On 9/23/2020 at 12:13 PM, Demon3 said:

Just keep an eye and ear out for rumblings about Luke Ball and the Demons in some capacity... An outstanding person, great leader and footy brain.. If i hear any more i will let you know.. right now its just an aside, but it might become a whisper soon and then who knows. 

Particularly if you put it on here mate. The gronks in the AFL press will pick it up and claim it as their own source.

On 9/23/2020 at 1:01 PM, Pulp Fritschon said:

Pleased to hear this. Always been impressed by Luke Ball. To me he looks like he would make a good footy GM. Be happy to take him in any role though.

I was annoyed/jealous we he was first appointed at the Bombers and surprised to see they let him go. Hopefully somethings does come of this. 

What an interesting idea...

12 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

That was my point.  Everyone calling for another review says that lasts year's review didn't work. Terrible management

Nor did they replace Rawlings.

Who says we haven't already conducted an external review this year?

42 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I think a big clean out of our assistant coaches is absolutely necessary.

If we didn't have to deal with the "soft cap" restrictions then these would be my suggestions.

1) Senior Assistant and Midfield Coach - Michael Voss or Robert Harvey (who I think has been at Collingwood for far too long and probably wants a change)

2) Backline Coach - Justin Leppitsch or Matthew Scarlett

3) Matchday Strategy and Skills Coach - Adem Yze

4) Head of Development - Mark "Choco" Williams (he is the main person I would like to see the Demons recruit)

5) Specialist goal kicking Coach - Brad Green

6) Midfield Development (part-time) - Jordan Lewis

7) Development and Tackling Coach - Lenny Hayes

8) Ruck and Stoppages Coach - Dean Cox

9) Development and Field Kicking Coach - Brent Harvey

10) Leadership and Culture Manager - Brett Kirk

11) VFL Coach - Dean Solomon

 

Obviously this isn't a very realistic list. But it would definitely be of great benefit if we could get good quality football people like this to be part of the Melbourne Demons coaching department.

 

This is way too big. The soft cap is being reduced, so you'll see a much leaner FD.

7 hours ago, A F said:

Who says we haven't already conducted an external review this year?

This is way too big. The soft cap is being reduced, so you'll see a much leaner FD.

"If we didn't have to deal with the "soft cap" restrictions then these would be my suggestions."

Who does our opposition analysis? Saw Matt Rendell on Open Mike the other night and he used to do this for the club. He sure knows his footy and is out of a job at the moment.

10 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Who does our opposition analysis? Saw Matt Rendell on Open Mike the other night and he used to do this for the club. He sure knows his footy and is out of a job at the moment.

Interesting. 

He has a breadth of experience:  player, club captain (Fitzroy), [censored] coach/match-day tactician (Saints) and recruitment manager (Adelaide) and until this year was at the Pies.. 

He has a well rounded footy background.  He played with Gary Pert for a decade. 

Would he be a candidate for GM Football, should the position become vacant?

On 9/24/2020 at 1:57 PM, Rednblueriseing said:

Love to know how you head that 'around the traps' come on mate??

Ha ha

I can't expose my sources, needless to say that you don't have to be a rhode scholar to work out that the players don't react to Goodwin like other teams players to their respective coaches?

Ratten, Simpson. Hinkley, Scott, Fagan, Hardwick........There seems to be genuine respect & love for these coaches & it's clearly evident.

If you don't love the coach, I would assume that it would be extremely hard to put it all on the line for him week in week out.

Word going around Plapp is now gone.

 

Obligatory pet-project post now that Port's season is dead. Let's poach Nathan Bassett. 

30 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Obligatory pet-project post now that Port's season is dead. Let's poach Nathan Bassett. 

It would be a great pick up if Nathan came back to Melbourne. We never should've traded him. 

2 minutes ago, Storm Boy said:

It would be a great pick up if Nathan came back to Melbourne. We never should've traded him. 

I recall that some of Storm Boy was shot in West Lakes . . .

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Word going around Plapp is now gone.

And Ben Mathews.

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

And Ben Mathews.

That is big news Lord Nev. Looks like Simon Goodwin will be surrounded by new coaching staff. 

10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

And Ben Mathews.

I assume he is the one who made comments about some of our players being uncoachable that were attributed to one of our coaches earlier this season. If so I'm glad he's being moved on because it is up to the coach to get the best out of his players. He has had a Rolls Royce midfield to work with and yet we were getting regularly beaten in clearances throughout the year. Time for fresh blood.

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I assume he is the one who made comments about some of our players being uncoachable that were attributed to one of our coaches earlier this season. If so I'm glad he's being moved on because it is up to the coach to get the best out of his players. He has had a Rolls Royce midfield to work with and yet we were getting regularly beaten in clearances throughout the year. Time for fresh blood.

Word is our Clayton prefers not to be coached. I’ve been laughed at for relaying this on here but it’s what I’ve heard

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I assume he is the one who made comments about some of our players being uncoachable that were attributed to one of our coaches earlier this season. If so I'm glad he's being moved on because it is up to the coach to get the best out of his players. He has had a Rolls Royce midfield to work with and yet we were getting regularly beaten in clearances throughout the year. Time for fresh blood.

Maybe. Or maybe he's right.

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I assume he is the one who made comments about some of our players being uncoachable that were attributed to one of our coaches earlier this season. If so I'm glad he's being moved on because it is up to the coach to get the best out of his players. He has had a Rolls Royce midfield to work with and yet we were getting regularly beaten in clearances throughout the year. Time for fresh blood.

Don't agree with this at all.

For so long coaches have been made scapegoats. If this is true what you say that our players are uncoachable then what an absolute disgrace. Smacks of absolute arrogance from our players on the back of zero success.

This isn't the coaches fault here, its the players. Our culture [censored] sucks and its record speaks for itself.

7 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Word is our Clayton prefers not to be coached. I’ve been laughed at for relaying this on here but it’s what I’ve heard

And how do the coaches respond to that mentality 

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Don't agree with this at all.

For so long coaches have been made scapegoats. If this is true what you say that our players are uncoachable then what an absolute disgrace. Smacks of absolute arrogance from our players on the back of zero success.

This isn't the coaches fault here, its the players. Our culture [censored] sucks and its record speaks for itself.

Same players that went behind the coaches back to get a training camp cancelled.

39 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Word is our Clayton prefers not to be coached. I’ve been laughed at for relaying this on here but it’s what I’ve heard

I'd be keen to see you take that up with Brendan McCartney.

Edited October 17, 20204 yr by Pollyanna

14 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

I'd be keen to see you take that up with Brendan McCartney.

Remind me what his role at the club is?

 

16 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

I'd be keen to see you take that up with Brendan McCartney.

Well going off this quote by McCartney at the start of the year I think there is a merit to @Roost it far comment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-2020-afl-melbourne-demons-brendan-mccartney-clayton-oliver/news-story/f1ea160c82ebe5c4f501d4201fbc4e4d

“So ‘Clarry’ was just so headstrong, which for some coaches can be a real turn-off you know they can think this kid’s not gonna listen so he’s not gonna make it,” he said.

“Why was he headstrong? There’s a way to connect with Clarry, people like Clarry and there’s a way not to, but I was pretty strong with him, pretty direct; sent him off to get feedback from a raft of people and not only was it resounding in some areas it was consistent.

“I said ‘so this isn’t made up mate’”.

On 8/1/2020 at 6:18 AM, Demonland said:

I guess I’ll leave this one here. 

 

I am not surprised by those figures of 0-19.  He was removed as Saints coach for a reason.  What could/has he been bringing to the table for us?  I am very puzzled by that appointment.  Mahoney has to go, he has been there far too long for what benefit?

14 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Word going around Plapp is now gone.

 

Lord he has ben job hunting since August when family told me  Goneeeeee!

18 minutes ago, Kent said:

Lord he has ben job hunting since August when family told me  Goneeeeee!

Yeah it's not hugely surprising hey.

10 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Word is our Clayton prefers not to be coached. I’ve been laughed at for relaying this on here but it’s what I’ve heard

Big difference between head strong and being uncoachable (the most self-serving remark an under-performing coach can make). Sounds like Clayton does rate some of the coaches and I think he has a point. I mean we are turning them all over!

I don’t know how oppositional Clayton is but there is a line past which his behaviour becomes detrimental to the team.  You need a strong character to coach him which is why I think Voss would be perfect as our midfield coach. Voss was the best midfielder of his generation so he has the cred and authority for the job.  Plus he's a very capable coach by all accounts. Hopefully he has the good sense to steer clear of the trainwreck at North.