Trade Rumours 2023

[BaliDemon 401]

4 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

I wouldn't be taking any notice of Whately thinks.

Why? 

The guy is as smart if not smarter than anyone in the room when it comes to football analysis. 

[MoeSyzlak 669]

5 hours ago, Wells 11 said:

The dude is perennially injured. Glad we're not in the mix of clubs needing a big backman. 

How he is work pick 3 is beyond me. 
 

He’s pretty good mark but never even had 20 touches in a game. Not once in 6 seasons.  Barely gets on the park as well. 

[Demongirl35 1,053]

 

11 minutes ago, Ferghus31 said:

Just Heard on Perth Radio Bulldogs and West Coast Desperate for our early picks if we could lure  Aaron Naughton  and Liam Ryan  imagine them with Pickett and Mc Adam boy some powerful forward line

 

Was thinking this the other day…

Liam Ryan would be a good get 

[BaliDemon 401]

4 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Melbourne couldha had Kelly...

Roos opted for Dom Tyson and Salem instead

We move on

Dom Tyson helped hold the midfield fort for a few seasons while we were battling and Salem’s had a pretty damn good 11 season career. Premiership player and permanent fixture of our very good back six. Yes his past two seasons haven’t been quite as stellar but I’m okay with that deal. 

Kelly is a very good player but he was touted as destined to be a ‘top ten player in the comp’ at one stage and ‘future Brownlow medallist’. He has never reached those heights. Just the one All Australian blazer and finished 5th in the Brownlow once, back in 2017. That’s good but not in the game’s elite. 

[ChaserJ 5,096]

1 hour ago, Ferghus31 said:

Just Heard on Perth Radio Bulldogs and West Coast Desperate for our early picks if we could lure  Aaron Naughton  and Liam Ryan  imagine them with Pickett and Mc Adam boy some powerful forward line

 

How desperate are West Coast?

Was an inference that Hawks were into Naughton on Whately from a listener and a separate inference that Dees were confident of landing a big fish FF.

Some chat (listener speculation) that Spargo was interested in either Roos or Hawks.

We could have picks and cap space galore.

Edited September 21, 2023 by ChaserJ

[whatwhat say what 22,762]

Spargo to hawks according to sen

 hope not

[ChaserJ 5,096]

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

Spargo to hawks according to sen

 hope not

I like Charlie, and probably prefer to keep. Hawks have a 2nd rounder which will get swallowed up in matching a bid for McCabe. Spargo’s going rate is roughly a 2nd rd pick, Kanga’s have nothing in that space as it stands.

[Lord Travis 10,730]

27 minutes ago, MoeSyzlak said:

How he is work pick 3 is beyond me. 
 

He’s pretty good mark but never even had 20 touches in a game. Not once in 6 seasons.  Barely gets on the park as well. 

8 seasons. Drafted end of 2015. Makes it even more damning that a player has only just made it to 70 games after 8 seasons on a list as he’s constantly injured. He’s also below average when he does get on the park, and at one stage mid year had lost more one on one contests than any other defender in the league. He’s not athletically gifted either. He’s worth a third rounder. He’s basically a less durable and worse version of Tomlinson. It’s mind blowing he could get them first round compo or that any team is willing to pay him more than 200-300k. 

[Sydee 4,442]

11 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Spargo to hawks according to sen

 hope not

So we get rid of the only bloke that consistently hits targets inside 50 - our biggest weakness

Strange if true 

[SthSea22 618]

Just now, Sydee said:

So we get rid of the only bloke that consistently hits targets inside 50 - our biggest weakness

Strange if true 

How many targets he hit during Finals? 

[BaliDemon 401]

16 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Spargo to hawks according to sen

 hope not

Got no issue with this. Seven seasons in Spargs is still going at 10 touches and 0.5 goals a game. Not good enough for a small forward. He can use it but doesn’t find it often enough.

Fresh start elsewhere might do him good. 

[adonski 12,153]

SparGod would thrive at a side that played a bit smarter 

[SthSea22 618]

16 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

8 seasons. Drafted end of 2015. Makes it even more damning that a player has only just made it to 70 games after 8 seasons on a list as he’s constantly injured. He’s also below average when he does get on the park, and at one stage mid year had lost more one on one contests than any other defender in the league. He’s not athletically gifted either. He’s worth a third rounder. He’s basically a less durable and worse version of Tomlinson. It’s mind blowing he could get them first round compo or that any team is willing to pay him more than 200-300k. 

Let's hope he lands at Essendon LOL

[BaliDemon 401]

5 minutes ago, adonski said:

SparGod would thrive at a side that played a bit smarter 

Or a side that needs low possession, low goal small forwards.

[adonski 12,153]

2 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

Or a side that needs low possession, low goal small forwards.

Simply give him the ball imo 

[Sydee 4,442]

19 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

How many targets he hit during Finals? 

Ok clearly you don't rate him

Against the Blues

He had more disposals and less game time than the following.

McVee
Fritta
Bowey
Jordon
Smith
Chandler
TMac

He chases hard, can tackle and when he gets the ball he is creative and does hit targets consistently. If you don't think that's correct, I'd suggest you don't watch too many games.

I'd be sending Chandler packing well before Spargo - Chandler did SFA during that game and the same can be said of Jordon. You find out a lot about individual players when it really matters (finals) 

 

[samcantstandya 1,055]

2 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ok clearly you don't rate him

Against the Blues

He had more disposals and less game time than the following.

McVee
Fritta
Bowey
Jordon
Smith
Chandler
TMac

He chases hard, can tackle and when he gets the ball he is creative and does hit targets consistently. If you don't think that's correct, I'd suggest you don't watch too many games.

I'd be sending Chandler packing well before Spargo - Chandler did SFA during that game and the same can be said of Jordon. You find out a lot about individual players when it really matters (finals) 

 

I agree 100%. Spargo has high footy !Q. I was so disappointed with Chandler. If it's a choice between the two, Charlie wins by a country mile.

[SthSea22 618]

11 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ok clearly you don't rate him

Against the Blues

He had more disposals and less game time than the following.

McVee
Fritta
Bowey
Jordon
Smith
Chandler
TMac

He chases hard, can tackle and when he gets the ball he is creative and does hit targets consistently. If you don't think that's correct, I'd suggest you don't watch too many games.

I'd be sending Chandler packing well before Spargo - Chandler did SFA during that game and the same can be said of Jordon. You find out a lot about individual players when it really matters (finals) 

 

Spargo and Chandler off us the same thing 

Spargo is smart enough to understand this which is why he is looking elsewhere 

[Ouch! 2,263]

15 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ok clearly you don't rate him

Against the Blues

He had more disposals and less game time than the following.

McVee
Fritta
Bowey
Jordon
Smith
Chandler
TMac

He chases hard, can tackle and when he gets the ball he is creative and does hit targets consistently. If you don't think that's correct, I'd suggest you don't watch too many games.

I'd be sending Chandler packing well before Spargo - Chandler did SFA during that game and the same can be said of Jordon. You find out a lot about individual players when it really matters (finals) 

 

I think the biggest issue with Spargo is that he can barely kick 30 meters. So he hits targets up well inside 50, he does chase and tackle as you say, but he can't be the final link in the chain and convert. ANB and Kozzy do all of the bits you are saying Spargo can do, and they can be the final kick to score as well.  Chander can hit the scoreboard, but needs to work on his defensive craft considerably in the off season.
For what it's worth, in the final Spargo was probably close to our best player in the first quarter and a bit, I thought he faded out in the second half... far from our worst.

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Ouch!

[Ouch! 2,263]

11 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

I agree 100%. Spargo has high footy !Q. I was so disappointed with Chandler. If it's a choice between the two, Charlie wins by a country mile.

But they play different roles, Chandler plays more forward pocket and closer to goal and crumbs, and didn't get on the end of things nearly as well in the 2nd half of the season.  But was probably our best small forward in the first half of the season, and was very accurate.  Spargo plays a higher role on the HFF and looks like he's there to connect up with the forwards.  But he can't score... It's a role more like Gryan Miers.  
 

[John Demonic 5,796]

52 minutes ago, Sydee said:

So we get rid of the only bloke that consistently hits targets inside 50 - our biggest weakness

Strange if true 

Maybe it's him looking for more opportunities after a 10 game season? If he doesn't want to fight for his spot, or wants a bigger pay packet, then good luck to him. It would be a shame to go, but adding to our draft haul with another pick, and beating the Dogs to that GCS pick would be a higher priority than keeping him, if given the two options

Edited September 21, 2023 by John Demonic

[Nascent 9,214]

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

How desperate are West Coast?

Was an inference that Hawks were into Naughton on Whately from a listener and a separate inference that Dees were confident of landing a big fish FF.

Some chat (listener speculation) that Spargo was interested in either Roos or Hawks.

We could have picks and cap space galore.

Oscar Allen?

[BaliDemon 401]

24 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

I agree 100%. Spargo has high footy !Q. I was so disappointed with Chandler. If it's a choice between the two, Charlie wins by a country mile.

We might have to consider the possibility that both aren’t good enough. 

[samcantstandya 1,055]

2 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

We might have to consider the possibility that both aren’t good enough. 

Yep, but they're both contracted so we'd keep both unless we get offered a good deal. My preference is to keep Spargo of the two.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

1 hour ago, BaliDemon said:

Dom Tyson helped hold the midfield fort for a few seasons while we were battling and Salem’s had a pretty damn good 11 season career. Premiership player and permanent fixture of our very good back six. Yes his past two seasons haven’t been quite as stellar but I’m okay with that deal. 

Kelly is a very good player but he was touted as destined to be a ‘top ten player in the comp’ at one stage and ‘future Brownlow medallist’. He has never reached those heights. Just the one All Australian blazer and finished 5th in the Brownlow once, back in 2017. That’s good but not in the game’s elite. 

Totally agree

I was merely pointing out what unfolded 

Tyson had some very good years, but Salem needs a rest. Poor bugger is cooked