44 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Hawks are expert tankers with a demeanour of ‘how dare you say we do what we are doing’…

ND4 the best outcome for us. Which is great.

I think Hawks will beat them, without Breust and CJ.

I hope they tank when they play us…., but I doubt it.

Lewis back and a lot of talent at Box Hill. I think they’ll be hard to beat next week.

 

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I think Hawks will beat them, without Breust and CJ.

I hope you are correct Red but Breust out leaves a bloody big hole in their ability to kick a winning score.

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I hope you are correct Red but Breust out leaves a bloody big hole in their ability to kick a winning score.

Yes he does, but if they bring in that bloke McDonald, I think it was, who had 100 possessions against Casey, the ball will live in their forward line.

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Hawks knew they were in with a chance, FMD

 

 

Managed?

Right, because it is vital their players are in optimal shape come finals time.

58 minutes ago, rjay said:

Breust you could understand, but Jiath is a kid.

 

I actually think the opposite. Jiath is a kid with a bright future ahead. I understand if he's sore and they don't want to push him and cause a stress injury.

But Breust? what are you resting him for, September? FFS he is one of the few leaders they have left. Surely they want him on the field as much as possible. 

Ridiculous. 

Having watched both these teams in every game....Really actually think Hawks have a better system/mids in form and have been better in their games for longer.   

Fremantle "have" to win this one, not sure they can with their coach and players not on the same page...their plan is all over the shop and JL is not inspiring them, they seem flat at start of every game.   Hawks by 5 goals.

1 minute ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Having watched both these teams in every game....Really actually think Hawks have a better system/mids in form and have been better in their games for longer.   

Fremantle "have" to win this one, not sure they can with their coach and players not on the same page...their plan is all over the shop and JL is not inspiring them, they seem flat at start of every game.   Hawks by 5 goals.

A big advantage the hawks have in this game is they are under little pressure. So can play freely.

Freo players and coaching staff on the other hand are under massive pressure. Imagine if the lose this? Docker fans will lose their collective minds.

And as you say their game plan is all over the shop and the players look confused.

I think they will win still, but all those factors mean a loss won't surprise.

28 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yes he does, but if they bring in that bloke McDonald, I think it was, who had 100 possessions against Casey, the ball will live in their forward line.

.... or maybe they'll play Frosty up forward.

That would create some chaos - for both teams!

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Managing players at round 8 when you are slop? Breust needs managing? For what... Finals?

I bet nobody at AFL house will even blink an eye about this very obvious case of tanking. That only happens to Melbourne.

Freo by 10 goals. 

The AFL is well aware of their tactics. 

At the start of the year Caroline Wilson reported the AFL were filthy with Hawthorn for exiting all their experience last year.  To name a few:  O'Meara, Mitchell, McElvoy, Dunstan etc thousands of games experience.   She even mentioned that evil word: priority pick. She said no chance they will get one given their deliberate list decimation.

Not long after, one of the co-hosts of a Dunstall program mentioned that evil word.  He grinned.

It isn't just pick 1 they want, a priority pick is their end game, if not this year then next.

They have learnt nothing from the wasted years and culture destruction at the dees and blues 10 years ago from tanking. 

Regardless of what Hawks do we will still end up with pick 5-7 from Freo or if we are very lucky #4.  And whatever pick we get I'm confident we will get the player we want at the top of the draft. 

Edited May 4, 20232 yr by Lucifers Hero

14 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The AFL is well aware of their tactics. 

At the start of the year Caroline Wilson reported the AFL were filthy with Hawthorn for exiting all their experience last year.  To name a few:  O'Meara, Mitchell, McElvoy, Dunstan etc thousands of games experience.   She even mentioned that evil word: priority pick. She said no chance they will get one given their deliberate list decimation.

Not long after, one of the co-hosts of a Dunstall program mentioned that evil word.  He grinned.

It isn't just pick 1 they want, a priority pick is their end game, if not this year then next.

They have learnt nothing from the wasted years and culture destruction at the dees and blues 10 years ago from tanking. 

Regardless of what Hawks do we will still end up with pick 5-7 from Freo or if we are very lucky #4.  And whatever pick we get I'm confident we will get the player we want at the top of the draft. 

They are no chance of getting a priority pick. Not now, not next year and certainly not with the introduction of Tassie.

They won 4 flags not that long ago. If Norf and Carlton haven't got one, they are no chance either.

They are not even that bad for goodness sake. 

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

They are no chance of getting a priority pick. Not now, not next year and certainly not with the introduction of Tassie.

They won 4 flags not that long ago. If Norf and Carlton haven't got one, they are no chance either.

They are not even that bad for goodness sake. 

Norf did get two. But I agree, not Hawthorn.

9 minutes ago, old55 said:

Norf did get two. But I agree, not Hawthorn.

I mean since the last time they got them. They have literally gotten worse... 

28 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

They have learnt nothing from the wasted years and culture destruction at the dees and blues 10 years ago from tanking. 

Really surprises me why clubs go down the tanking path. Absolute culture killer. Best way to develop the youngsters is to keep senior players to guide them along. And try to win games. 

I really hope it all blows up in their faces.

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

Really surprises me why clubs go down the tanking path. Absolute culture killer. Best way to develop the youngsters is to keep senior players to guide them along. And try to win games. 

I really hope it all blows up in their faces.

It blew up in ours. It blew up in Carlton's. It's going to blow up in theirs.

When we gutted our list of senior players it destroyed the club for a decade. I am still not over the way we dumped Junior McDonald. We ruined the fabric of the club, and all we got in return was Scully and Trengove. Didn't that work out well... 

8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I mean since the last time they got them. They have literally gotten worse... 

Since last year?

North granted extra draft picks, list spots by the AFL - https://www.afl.com.au/news/847042

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I think Hawks will beat them, without Breust and CJ.

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Since last year?

North granted extra draft picks, list spots by the AFL - https://www.afl.com.au/news/847042

Well you could argue that they have gotten worse, their last 3 games were absolutely terrible, and in hindsight beating Freo (by 1 point) and West Coast is not exactly the feat we all thought it was... Hawks beat them and they want priority picks. Laughable. 

I heard somewhere that the average age of the playing group on Saturday night was older for North than it was for us! 🤪

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

But Breust? what are you resting him for?

It's all related to the Army, believe it or not.  This stems from his days at Parade College.

He wants to be Captain and be paid attention.  It sounds rank, but I've heard that he is feigning Private issues or General soreness (possibly from Corporal punishment).  However, I doubt that he is suffering from any Major injury.

3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

It's all related to the Army, believe it or not.  This stems from his days at Parade College.

He wants to be Captain and be paid attention.  It sounds rank, but I've heard that he is feigning Private issues or General soreness (possibly from Corporal punishment).  However, I doubt that he is suffering from any Major injury.

you forgot about the Left tenant at his investment house

24 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you forgot about the Left tenant at his investment house

there may be a Colonel of truth in what you hint at here.

38 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

It's all related to the Army, believe it or not.  This stems from his days at Parade College.

He wants to be Captain and be paid attention.  It sounds rank, but I've heard that he is feigning Private issues or General soreness (possibly from Corporal punishment).  However, I doubt that he is suffering from any Major injury.

He was an accomplished artist also. He kept drawing fire.

13 minutes ago, BDA said:

He was an accomplished artist also. He kept drawing fire.

Fortunately that went over most peoples heads.

I'll rifle through my archives for more of these puns.  Don't want to be a bullet a gate, though.

42 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I'll rifle through my archives for more of these puns.  Don't want to be a bullet a gate, though.

make sure you also rifle through your kit-bag. a man of your calibre should have checked there first.