PREGAME: Rd 12 vs Carlton

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Agree.

I think one of Tomlinson or T Mac has to play as a defender to help support May and Lever. 

Lever had an awful game statistically with just 2 marks, well down from his typical 5-6 marks a game, while May only got 8 possessions which is simply unheard of. The only games for Melbourne where he's gotten single digit possessions were games where he went off injured.

I get that Tommo plays more bad games than good post his ACL but I think our defensive structure needs to be looked at.

 

Kick ins from behinds scored by the opposition count as disposals, don't they? In which case, May's 8 possessions may include some of these statistical gifts. 

[BangBnagBang 583]

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Kick ins from behinds scored by the opposition count as disposals, don't they? In which case, May's 8 possessions may include some of these statistical gifts. 

Only if you step outside the goal square, which is almost all the time

[Mickey 4,469]

56 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Of course they are ...

Paging @Jaded No More

To be honest, they really need to. Likely Hewitt, Newman and probably Cripps out. With Cerra out their midfield is non-existant

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

20 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

Only if you step outside the goal square, which is almost all the time

Thanks, BBB.

By the way, I'm curious about your name. Is it deliberate or is the "Bnag" a typo?

[leave it to deever 17,451]

Hopefully we bounce back after two losses. Our fwd line worries me still. Need to change something.  I'd drop Tmac for any of the talls in reserve. Jvr is bound to start marking a few from those leaps/ crashes.

I keep waiting for our small brigade to cause mayhem. Is this the round?

We will rally and put us back in the winning column. Just can't afford to drop another game. Simple.

[TRIGON 4,768]

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

it's inevitable that cerra will get off

and the instability will surely see them have a backs-to-the-walls win 

I'm sorry, NO.

If the AFL let that go then its mass-confusion to the power of a billion.

Edited May 29, 2023 by TRIGON

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,644]

9 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

I'm sorry, NO.

If they AFL let that go then its mass-confusion to the power of a billion.

I think you'll find that's the AFL Rules Department's Mission Statement

[TRIGON 4,768]

21 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think you'll find that's the AFL Rules Department's Mission Statement

@La Dee-vina Comedia I liken your comment to the TV show Utopia - I don't know whether to laugh because it's so accurate or cry because it's so accurate.

[Dingo 1,014]

I regularly speak to another Dees supporter at our games , who has to accompany his wife to watch some Carlton games.As she is a Blues supporter, and for some reason drags him along! He says,

based on what he seen this year , we should beat them easily.

[DubDee 24,356]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Kick ins from behinds scored by the opposition count as disposals, don't they? In which case, May's 8 possessions may include some of these statistical gifts. 

I thought May defended pretty well and worked back into some form  (not implying you think otherwise)

[Roost it far 7,401]

If we play like we have the last 2 weeks and Carlton does as well, we win by 8 goals

[Jaded No More 67,643]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Of course they are ...

Paging @Jaded No More

I told you already, he will not miss even a second of football. The best lawyers in town are suiting up to ensure that not only does he get off, the AFL pays Carlton damages for emotional distress caused. 

[Devil In Disguise 2,258]

Sparrow should be filthy if Cerra gets off. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,114]

They'll lodge a supreme court injunction if the charge gets upheld. 

[Mel Bourne 4,389]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Surprised people are just catching on to this?

Why do you think he's always attempting don't argues and gets pinged straight away and then it kills momentum. The dude is a wannabe Dusty.

His sole role in the team should be a tagger first and foremost or nothing else. Goodwin has now shown he's not willing to run a tagger in the team anymore which means Harmes has no place in the side and simply should not be playing because he doesn't add much either way.

Found myself screaming “YOU’RE NOT THAT GUY” at Harmes on too many occasions last Saturday 

[Jaded No More 67,643]

It still annoys me that we brought Harmes straight back in from the VFL after he struggled to make the side, and poor JJ was again relegated to the sub role.

What on earth does JJ have to do to get a full game, and what will we learn about Harmes as a player that we don't already know?

I think that in the absence of Oliver, possibly one of the greatest ever mids who will never be replaced, we should take the opportunity to explore different options. JJ, Laurie, Rivers, Kosi, Woewodin.... these are the guys I want to see get midfield opportunities. I know what I am getting from Harmes. It is neither great nor terrible, but if you can't replace Oliver anyway, you may as well try to unearth something new in his absence. 

And if you play Harmes, why are you playing Viney in a negating role, when Harmes has shown time and time again how good he is at tagging?! 

If he stays in this week, and Cripps gets up, I want him to wear Cripps like a glove. 

[dazzledavey36 52,751]

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It still annoys me that we brought Harmes straight back in from the VFL after he struggled to make the side, and poor JJ was again relegated to the sub role.

What on earth does JJ have to do to get a full game, and what will we learn about Harmes as a player that we don't already know?

I think that in the absence of Oliver, possibly one of the greatest ever mids who will never be replaced, we should take the opportunity to explore different options. JJ, Laurie, Rivers, Kosi, Woewodin.... these are the guys I want to see get midfield opportunities. I know what I am getting from Harmes. It is neither great nor terrible, but if you can't replace Oliver anyway, you may as well try to unearth something new in his absence. 

And if you play Harmes, why are you playing Viney in a negating role, when Harmes has shown time and time again how good he is at tagging?! 

If he stays in this week, and Cripps gets up, I want him to wear Cripps like a glove. 

I 2nd this.

Harmes should only be brought in purely if we want a hard tag on someone which we barely do now days. If that's the case, then he stays at Casey. I thought initially they would have brought Harmes in for Sparrow to play to do a job on Butters but wasn't the case.

Selection are just as confusing as last year.

[praha 11,120]

On 5/27/2023 at 5:18 PM, JimmyGadson said:

Pressure Melbourne and watch them fall apart. 

Good thing we're playing Carlton then.

[Deemania since 56 6,550]

On 5/27/2023 at 6:10 PM, Pipefitter said:

For the love of god bring Ben Brown in. Yes he’s terrible when the ball goes to ground but so is the rest of our list. Need a target. 

YEP! We need a target ..... who leads out to space (and teammates who support such initiatives).

[Deemania since 56 6,550]

14 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

and poor JJ was again relegated to the sub role.

What on earth does JJ have to do to get a full game,

JJ in. Harmes to tag (perhaps, Cripps) - someone who is potentially prolific. 

[DubDee 24,356]

Cerra playing or not will have little bearing on the result

[DubDee 24,356]

16 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It still annoys me that we brought Harmes straight back in from the VFL after he struggled to make the side, and poor JJ was again relegated to the sub role.

What on earth does JJ have to do to get a full game, and what will we learn about Harmes as a player that we don't already know?

I think that in the absence of Oliver, possibly one of the greatest ever mids who will never be replaced, we should take the opportunity to explore different options. JJ, Laurie, Rivers, Kosi, Woewodin.... these are the guys I want to see get midfield opportunities. I know what I am getting from Harmes. It is neither great nor terrible, but if you can't replace Oliver anyway, you may as well try to unearth something new in his absence. 

And if you play Harmes, why are you playing Viney in a negating role, when Harmes has shown time and time again how good he is at tagging?! 

If he stays in this week, and Cripps gets up, I want him to wear Cripps like a glove. 

i can only guess we wanted someone that can hit the scoreboard more than JJ. Harmes had 3 shots, skimmed the post and missed a sitter. on another day he would have had 3 goals  Harmes is a tease as he plays the odd great game

having said that i agree with your post

[BangBnagBang 583]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Thanks, BBB.

By the way, I'm curious about your name. Is it deliberate or is the "Bnag" a typo?

It was a typo I just left after the fact

[DubDee 24,356]

great, the Blues heading into crisis with a board member quitting. Voss will under the pump all week

fasten your pyjama cord. it’s gonna be a stressful friday night

[Jaded No More 67,643]

9 minutes ago, DubDee said:

i can only guess we wanted someone that can hit the scoreboard more than JJ. Harmes had 3 shots, skimmed the post and missed a sitter. on another day he would have had 3 goals  Harmes is a tease as he plays the odd great game

having said that i agree with your post

We could have played JJ for a whole game and let Sparrow push forward more. He’s a far better and more reliable goal scorer these days than Harmes. 
I think ultimately we wanted to replace the experienced mature body of Clarry with another experienced mature big bodied player. If Dunstan was fit I reckon we would have played him ahead of Harmes.