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dunno if it's the same these days, but players are limited by what vlad used to dub 'the phys ed-ers' from doing repeat kicking drills so that they're not 'over-working' their legs

ross the boss' suggestion that players do 'away from training' goalkicking practice would, i suspect, be frowned on by the fitness staff...which is patently ridiculous

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1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

dunno if it's the same these days, but players are limited by what vlad used to dub 'the phys ed-ers' from doing repeat kicking drills so that they're not 'over-working' their legs

ross the boss' suggestion that players do 'away from training' goalkicking practice would, i suspect, be frowned on by the fitness staff...which is patently ridiculous

The game and preparation has come a long way over the years, but there's still areas for improvement.

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6 hours ago, rpfc said:

Again, you will not be learning technique to be repeated under the roof at Marvel or at the swirly contained G.

What a ridiculous back and forth this is.

Isn't it remarkable how all those who have historically had good techniques can kick well in any conditions.

Over and out.

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Great training report. Now i am thinking we should not change a winning team at this stage.  We have had lick with injuries. That will not last forever. Players banging down the door will just have to keeping banging it down. Their turn will come.

Wins and a winning culture has just been so hard for us to get consistency in. Reward those getting it right.

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18 hours ago, Vagg said:

So, roughly half...?  (Give or take...)

I don't think so because at least 3 were rushed. Not sure how many....

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22 hours ago, sue said:

I've said this before, but how can players practise goal kicking at a windy site like Casey?  When they miss (or score) they won't know if it was their technique or the wind that was the cause.  

You clearly don't play golf Sue!

When you play golf in the wind its very easy to know what the wind does to a ball's flight.

You know when you hit a solid straight shot or if you have hit the ball with a draw (or slice) . The sideways movements are exacerbated but a straight shot is much less affected generally.

 

I doubt it is any different for kicking a football.

 

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17 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

You know when you hit a solid straight shot or if you have hit the ball with a draw (or slice) . The sideways movements are exacerbated but a straight shot is much less affected generally.

My straight shots are affected whether there is wind or not. 

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4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

You clearly don't play golf Sue!

When you play golf in the wind its very easy to know what the wind does to a ball's flight.

You know when you hit a solid straight shot or if you have hit the ball with a draw (or slice) . The sideways movements are exacerbated but a straight shot is much less affected generally.

 

I doubt it is any different for kicking a football.

 

A stationary spherical golf ball being hit by a plane surface is a lot simpler than a spinning oval football being hit with an unevenly structured foot dropping from a variable height.    (I used to play golf.)

I obviously live on a different planet to some here because it seems blindingly obvious to me that if you are trying to perfect a technique then you want to do it with as few external variables as possible.  And later learn how ot adjust for those variables.

Let's drop the wind issue and instead consider learning to kick straight with someone standing on the mark trying to put you off by saying "your mother is a $%$!$&" or throwing mud at you.   If you miskick, how do you know whether it was caused by your poor technique or your distress at hearing your mother so described or your dodging getting mud in the eye?  So perfect your kicking without the abuse/mud.  Once you've got the right technique by all means then learn how to handle the abuse/mud (or the wind).

 

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21 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The thing about Gawn's kicking is that the result is consistent. Therefore, he doesn't need to change his technique. All he has to do is aim further to the right each time.

just snap all shots. simple.

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5 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

This is half right. They should practice goal kicking in the wind. They should also practice it in the calm.

The learning of the technique and the refining of the skill should be done in ideal conditions. Not when under fire.

They can learn more advanced skills (like kicking in the wind) when they've got the basics down reliably.

If you teach a man to swim by throwing him into the deep end of a pool, he may learn to freestyle but more likely he'll learn to dog paddle, and from then on, that's his default swimming style when under pressure.

 

Max should learn to kick to the left and to the right so he knows what the difference feels like. Once he knows that, kicking it straight is a lot easier than when you're guessing.

As a junior playing pennant golf I spent hours practicing in all weather. It is just sensible to optimise for all weather. 

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1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

As a junior playing pennant golf I spent hours practicing in all weather. It is just sensible to optimise for all weather. 

I agree. But no point in practising difficult shots before you get the fundamentals right.  

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On 4/8/2021 at 5:32 PM, picket fence said:

From my perspective each has a "Bag of Tricks" Bowey is hard at it and QUICK and at some piont might oust Spargo, however Spargo is doing all he should so put that away for the time being. Laurie has polish and great football smarts and is sure to feature at some stage. Rosman to me will be "The Enigma" can take strong grabs, kicks freak goals and is elusive. I would think the club would be very happy with these three. Cant wait to see them in Praccy game Vs Willi on Sat

Props for this clubs recruiting.

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3 hours ago, sue said:

I agree. But no point in practising difficult shots before you get the fundamentals right.  

It wasn’t about difficult shots. It was drilling fundamentals in all conditions. Rain, wind, sun. Difficult shots also core practice. 

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6 hours ago, sue said:

I agree. But no point in practising difficult shots before you get the fundamentals right.  

While on the fundamentals; how long has it been a requirement to spin the ball in your hands as you walk up to take a set shot? Every time I see this it just screams unsettled mind to me. If you have a standard hold for the ball and a standard drop I don't know how you can get it right every time if you are constantly twirling the ball as you walk in.

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On 4/8/2021 at 6:19 PM, 4_Kent_Watts said:

Apologies for being off topic but my Boss was talking about Rusty Nails today, wouldn't happen to be part of a cover band back in the day.?

Wasn't me Watts.  I observed many bands back in the day from the bleaches, some good, some great, some bog ordinary and usually i was not fully aware of my surrounds but that's about it.

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13 hours ago, Superunknown said:

It wasn’t about difficult shots. It was drilling fundamentals in all conditions. Rain, wind, sun. Difficult shots also core practice. 

Yes, it wasn't about difficult shots.  It was about developing your set shot kicking technique.

My point is that you first should develop your set shot kicking in perfect conditions so you know when what you are doing is wrong and can't mentally blame the wind etc or be uncertain as to the cause of your miss.  Then practice in all conditions to learn how to deal with wind, rain etc.  I'll try not to post on this again.....

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17 hours ago, sue said:

I agree. But no point in practising difficult shots before you get the fundamentals right.  

I'm with you Sue.  Need to master the basics first before you're able to fine tune and finess, especially under various windy conditions as well as doing so shooting from different angles and / or directly in front.


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On 4/8/2021 at 4:30 PM, Rusty Nails said:

Noice PF.  When is the next training sesh anyone know yet?

Hello Demonlanders, Unfortunately Family business in far Nth Qld this week means I can't do a report. If someone can get down there and suss out training that would be great!

Cheers PF

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