NO

6 hours ago, Dr.D said:

because as an intellectual person it bugs me when people don't use basic logic. 

p.s. you're on a supporters forum so of course you care what some supporters feel.

An intellectual lol. 
 

Someone with just a touch of intelligence wouldn’t need to keep asking the difference between May and Howe leaving their respective clubs. They could work it out for themselves. 
 

May has been nothing but respectful to Gold Coast. Where as your mate has stuck the boots in like a smart [censored]. Kids went to watch him with his number on their back, to say he played in front of no crowds shows no class or appreciation of those who supported him, even if it was just a [censored] joke. 
 

And you should probably have a look at your own garbage posts before calling people names, doc. 

20 hours ago, Hannibal Inc. said:

I wouldn't automatically rule out a player that will be 32 next year, but in Howe's case his body has been ravaged with injury.

 

 

12 hours ago, rjay said:

Wow, I didn't realise he was that old...

He had a great injury free run there for a while but the last few years haven't been kind.

Collingwood's list is looking worse than I thought with Sidebottom on the way out and Pendles nearer the end than the start and Howey struggling with injury also near the end.

 

 

7 hours ago, Dr.D said:

he's 30. so he's saying 32 next year to be sneaky. didn't fool me

He turns 31 in June this year so that means he's 32 next year.

No sneakiness or fooling about it, 32 is 32...

8 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

An intellectual lol. 
 

Someone with just a touch of intelligence wouldn’t need to keep asking the difference between May and Howe leaving their respective clubs. They could work it out for themselves. 
 

May has been nothing but respectful to Gold Coast. Where as your mate has stuck the boots in like a smart [censored]. Kids went to watch him with his number on their back, to say he played in front of no crowds shows no class or appreciation of those who supported him, even if it was just a [censored] joke. 
 

And you should probably have a look at your own garbage posts before calling people names, doc. 

I take a different view.  Howe was effectively sacked, he wanted to stay and we said no.  I don't think May was in the same position but I don't know what GCS's attitude was.  Like it or not I don't think we handled the Howe situation well at all so I think Howe had good reason to feel hurt by what happened and hence probably didn't feel the need to say nice things about us.

And his quip about small crowds was a funny one liner.  People have thin skins.  If you were the supporter of another club you'd just laugh because it was a reasonably funny comment.  Perhaps he shouldn't have made it, perhaps we shouldn't be such snowflakes.

50 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I take a different view.  Howe was effectively sacked, he wanted to stay and we said no.  I don't think May was in the same position but I don't know what GCS's attitude was.  Like it or not I don't think we handled the Howe situation well at all so I think Howe had good reason to feel hurt by what happened and hence probably didn't feel the need to say nice things about us.

And his quip about small crowds was a funny one liner.  People have thin skins.  If you were the supporter of another club you'd just laugh because it was a reasonably funny comment.  Perhaps he shouldn't have made it, perhaps we shouldn't be such snowflakes.

I never heard anything about him wanting to stay. All I remember is him wanting to be a forward at Collingwood. If that’s the case it changes things slightly. 
 

Anyway I was more in the mode of explaining to Dr Dippy why people don’t like Howe. I personally don’t care about him and have never been offended by anything. 

Howe wanted out. He wasn’t sacked 

 

Howe you wanted to leave the morning after a big night in Bali with his childhood hero Bucks and promises of playing forward for the club he loved as a kid and quite literally has a tribute tattoo toward on his ankle

Without him going we would never have had the collateral to bring in Oliver

I know who I prefer in our 22

Howe leaving according to his manager at the time..

Much of Howe's motivation to test the market stems from frustration over the multitude of roles he has been asked to play with the Demons. This year he played predominantly at half-back, and in the past he has alternated between attack and defence.

He is keen to explore a more flexible, floating role as a wingman or high half-forward in the Jack Gunston mould. 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/89658/demon-high-flyer-jeremy-howe-likely-to-leave

I do find the we sacked Jeremy How comment interesting considering in July 2015 it was Howe and his management that put off contract talks until the end of the year.

This article at the time  August 2015 stated that Paul Roos in fact wanted to keep Howe.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/196826/demons-restart-jeremy-howe-contract-talks

With Jeremy we've just started talking to his manager again about what he wants to do. 

"We're really keen to have him part of the footy club … he's started to settle in as a defensive player and is playing some really good footy."

Edited April 30, 20213 yr by dazzledavey36

Yeah, [censored] him.

Howe was my daughter's favourite player. The first number she ever got on her jumper was 38.

My list shown below is a bit dated (circa 2015). Dwayne and BT still belong though, as does Billy Crystal.

 

And no, wouldn't take him back.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I do find the we sacked Jeremy How comment interesting considering in July 2015 it was Howe and his management that put off contract talks until the end of the year.

This article at the time  August 2015 stated that Paul Roos in fact wanted to keep Howe.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/196826/demons-restart-jeremy-howe-contract-talks

With Jeremy we've just started talking to his manager again about what he wants to do. 

"We're really keen to have him part of the footy club … he's started to settle in as a defensive player and is playing some really good footy."

I don't expect you to believe me Dazzle but that's spin from Roos. He was pushed.

5 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I don't expect you to believe me Dazzle but that's spin from Roos. He was pushed.

Then how do you explain Howe putting contract talks off in the middle of the year?

His manager was adamant that it was Howe's decision as well leaving the club after being pushed to a backline role and not forward which Howe was frustrated with. 

Not entirely sure that's spin from his manager.. if he was pushed he would have said so.

 

 

 

Just can't see a role for him alas. Lever is our intercept mark in the back line, and Fritsch is our medium sized marking forward. 
While I don't hold grudges, some of his [censored] comments about his time with us have been remembered too. 

45 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I don't expect you to believe me Dazzle but that's spin from Roos. He was pushed.

Pushed - You have got to be kidding. You must be the only Demonlander believing that.

Any evidence to back your claim ?

1 minute ago, Cranky Franky said:

Pushed - You have got to be kidding. You must be the only Demonlander believing that.

Any evidence to back your claim ?

Take it or leave it, I really don't care. I've got plenty of evidence but I don't intend to share it.

Those that know me here will most likely accept my version. I'm happy for you to have a different view.

Isn't this discussion all a bit pointless? Clearly Jeremy Howe has become a much better player since he moved to Collingwood and he isn't about to come back to Melbourne. Isn't it time we moved on like he has?

19 hours ago, Dr.D said:

because as an intellectual person it bugs me when people don't use basic logic. 

p.s. you're on a supporters forum so of course you care what some supporters feel.

Yes, you're very intellectual. Thank goodness we have you, Doc.

43 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Pushed - You have got to be kidding. You must be the only Demonlander believing that.

Any evidence to back your claim ?

 

40 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Take it or leave it, I really don't care. I've got plenty of evidence but I don't intend to share it.

Those that know me here will most likely accept my version. I'm happy for you to have a different view.

I believe he was pushed...so maybe that makes 2 of us.

He didn't get the warm and cuddly embrace and looked elsewhere.

...a little like Chip, pretty much encouraged to explore his options.

13 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

An intellectual lol. 
 

Someone with just a touch of intelligence wouldn’t need to keep asking the difference between May and Howe leaving their respective clubs. They could work it out for themselves. 
 

May has been nothing but respectful to Gold Coast. Where as your mate has stuck the boots in like a smart [censored]. Kids went to watch him with his number on their back, to say he played in front of no crowds shows no class or appreciation of those who supported him, even if it was just a [censored] joke. 
 

And you should probably have a look at your own garbage posts before calling people names, doc. 

 

Is this the interview that you speak of?

It's really not that bad. We came 13th, 17th, 17th, 16th, 13th in the 5 years prior. He doesn't owe us anything. He made himself an A grade quality player because he left Melbourne. Best decision he's ever made. He got into career best form at the pies so he clearly needed a change of scenery. 

19 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

I believe he was pushed...so maybe that makes 2 of us.

He didn't get the warm and cuddly embrace and looked elsewhere.

...a little like Chip, pretty much encouraged to explore his options.

I agree, he was about the only one with trade currency at the time.

1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Take it or leave it, I really don't care. I've got plenty of evidence but I don't intend to share it.

Those that know me here will most likely accept my version. I'm happy for you to have a different view.

My understanding was that we were keen for him to accept a significant offer from the Gold Coast, which would have netted is a top 10 pick (7 I think).

I don’t believe we were keen for him to leave to Collingwood for next to nothing.

Collingwood came in very late in the process when the GC trade was all but a done deal.  Howe accepted significantly less money and we received significantly less in return.

 

2 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Take it or leave it, I really don't care. I've got plenty of evidence but I don't intend to share it.

Those that know me here will most likely accept my version. I'm happy for you to have a different view.

Well it can join the long list of MFC rewritten history along with the departures of Alves & Jolly and the Henry Coles & Shane Zantuck altercations.

 

 

2 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Take it or leave it, I really don't care. I've got plenty of evidence but I don't intend to share it.

Those that know me here will most likely accept my version. I'm happy for you to have a different view.

I have no reason not to believe you, as I know your track record.

I am curious, do you know why he was pushed? 

We probably don't want him.

He probably doesn't want to come.