285]

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Well I had an extra reason to celebrate tonight… Reece Conca said I can have his job!

🥳😝🙃😁

 

WCW I, and others would pay a Kings Ransome to see you running around relaying messages! You might well be like this guy...

[Macca 16,173]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Gees Kossy is really testing selectors patience.... He gets ONE more game. I would bring in JVR for...... Spargo. If anyone else rips it apart tommorow maybe just 1 other change!! Smith stays as Sub!

I reckon JVR playing at CHF tonight would have been ideal. Playing on a dry surface with a licence to get up the ground whenever applicable

We missed an opportunity to tune him up for the Lions encounter

Kozzie stays in despite an average performance tonight ... upside keeps him in but I can understand it if he is given a spell

Trouble is that it's Brisbane next.  We need to present our best possible side

And we have to win the encounter if not just for the confidence it can give the group

So JVR in at CHF with Melksham to play a Fritsch-type role.  Brown out of the goal square

However, if we stay with Petracca forward (periodically) then we might go with the same set-up ... I'd find a spot for JVR regardless

And the 3 smalls need to hit the scoreboard ... only 1 scoring shot between the 3 tonight was unacceptable

Edited July 8, 2023 by Macca