COVID & AFL 2021

[Macca 17,048]

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

This is it - keep winning and the business takes care of itself. Sponsors, gate, memberships, TV blockbusters.

There's still a chance to get a game to the NT. GWS home game maybe? Adelaide home game? Have to weigh up the 700k (whatever it is) against Fortress MCG - number 1 priority should be wins, not revenue - wins take care of that. We need a top 2. Insurance against losing first week and having to go interstate.

 

The club needs to be aggressive on at least 2 fronts ... the winning of games is a priority

But the loss of 2 big revenue games could be replaced with 4 others.  Make a profit from the situation.  Strike while the iron is hot (10 & 1 gives us leverage)

As you suggested the GWS game could be played in the NT:this year but we could have 2 NT games (Alice Springs only) next year ... 1.6 mil instead of $800k (Against low drawing interstate teams of course)

Plus 2 more blockbusters next year ... both Friday night FTA vs Cats & Bombers

And the QB clash next year needs to be our home home game again

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,967]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

The club needs to be aggressive on at least 2 fronts ... the winning of games is a priority

But the loss of 2 big revenue games could be replaced with 4 others.  Make a profit from the situation.  Strike while the iron is hot (10 & 1 gives us leverage)

As you suggested the GWS game could be played in the NT:this year but we could have 2 NT games (Alice Springs only) next year ... 1.6 mil instead of $800k (Against low drawing interstate teams of course)

Plus 2 more blockbusters next year ... both Friday night FTA vs Cats & Bombers

And the QB clash next year needs to be our home home game again

If this game is in front of a crowd next week and we make some money of it,  then I assume Collingwood will get the home game next year.

[Macca 17,048]

16 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If this game is in front of a crowd next week and we make some money of it,  then I assume Collingwood will get the home game next year.

Yeah but how much are we going to make? 

If it's an amount way less than what we could have been expecting with the game at the MCG,  I'd be playing hard ball

For once, we are in a position of strength

Meanwhile, Collingwoid are in disarray.  And the handshake deal with regards to the QB clash needs to be fair to both clubs

 

[Superunknown 4,225]

13 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yeah but how much are we going to make? 

If it's an amount way less than what we could have been expecting with the game at the MCG,  I'd be playing hard ball

For once, we are in a position of strength

Meanwhile, Collingwoid are in disarray.  And the handshake deal with regards to the QB clash needs to be fair to both clubs

 

I don't like handshake details. This should be contracted in whatever manner is needed. And taking into account sovereign risk, so if a team loses it one year, they get it the next (or until crowds allowed at some pre determined capacity ie 85%). This could bite the other team on the bum also.

[Neil Crompton 5,685]

How about we split the take every year?

[Macca 17,048]

2 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I don't like handshake details. This should be contracted in whatever manner is needed. And taking into account sovereign risk, so if a team loses it one year, they get it the next (or until crowds allowed at some pre determined capacity ie 85%). This could bite the other team on the bum also.

You've taken me a bit too literally with regards the handshake deal on the QB clash.  The chances are that there are drawn up contracts

If so,  then we can be expecting $1Million plus from the deal.  Are we going to get anywhere near that sort of money if the game is played elsewhere?  I doubt it but you never know

[Macca 17,048]

12 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

How about we split the take every year?

That might work but it shouldn't be forgotten that Collingwood make a lot of money as the away team at QB clash

They have that whole Ponsford stand that caters for their 15-20 thousand premium members.  Pouring rights, food, merchandise sales etc etc are probably in their favour as well

As the away team what do we make? At a guess I'd say SFA

We owe the filth nothing

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

11 minutes ago, Macca said:

They have that whole Ponsford stand that caters for their 15-20 thousand premium members.  Pouring rights, food, merchandise sales etc etc are probably in their favour as well

Ah yes... the old Ponsford variant

Eddie wasn't dumb 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

LOL... this fan’s take on it. 
 

[Macca 17,048]

17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Ah yes... the old Ponsford variant

Eddie wasn't dumb 

Have you ever heard them utter one word about the benefits of being the away team at the QB clash?

Or any blockbuster at the MCG as the away team?

Very coy,  crickets in fact

Good luck to them for being so enterprising but when they cry poor it's a ruse

[Jaded No More 68,974]

3 hours ago, rjay said:

 

If we played the Saturday night I don't think we would get to the 50% crowd (50k)...

The army of frontrunners are not turning up.

50,000 is way more than you’d get in Sydney and the same if not more than what you would get in SA. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

50,000 is way more than you’d get in Sydney and the same if not more than what you would get in SA. 

all comes down to the total revenue/stadium deal.

Geelong reportedly make more from playing at Kardinia Park in front of 35k than playing at the MCG with a crowd of 55k.

Peggy O'Neil (Richmond President) said on ABC radio that Essendon were very happy with the financial result of playing at Optus this weekend.

Perhaps time for the MCG Trust to get into the bidding war.

[Superunknown 4,225]

Vic has just announced they have the Indian (Delta) variant and don't know where it came from....

[Demonland 73,209]

 

[Demonland 73,209]

 

[dice 712]

25 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Bit harsh. I thought most of them were wearing masks but just not properly, which I thought you were allowed to do when eating, etc.

[titan_uranus 25,046]

3 hours ago, dice said:

Bit harsh. I thought most of them were wearing masks but just not properly, which I thought you were allowed to do when eating, etc.

The Crows released a press statement accepting the fine and said they accept it and own the mistake "from top to bottom". So I suspect they definitely did the wrong thing.

https://www.afc.com.au/news/952221/club-statement-afl-sanction

[Demonland 73,209]

 

[Demonland 73,209]

 

[dees189227 12,429]

We need to get on top of this covid in melbourne big time, it would be horrible if a disaster was to happen and there were no finals in melbourne. It would just be typical the year we are flying if we did make it to the big dance we couldn't attend. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,967]

Really hoping crowds will be allowed for our game against Essendon on 26 June.

We’re onto something special this year and it’s such a shame that we have to watch the games at home.

Does 4 cases a day warrant a multiple week lock down?

[deanox 10,004]

38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Really hoping crowds will be allowed for our game against Essendon on 26 June.

We’re onto something special this year and it’s such a shame that we have to watch the games at home.

Does 4 cases a day warrant a multiple week lock down?

I think it does when they haven't been able to identify the source or infection point for some of the cases: if we stay open and the cases go from 4 per day to 20 per day quickly, we could be looking at months not weeks.

[Demon Disciple 12,281]

57 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

 

Does 4 cases a day warrant a multiple week lock down?

I reckon a majority of Victorians are starting to really struggle with covid fatigue.

As a casual I am stood down but still lucky enough to have a job, but this lockdown I have found I am starting to really miss it and its sense of drive and purpose it gives me. Having nothing to do really is quite boring, and for many I fear it will be too much to bare.

Lucky enough our Dees are giving us all some much needed hope and inspiration to just keep going. I’d be mightily [censored] if footy is taken away from us in Victoria for much longer (I dread the thought of losing finals to the other states again). Finals in Melbourne spells the beginning of Spring, of hope and re-birth.

Why is it that Victoria and those in charge simply have NFI when it comes to handling this virus? Someone coughs and we seem to go back into lockdown.

Every other state has done significantly better in managing this thing than us. The bureaucrats are slowly killing this state, bleeding it dry with death by a thousand cuts.

And now I hear Dan is primping himself up, coming back to save us all. FMD. Bloody glad the Tiggies ripped the heart out of Dans Druggies. He’s as smug and arrogant as the rest of their supporters. Good riddance to him, his club and this [censored] virus.

Edited June 5, 2021 by Demon Disciple

[Pates 9,661]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Really hoping crowds will be allowed for our game against Essendon on 26 June.

We’re onto something special this year and it’s such a shame that we have to watch the games at home.

Does 4 cases a day warrant a multiple week lock down?

If it's one thing I've learned over here in the UK, much better to have short term pain in order to get a long term better result. But ultimately the biggest thing is that people need to get vaccinated. Yet again the UK are going to be the Guinea Pigs to test how strong the vaccines really are, reported cases are rising but importantly if hospitalisation stays steady (particularly in the vaccinated) then it's a positive for everyone.  

Really hoping the Vic government are able to get on top of this to allow finals to take place in Melbourne.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

7 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Why can other byes be pushed out but ours can’t? We should be trying to save Queens Birthday and Big Freeze from being played in front of 3 people in Sydney. Another week could make a big difference.