2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

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1 hour ago, Stiff Arm said:

No Kynan Brown or van Rooyen jnr on that list???

Obviously, not good enough.

[Binmans PA 26,301]

Gold Coast are going to be scary good in the next year or so. And they get to add two more top 5 picks for free and another top 20 - if that list is anything to go by...

[Freddy Fuschia 666]

On 6/12/2023 at 10:27 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

Big footy’s Davo-27’s June Top 40

2. Jed Walter - Gold Coast A - 195cm 91kg (GCSA)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
5. Jake Rogers - Gold Coast A - 172cm 67kg (GCSA)
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw FS)
18. Ethan Read - Gold Coast A - 200cm 90kg (GCSA)
20. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB FS)
22. Ryley Sanders - Sandringham(Tas) - 186cm 85kg
40. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg

I wonder how this year’s draft will evolve in view of the following anomalies -

• Five of the top 20 prospects are tied to clubs – three GCS academy players plus two father/sons Jordan Croft (Western Bulldogs) and Will McCabe (Hawthorn).

• Three players in the top 40 are Tasmanians and some recruiters might be reluctant to commit to them in light of the entry of the Tassie Devils in a few years’ time especially given that there are no rules about compensation (if any).

Is this really such a good year for the Demons to hold what we think is a strong draft hand?

[adonski 9,231]

Wonder if Dogs would forgo Croft if his stocks went up further

[Nascent 7,385]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Gold Coast are going to be scary good in the next year or so. And they get to add two more top 5 picks for free and another top 20 - if that list is anything to go by...

I believe their pre-listing days are over and will have to cough up draft capital to match bids for their players now. There's talk they may even pass on one of the three players, Rogers I think.

[Jeremy 632]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

I believe their pre-listing days are over and will have to cough up draft capital to match bids for their players now. There's talk they may even pass on one of the three players, Rogers I think.

Really? Where you hearing this? Rogers looks a gun 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

2 hours ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

I wonder how this year’s draft will evolve in view of the following anomalies -

• Five of the top 20 prospects are tied to clubs – three GCS academy players plus two father/sons Jordan Croft (Western Bulldogs) and Will McCabe (Hawthorn).

• Three players in the top 40 are Tasmanians and some recruiters might be reluctant to commit to them in light of the entry of the Tassie Devils in a few years’ time especially given that there are no rules about compensation (if any).

Is this really such a good year for the Demons to hold what we think is a strong draft hand?

It's a non-issue in my view. Outside of those Academy players and f/sons, there's a plethora of talent. And we have many avenues to make moves this year given our draft hand. It's incredible for a top four team. 

On the tassie players, if we were keen on McKercher for instance (gun), and decided to take him this year, consider it an investment if he eventually decided to leave for tassie once they come in. 

I don't think we could be better placed and depending on how those tassie boys are performing, it might end up being worth taking one of them. Best case is that they would fulfil their potential and be a demon for life. Worst case is they leave to play for Tassie having been in the system for a few years and we'd receive overs from a new club with an endless amount of draft picks in a heavily compromised draft year. 

I imagine some clubs will be thinking about this as a potential strategy given the way McKercher is tracking. 

[Nascent 7,385]

1 hour ago, Lewis said:

Really? Where you hearing this? Rogers looks a gun 

I remember reading it in an article, maybe one of the "gettable" ones on AFL website. Think it was pre-nationals and the VFL game which he starred in so the thinking could have changed. The question mark is how they will get the draft capital for Walter (top 5, maybe #2) Read and Rogers (both 1st rounders with Rogers possibly pushing quite high as well).

Having said that they can get creative by trading out futures an players and going into deficit so it's not impossible for them to get all three.

[Gawndy the Great 7,645]

12 hours ago, adonski said:

Wonder if Dogs would forgo Croft if his stocks went up further

Well if they do go for him, they are going to be overstocked on tall forwards. Maybe we can nab one of them in a trade or OOC. 

[whatwhat say what 19,313]

8 hours ago, Nascent said:

I remember reading it in an article, maybe one of the "gettable" ones on AFL website. Think it was pre-nationals and the VFL game which he starred in so the thinking could have changed. The question mark is how they will get the draft capital for Walter (top 5, maybe #2) Read and Rogers (both 1st rounders with Rogers possibly pushing quite high as well).

Having said that they can get creative by trading out futures an players and going into deficit so it's not impossible for them to get all three.

if they make finals they're only entitled to take two first round picks from their academy - walter is obviously the priority, wiht the giant ruckman likely to be picked ahead of the other simply due to the scarcity of ruckmen

footscray is going to be super tall if they add croft - funny thing is, it's midfielders they need; not sure why they never get talked up as a likely meth coke trade partner to try to move to pick 1

[Nascent 7,385]

12 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

if they make finals they're only entitled to take two first round picks from their academy - walter is obviously the priority, wiht the giant ruckman likely to be picked ahead of the other simply due to the scarcity of ruckmen

footscray is going to be super tall if they add croft - funny thing is, it's midfielders they need; not sure why they never get talked up as a likely meth coke trade partner to try to move to pick 1

Thanks, didn't know about this rule for the Suns.

[Binmans PA 26,301]

Was speaking to a Collingwood VFL player today who is good mates with Nick Watson. Reckons he'll be an absolute gun, despite being a messy user of the ball.

He also said Dursma will be the best player in this crop.

Take that with a grain of salt. Found it interesting as this bloke has grown up with both of them. 

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1 hour ago, A F said:

Was speaking to a Collingwood VFL player today who is good mates with Nick Watson. Reckons he'll be an absolute gun, despite being a messy user of the ball.

He also said Dursma will be the best player in this crop.

Take that with a grain of salt. Found it interesting as this bloke has grown up with both of them. 

Should also say, as I'm a coach in the junior school at Caulfield Grammar, Watson being at the school, I should get more info as this year unfolds.

[dee-tox 4,828]

On 6/13/2023 at 12:34 PM, A F said:

Gold Coast are going to be scary good in the next year or so. And they get to add two more top 5 picks for free and another top 20 - if that list is anything to go by...

Absolutely. Their list is talent-laden perhaps like no other. Add a key position defender, maybe someone to replace Witts and another goal sneak and they are there. May still be two years before being top four but for the first time it looks sustainable.

[Whispering_Jack 28,025]

On 6/13/2023 at 8:36 PM, Freddy Fuschia said:

I wonder how this year’s draft will evolve in view of the following anomalies -

• Five of the top 20 prospects are tied to clubs – three GCS academy players plus two father/sons Jordan Croft (Western Bulldogs) and Will McCabe (Hawthorn).

• Three players in the top 40 are Tasmanians and some recruiters might be reluctant to commit to them in light of the entry of the Tassie Devils in a few years’ time especially given that there are no rules about compensation (if any).

Is this really such a good year for the Demons to hold what we think is a strong draft hand?

An interesting article about some of Tassie’s young gun players in line for the forthcoming draft ~ Gun Tassie mids pose draft query

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,507]

10 hours ago, A F said:

Was speaking to a Collingwood VFL player today who is good mates with Nick Watson. Reckons he'll be an absolute gun, despite being a messy user of the ball.

He also said Dursma will be the best player in this crop.

Take that with a grain of salt. Found it interesting as this bloke has grown up with both of them. 

Disagree that Watson is a messy user of the ball. Then only issue with him that may see him slide down the draft order is his height. Would have him in a heartbeat. A star for Caulfield Grammar and doing it on the big stage for VIC Metro. He would put some serious pressure on Kossie.

[layzie 29,308]

9 hours ago, A F said:

Should also say, as I'm a coach in the junior school at Caulfield Grammar, Watson being at the school, I should get more info as this year unfolds.

Nice one mate, how long have you been coaching at CGS? 

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20 minutes ago, layzie said:

Nice one mate, how long have you been coaching at CGS? 

17 years. 👍

[Turner 1,483]

 

On 6/14/2023 at 9:17 AM, Gawndy the Great said:

Well if they do go for him, they are going to be overstocked on tall forwards. Maybe we can nab one of them in a trade or OOC. 

Probably one of Naughton or Darcy settles down back, given the merry-go-round that is Keath, Gardner, TOB, Bruce

leaves plenty of room for Jamarra, Lobb, +1 down forward, lobb and jones are also 30+ already too

7 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Absolutely. Their list is talent-laden perhaps like no other. Add a key position defender, maybe someone to replace Witts and another goal sneak and they are there. May still be two years before being top four but for the first time it looks sustainable.

one of their academy players Reid, is a ruckman plus they're massive on Moyle played twice earlier this year 100kgs at 21 he's only going to get stronger and craftier over the next 2 years and will be ready to take the mantle

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13 hours ago, A F said:

Should also say, as I'm a coach in the junior school at Caulfield Grammar, Watson being at the school, I should get more info as this year unfolds.

Malvern or Wheelers Hill Campus A F

[Binmans PA 26,301]

8 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Malvern or Wheelers Hill Campus A F

Wheelers. 

[layzie 29,308]

4 hours ago, A F said:

17 years. 👍

Fantastic! Would have seen some serious talent come through there. Did you go there yourself?

[Binmans PA 26,301]

21 minutes ago, layzie said:

Fantastic! Would have seen some serious talent come through there. Did you go there yourself?

Yeah, I did. But most of the really good kids were not in the junior school. They were scholarship kids brought in during Year 10-12. I did coach the middle and senior school in the first 6 or 7 years, now I much prefer Years 5-6.

[whatwhat say what 19,313]

53 minutes ago, A F said:

Yeah, I did. But most of the really good kids were not in the junior school. They were scholarship kids brought in during Year 10-12. I did coach the middle and senior school in the first 6 or 7 years, now I much prefer Years 5-6.

standard operating procedure in the aps system, isn't it?

[layzie 29,308]

35 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

standard operating procedure in the aps system, isn't it?

Sorry @A F I had to laugh, I was a Carey boy 🙂