2 minutes ago, adonski said:

Well no, but yes

this

zerrett and pick 6 would be an extraordinary offer

on the flipside, clayton is the best mid i've ever seen in my time following the dees since the mid 80s

lyon's comments are interesting

6 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

If Oliver were to leave that would be the end of this club

Talk about over exaggerating.  I love Oliver and think he is a star but 1 player certainly does not make club. 

15 minutes ago, A F said:

Heard anything @dazzledavey36?

He's not going anywhere for this year.

I'd be more worried if we got to round 10 next year and he was still unsigned and we were not in the top 8.

The Oliver being unhappy is real though.

Edited October 16, 20205 yr by dazzledavey36

13 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Gary knows nothing and I can guarantee you that Melb and Carlton have spoken 

I’ll take Gary’s word ?

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's not going anywhere for this year.

I'd be more worried if we got to round 10 next year and he was still unsigned and we were not in the top 8.

The Oliver being unhappy is real though.

Yep, that's what I've heard too. 

We need to come out of the blocks like Usain Bolt next year.

6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Talk about over exaggerating.  I love Oliver and think he is a star but 1 player certainly does not make club. 

If this club starts losing players of Oliver’s caliber it’s all over. If you don’t agree you’ve got no idea

22 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

If Oliver were to leave that would be the end of this club

As long as we aren’t being dramatic about it.

4 hours ago, Skuit said:

One of the reports noted that Oliver's managers have strenuously denied all these rumours. 

Thanks - missed that- don’t track all that stuff. Why is this still a talking point then? Or is it all melbourne lockdown-acosis?

 

(I’m in not locked down NNSW)

14 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

If this club starts losing players of Oliver’s caliber it’s all over. If you don’t agree you’ve got no idea

So when WC lost Judd, did they shrivel up 

26 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Talk about over exaggerating.  I love Oliver and think he is a star but 1 player certainly does not make club. 

I differ in the respect we had very good foresight to recruit him. He is an exceptionally talented player with the right drive. It is a killer for support and list building if he goes.

18 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

So when WC lost Judd, did they shrivel up 

Well, the year after he left they finished 15th (second last). The year after that 11th. The year after that 16th (last). It took them another 4 years to get back into the 8. This is with the best resources in the AFL. They didn't shrivel up, but they went from competing for flags to nowhere... 

Edited October 16, 20205 yr by A F

12 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

So when WC lost Judd, did they shrivel up 

West coast were a powerhouse with recent premierships. We’re a battling nobody that no one cares about. You start losing your best players and Oliver is a once in a generation mid and we’re [censored]. How many more years do you want to wait for a Premiership? You’re kidding yourself if you don’t realise that. 

8 minutes ago, A F said:

Well, the year after he left they finished 15th (second last). The year after that 11th. The year after that 16th (last). It took them another 4 years to get back into the 8. This is with the best resources in the AFL. They didn't shrivel up, but they went from competing for flags to nowhere... 

correlation !=causation

FWIW

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/16/garry-lyon-puts-to-bed-clayton-oliver-trade-rumours/
 

 

55 minutes ago, A F said:

Heard anything @dazzledavey36?

How the hell would he know, this is just another garbage thread based on baseless rumors and everyone is getting taken in

5 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

correlation !=causation

I'm only disputing that West Coast remained a strong club after Judd left. It's untrue and their performances showed this.

2 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

How the hell would he know, this is just another garbage thread based on baseless rumors and everyone is getting taken in

Do you know anything mate or are you just running around trying to put the fire out?

12 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

West coast were a powerhouse with recent premierships. We’re a battling nobody that no one cares about. You start losing your best players and Oliver is a once in a generation mid and we’re [censored]. How many more years do you want to wait for a Premiership? You’re kidding yourself if you don’t realise that. 

I never said he wouldn’t hurt but 1 player doesn’t ruin a whole team 

What a club. Cant even keep one genuine star mid in 20 years happy for longer than 4 years. 

The damage goodwin is doing to the club is unimaginable.

Question has to be asked whether you want to hang on to a disenchanted player a year too long? 

2 minutes ago, A F said:

Do you know anything mate or are you just running around trying to put the fire out?

Like everyone else on this site I don't know anything about what is happening with Oliver but I am sure as hell not getting my knickers in a knot by rumors and innuendo.

2 minutes ago, stranga said:

What a club. Cant even keep one genuine star mid in 20 years happy for longer than 4 years. 

The damage goodwin is doing to the club is unimaginable.

Question has to be asked whether you want to hang on to a disenchanted player a year too long? 

He’s not disenchanted. He wants a Premiership and he’s very unlikely to get that here

55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The Oliver being unhappy is real though.

Well he can get in line behind most of us supporters. 
 

FFS if we are [censored] again next season bye bye quality players and it won’t only be Oliver who will want out imo. 
 

Goodwin betta hit the road running like the Flash cause  if we are zip and 5 he is gone and so is ANOTHER season. 

Edited October 16, 20205 yr by DemonOX

We know nothing as fact but the issue is.

He will not likely sign in the off season. The longer it takes the more his decision is based on team success and playing finals. The pressure will be intense and I am convinced another power club has not shown their hand yet.

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Gary knows nothing and I can guarantee you that Melb and Carlton have spoken 

I am calling you out on this statement.

It’s likely a similar situation to Petracca last year. You’ve got a pro stuck with a bunch of amateurs and he’s looking around. Face it unless we go too 4 next year we’re going to start losing talent.