Gone off a cliff

[3183 Dee 2,907]

6 minutes ago, Gouga said:

This is the link to the Melbourne list: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/alltime/melbourne.html

You can navigate back to the main menu to find the same list for the other clubs. 

P.S. "AFL Tables" is my favourite website.  

Interesting website - as a comparison, Richmond have had 30 players at over 200 games, so not a huge disparity over 130 odd years. However 4 of those players are currently in the team: Edwards, Cotchin, Riewoldt and Martin.

[Lord Travis 10,763]

5 minutes ago, Age said:

Is there somewhere I can check the other clubs? For the oldest club in it, this seems ridiculously low!

Is this then an indictment on the players, our development or the club altogether although the latter two go hand in hand and we all know we are probably the worst in the comp at this!

It is ridiculously low. We are the oldest football club in the world, yet we have only ever had 1 player reach the 300 game milestone. Let that sink in.
Compare that to Hawthorn as an example, a club 40-50 years younger than us. They've had 8 players top 300 games and around 40 top 200 games.
Compare it to West Coast, who have only been around for 3 decades. They've had 21 players top 200 games and have Hurn closing in on 300. 3 decades and they've nearly caught what we've done in over 150 years!

We've had poor development forever as a club. As a result we've lacked star players compared to other clubs. Flower was a very special player, but the fact we still talk about him as a measuring stick shows just how lean the past few decades have been. When you compare us to other clubs we truly are an abysmal failure outside the 50s-60s.

[Gouga 570]

22 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It is ridiculously low. We are the oldest football club in the world, yet we have only ever had 1 player reach the 300 game milestone. Let that sink in.
Compare that to Hawthorn as an example, a club 40-50 years younger than us. They've had 8 players top 300 games and around 40 top 200 games.
Compare it to West Coast, who have only been around for 3 decades. They've had 21 players top 200 games and have Hurn closing in on 300. 3 decades and they've nearly caught what we've done in over 150 years!

Just for fun, this is what a team of 200 game players looks like:

FB: B.Lovett, T.Johnson, S.Smith

HB: S.Febery, G.Hardeman, D.Williams 

C : R.Flower, T.Viney, B.Dixon

HF: A.Yze, J.Mueller, G.Lyon 

FF: R.Robertson, D.Neitz, N.Smith

FOLL: J.Stynes, R.Barassi, P.Beams   

INT: N.Jones, J.McDonald, S.Alves, G.Wells  

EMG: B.Green, J.White, C.Bruce 

[ding 5,126]

I thought this thread was going to be about our membership numbers.

[Gouga 570]

4 minutes ago, ding said:

I thought this thread was going to be about our membership numbers.

Burn.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,910]

5 hours ago, Coq au vin said:

Nonsense. Molly-coddling stars is unnecessary. Do you think Buddy Franklin needed ‘development’ or Wayne Carey? 

Yes.

But both started from a much more talented base than any player on our list since Robert Flower (or, in Carey's case, arguably, ever).

 

 

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Yes.

But both started from a much more talented base than any player on our list since Robert Flower (or, in Carey's case, arguably, ever).

 

 

Buddy actually needed a round the clock minder.  He was high risk with lot of his party activities.  Saw him out there few times high as a kite. Not sure if we need to molly coddle stars but all players need to be developed....even the stars !

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,910]

29 minutes ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Buddy actually needed a round the clock minder.  He was high risk with lot of his party activities.  Saw him out there few times high as a kite. Not sure if we need to molly coddle stars but all players need to be developed....even the stars !

Pretty sure Carey needed a minder, too, and for similar reasons. 

[Ungarieboy 443]

Actually, it is sometimes easier to reach 200+ games at a weaker club; where you may be gifted some games early, have less competition for spots, and then hung onto a little longer at the end of your career.

[COOLX 209]

Will red wine be available prior to the act?

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

On 9/9/2020 at 10:05 AM, Gouga said:

Just for fun, this is what a team of 200 game players looks like:

Fascinating that only a handful of these names come from the golden years

 

17 hours ago, Ungarieboy said:

Actually, it is sometimes easier to reach 200+ games at a weaker club; where you may be gifted some games early, have less competition for spots, and then hung onto a little longer at the end of your career.

No comment!

[old dee 23,880]

2 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Fascinating that only a handful of these names come from the golden years

 

No comment!

In earlier years players were not paid like they are now and many hung up the boots because they could no longer afford the time involved in playing at the highest level or what may seem strange now but there was more money available if you went to a VFA team or major leagues in the bush. 150 game players could literally double their pay by accepting a captains job at a club elsewhere. 

[Lord Travis 10,763]

19 hours ago, Ungarieboy said:

Actually, it is sometimes easier to reach 200+ games at a weaker club; where you may be gifted some games early, have less competition for spots, and then hung onto a little longer at the end of your career.

Then what the [censored] is our excuse?!

[DeePressed 114]

Brendan McCartney leaving could be part of this

[daisycutter 29,756]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

Then what the [censored] is our excuse?!

there is no excuses

reasons a plenty. a fully professional environment does work for some, bur for too many others it is their downfall, big money, lots of attention, molly coddled, can't think for themselves etc etc 

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Then what the [censored] is our excuse?!

Haha when you still see Oscar in 2026 and he is playing his 200th for us it will all become clear.  

We seem to have $hitload of excuses and reasons!