On 20/11/2021 at 11:34, Fork 'em said:

I remember watching his draft highlight reel and he reminded me alot of Flower then.
Could take a big mark and skilled on the ground.
Helped that he's about the same height, skinny and wore #2 in the clip as well.
The club knew what they were doing when they flipped him #31. 
 

 

It can be bit old cliché - but as that vid shows, bailey is complete natural footballer.

Exhibit A - how he positions his body in marking contest

Exhibit B - how he times his movement toward the incoming ball to make sure he is in the best position to mark or collect the ball.

Exhibit C - he has beautiful hands

Exhibit D - he is not just technically a good kick, he also has the much too rare skill to weight the ball to a teammates' advantage 

Class players having time is another cliché, but bailey has that attribute - but the other thing that jumps out from that vid is how he refuses to be rushed with ball in hand.

All of those attributes have translated to the AFL.

Robbie is an excellent  comparison - and there ain't no higher praise.

This pre-GF comment from a Bulldog supporter on woof.net is typical of the lack of recognition Fritsch had:

"I just can’t see the Dees kicking a huge score against us. We will nullify Brown and McDonald. Fritsch will be found wanting."

Few will underestimate him now.

  On 23/11/2021 at 04:22, mauriesy said:

This pre-GF comment from a Bulldog supporter on woof.net is typical of the lack of recognition Fritsch had:

"I just can’t see the Dees kicking a huge score against us. We will nullify Brown and McDonald. Fritsch will be found wanting."

Few will underestimate him now.

Can't be a real comment. No Dogs supporter I know has faith in their backline.

If he kicked one more goal would he have pinched the Norm Smith off Trac?

7 would surely go close.

  On 24/11/2021 at 09:05, leave it to deever said:

If he kicked one more goal would he have pinched the Norm Smith off Trac?

7 would surely go close.

Nobody was going to take that medal off Trac. 39 (40?) disposals, 2 goals, a million goal assists. Broke records. 

Fritta was enormous, but Trac was more influential.

  On 24/11/2021 at 21:28, Jaded No More said:

Nobody was going to take that medal off Trac. 39 (40?) disposals, 2 goals, a million goal assists. Broke records. 

Fritta was enormous, but Trac was more influential.

I agree that Trac tore it up and of course the medal was 100% his. 

But  I was just wondering how close Fritta was? He must have been second. 

In the modern game six goals is a lot, especially in a final.

I'm pretty sure the decision was made about CP quite quickly.

But Im keen to hear opinions as to how many goals he would have needed for them to stop and consider BF.  

For arguments sake let's assume that his poster earlier in the game was a goal and the miss in the last quarter went through as well...would 8 goals have clinched it?

 

  On 23/11/2021 at 04:37, adonski said:

Can't be a real comment. No Dogs supporter I know has faith in their backline.

Same here. The Dogs achilles heel going forward too.

Doggies friends said Easton Wood was done at the end of 2018. Not many team, Dogs especially , can boast a premiership-standard defence when the game is won traditionally. Daniels ins't a defender, and can be taken advantage of. ...etc.

May, Lever, Salem, Petty, Bowey, Hunt, Hibberd, Rivers.

No wonder teams average 65 points against the Dees in 2021..

  On 24/11/2021 at 22:27, leave it to deever said:

I agree that Trac tore it up and of course the medal was 100% his. 

But  I was just wondering how close Fritta was? He must have been second. 

In the modern game six goals is a lot, especially in a final.

I'm pretty sure the decision was made about CP quite quickly.

But Im keen to hear opinions as to how many goals he would have needed for them to stop and consider BF.  

For arguments sake let's assume that his poster earlier in the game was a goal and the miss in the last quarter went through as well...would 8 goals have clinched it?

 

Fritta was good, but also simply at the end of some exquisite play and delivery from our mids. Did very well to take his chances…

Trac by a mile… then Fritta, I’d have personally rated Oliver and Salem higher than they were. 

Edited November 25, 20213 yr by PaulRB

  On 24/11/2021 at 22:27, leave it to deever said:

I agree that Trac tore it up and of course the medal was 100% his. 

But  I was just wondering how close Fritta was? He must have been second. 

In the modern game six goals is a lot, especially in a final.

I'm pretty sure the decision was made about CP quite quickly.

But Im keen to hear opinions as to how many goals he would have needed for them to stop and consider BF.  

For arguments sake let's assume that his poster earlier in the game was a goal and the miss in the last quarter went through as well...would 8 goals have clinched it?

 

Yes, Fritsch was voted second best by all judges:

• Luke Hodge (Chair) – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver.
• Harry Taylor – C Petracca, B Fitsch, C Salem.
• Tania Armstrong – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver.
• Andrew Krakouer – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Daniel.
• Callum Twomey – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver.

On any other day the medal would be with Bayley.  We could have won if he didn't kick 6.  But, I doubt we would have won if Petracca hadn't put on his "I'm not going to let us lose this game" face and then went to town.

Edited November 25, 20213 yr by Lucifers Hero

Fritsch kept us in it early taking every opportunity and they both turned the tide but Petracca won the arm wrestle and then broke the arm.

  On 23/11/2021 at 04:22, mauriesy said:

This pre-GF comment from a Bulldog supporter on woof.net is typical of the lack of recognition Fritsch had:

Fritsch will be found wanting… HIS 7th GOAL

Finished their sentence for them. 

  On 25/11/2021 at 20:10, PaulRB said:

Fritta was good, but also simply at the end of some exquisite play and delivery from our mids. Did very well to take his chances…

Trac by a mile… then Fritta, I’d have personally rated Oliver and Salem higher than they were. 

Tx PRB. Salem took the most Mark's in the team but usually they are mostly the quick chip out of defence. Not taking anything away from him, he was terrific but I reckon Oliver was better with ten tackles and work in the clearances.

But although he had less possies I would actually put Angus in front of them. He played his heart out, put his body on the line time after time and chose the granny to play the best game of his career and kicked true for once😁 which put us back in front.

Sorry wrong thread ( again)

Since I had to edit I'll just say Frittas the best.

Edited November 26, 20213 yr by leave it to deever

  On 20/11/2021 at 11:34, Fork 'em said:

I remember watching his draft highlight reel and he reminded me alot of Flower then.
Could take a big mark and skilled on the ground.
Helped that he's about the same height, skinny and wore #2 in the clip as well.
The club knew what they were doing when they flipped him #31. 
 

 

Great to hear someone else saw it! 
I remember saying to someone in his first season that the way Fritsch moved reminded me of Tulip, only to receive eye rolls in return.

Part of the reason I was happy to see him move up the field later, but no one can deny his place is in the forward line now.

  On 25/11/2021 at 00:22, Demon17 said:

Same here. The Dogs achilles heel going forward too.

Doggies friends said Easton Wood was done at the end of 2018. Not many team, Dogs especially , can boast a premiership-standard defence when the game is won traditionally. Daniels ins't a defender, and can be taken advantage of. ...etc.

May, Lever, Salem, Petty, Bowey, Hunt, Hibberd, Rivers.

No wonder teams average 65 points against the Dees in 2021..

Just shows if you have good or very good or special footballers in most positions you win the flag. Especially when they play together ruthlessly as a team! 

  On 27/11/2021 at 01:24, Mach5 said:

Great to hear someone else saw it! 
I remember saying to someone in his first season that the way Fritsch moved reminded me of Tulip, only .to receive eye rolls in return.

Part of the reason I was happy to see him move up the field later, but no one can deny his place is in the forward line now.

Or his special place in Our history, and indeed in the AFL folklore.

 

  On 27/11/2021 at 05:48, 58er said:

and indeed in the AFL folklore.

Up there with Shane Ellen...

Needs to shave those sideburns .

  On 27/11/2021 at 05:52, Engorged Onion said:

Up there with Shane Ellen...

Hopefully has more longevity 

  On 23/11/2021 at 02:04, Engorged Onion said:

Strongly disagree with the notion that coaches don't rate him.

He fills the gaps of the leading lanes that either Brown or Tmac (Weid) create. His assets are his hands and his leap and his read of the play, and then the silk of his kick - he is highly highly regarded with AFL circles, as has been for a few years.

The question for each coach, is about how they allocate their own assets. Once Brown and Tmac (Weid) has been covered off (as each have shown they can kick multiple goals many times throughout the year - who is left to cover a fairly unique player who isn't tall, but plays tall... he's on to the 3rd best defender, who is a mid size, who wont typically have the leap or is deficient in other attributes.

Fritsch's body of work ALSO means that defenders are well aware of his ability- so defenders also have to second guess whom to commit to - giving both their own defender AND Fritsch, often enough time (milliseconds) to react to the flight of the ball moreso than the defender who is 'panicked' about whom of the 3 (or 4 if Jackson/Gawn floats down) is the bigger aerial threat.

 

And with Kossie Picket or Charlie Spargo lurking

  On 24/11/2021 at 22:27, leave it to deever said:

I agree that Trac tore it up and of course the medal was 100% his. 

But  I was just wondering how close Fritta was? He must have been second. 

In the modern game six goals is a lot, especially in a final.

I'm pretty sure the decision was made about CP quite quickly.

But Im keen to hear opinions as to how many goals he would have needed for them to stop and consider BF.  

For arguments sake let's assume that his poster earlier in the game was a goal and the miss in the last quarter went through as well...would 8 goals have clinched it?

 

Nup. 
sign of the times. 
Eight in a Granny doesn’t cut it anymore.