Great courage from Josh Jenkins  and Eddie Betts to have unleashed such an extraordinary and harrowing story. A wonder how many others players that this camp has affected but are unable to tell their story and need help in addressing this period of their playing careers.   To me there seems to be a lot of  lip service about player welfare from the AFL and AFLPA, well now its their turn to be courageous to stand up and give this issue, the players and supporters the due consideration that it deserves. Look forward to seeing the response.

Edited August 5, 20223 yr by Optimus D

Brave stuff from Josh. Had no idea his story was quite so tough. The truth is out now.

1 hour ago, deeTRACted said:

This Jenkins interview is bloody damning. 
I wonder if all this stuff about Don Pyke is why Buddy is leaving

How is Don Pyke still working as a Coach within The AFL 4 years later??

Well that’s now corroborated, and it can’t now be compartmentalised as just the indigenous boys struggling with this, as some were intimating.

This was personal destruction of the marginalised, regardless of skin colour, although it would help if one was in the majority. Those with a mum, dad, and a ‘normal’ upbringing.

What a disgrace. 

Where is the Dr’s report? Where is the AFL investigation summary? Why is Riccuito still there?

Ricciuto was probably ruing that he didn't get to go on the camp too. A nice old fashioned hazing of the smaller and weaker. What's not to like?

The response of the AFL, ALPA, Eddie McGuire and Adelaide FC has been mealy-mouthed and it has been either disingenuous  or just plain stupid.

Ricciuto said "I think the club's been on record at times to say they acknowledge it wasn't handled perfectly, it had all good intentions but it didn't go perfectly.  We all love Eddie and hopefully Eddie's getting over that."

HRH Eddie and others spoke of Eddie moving on.

If they wish to "attack the ball" and fix the situation, they need first to explicitly say that they accept that each of  Eddie's statements is true. Then they need to state that they are not entitled to treat Eddie in that manner.  Roo's and the other supposed apologies do not do that.  Then he may be able move on.

Lamumba is in a similar situation.  All the Maggies will say is a general "mistakes have been made and we will do better".  Buckley said that recollections varied.  However, there has been sufficient corroboration by other players that Lamumba was called Chimp for example but no acknowledgement by the club. They obviously value their pride more than a person.

10 hours ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

The response of the AFL, ALPA, Eddie McGuire and Adelaide FC has been mealy-mouthed and it has been either disingenuous  or just plain stupid.

Ricciuto said "I think the club's been on record at times to say they acknowledge it wasn't handled perfectly, it had all good intentions but it didn't go perfectly.  We all love Eddie and hopefully Eddie's getting over that."

HRH Eddie and others spoke of Eddie moving on.

If they wish to "attack the ball" and fix the situation, they need first to explicitly say that they accept that each of  Eddie's statements is true. Then they need to state that they are not entitled to treat Eddie in that manner.  Roo's and the other supposed apologies do not do that.  Then he may be able move on.

Lamumba is in a similar situation.  All the Maggies will say is a general "mistakes have been made and we will do better".  Buckley said that recollections varied.  However, there has been sufficient corroboration by other players that Lamumba was called Chimp for example but no acknowledgement by the club. They obviously value their pride more than a person.

Still can't work out all the outrage.

Everyone knew it was a total disaster 3-4 years ago. Only some of the details are new.

Imagine if someone released unknown embarrassing details about the MFC merger & everyone got into a huff & started demanding enquiries & apologies.

I'm sure Eddies book has sold well.

30 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Imagine if someone released unknown embarrassing details about the MFC merger & everyone got into a huff & started demanding enquiries & apologies

And imagine if those who were responsible were still in charge.  Adelaide need to be scrubbed clean, which will not happen until Tex leaves.

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

Edited April 1, 20232 yr by radar

1 hour ago, radar said:

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

common practice in the 80's to tie the soon-to-be groom on a bucks night to a tree on nepean highway

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

common practice in the 80's to tie the soon-to-be groom on a bucks night to a tree on nepean highway

Yes I remember seeing that a few times!!!

2 hours ago, radar said:

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

Sellars ??? Wasn’t he an actor ?

There will be some serious blood on hands 

6 hours ago, radar said:

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

They would have had Mike Fitzpatrick on hand to write a thesis on how to untie them.

2 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

They would have had Mike Fitzpatrick on hand to write a thesis on how to untie them.

Dominator would have come and just kicked the tree down. 

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Dominator would have come and just kicked the tree down. 

percy jones would have tightened the knots up and laughed his head off

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

percy jones would have tightened the knots up and laughed his head off

Haha, over a beer as well!

Maclure, Jimmy and Perovic woulda got the bus and driven back to Princes Park

9 hours ago, radar said:

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

Buckley, Perovic & Sellars 

Who on earth was Sellars ???????

 

11 hours ago, radar said:

Heard David Glasscott on this;

”Can you imagine Carlton in the early 80s, Sellars, Jimmy Buckley, Val Perovic putting up with being tied to a tree?”

Glasscott would get his monkey to untie them (IYKYK). 

Edited April 1, 20232 yr by Ethan Tremblay

34 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Buckley, Perovic & Sellars 

Who on earth was Sellars ???????

 

Somehow that arrogant, ignorant,opinionated moron, Mark McClure has the nickname “Sellers”.

Not getting all the hagiography of these enemy club players. I wish "the Blues" had had a camp just like Adelaide's, with a similar outcome.

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Not getting all the hagiography of these enemy club players. I wish "the Blues" had had a camp just like Adelaide's, with a similar outcome.

Well, to an extent they did. Complete with draftee tied to a tree, and some never clarified events on a boat other Yarra, the 'Fevola era' of spiralling behaviour did as much damage to the club as the salary cap penalties. One example that comes to mind is that Luke Livingston really should have been a 200-game player, but didn't even reach 50 due to [reasons].

Any time I hear about these things I'm reminded of our own 'camp pushback' by the players, and that as a club we were able to resolve the argument maturely and to actually have player-coach relationships improve over the long term as a result. That process may even have been a crucial moment of building trust and commitment.