Regrettable Trades

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Mitch Clark was one of only a few players I have seen at Melbourne who opposition Club supporters feared they could not combat.  Another was Jackovich. I do not count Robbie as no matter the damage he did we were still most unlikely to win. Jeff White too, was unbeatable for a while there as well. Petracca has some of the attributes but we will need to wait and see on that one. Interesting all three, Clark, White and Jackovich were traded into the Club.

[spirit of norm smith 16,674]

Sorry HFF.  Jakovich was drafted in via the 1990 draft. Pick 6. 
 

I do agree with your wrap on Clark and Jakovich.  Such talent.  
 

But having watched Robbie through the mid-late 70s and early 80s, he was a champion that no opponent could beat.  They might have rarely negated him but never beaten. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by spirit of norm smith
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[dl4e 5,851]

Paul Callery.

[Cards13 9,117]

While not a trade I still think the Stephen Powell leaving for nothing was a massive c ock up at the time. He was playing some really good footy for us at the time, I know he was slow as a wet week and from recollection wanted longer term than MFc was wanting to give but walking for nothing... 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Sorry HFF.  Jakovich was drafted in via the 1990 draft. Pick 6. 
 

I do agree with your wrap on Clark and Jakovich.  Such talent.  
 

But having watched Robbie through the mid-late 70s and early 80s, he was a champion that no opponent could beat.  They might have rarely negated him but never beaten. 

 

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Just now, Half forward flank said:

 

I did not realy remember the draft for Jackovich, really just making the point all three were somewhat established and not blokes who came through our development system. And yes, of course you are right on Robbie, he did in fact win us  games, and more than that he was the reason many of us toughed out those times. Only saw him beaten once, just slighly by Peter Motley at Princess Park.  Robbie was a genuine Superstar.  A rung behind that lot, players who tore the opposition apart with X factor , for mine, Brian Wilson, Liam Jurrah and Wooma. 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Stef Martin for me is a regrettable trade. We didn't get a whole lot for him, and we have been struggling to get a decent backup ruck since. 

Jeremy Howe can eat a bag. We wanted to keep him after plucking him from obscurity. He wanted big cash, and then went chasing Buckley like a little puppy. He had zero loyalty to us. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,674]

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Trade outs that failed 

Luke Beveridge to Dogs for pick 122.  He played for another 8-9 years.  

Martin Pike to Lions (we got Seecamp who played some good years so trade was probably ok) 

Stefan Martin to Lions (we had oversupply of Ruck) 

Jeremy Howe to Pies (we got Ben Kennedy for a few games) 

Troy Simmonds to Freo (we got Craig Ellis for a few games ) 

But this hurt the most : 

Earl Spalding to the Blues - a sad day. He had five very good years from 87-91 and despite his kicking being a “work in progress”, his marking and agility and work ethic was fantastic.  He could play CHF/CHB equally as good. The Duke was a fan favourite.   The Duke was still a top performer when he left.  He was going to go back home to WA to the Eagles then the Tigers made an offer before Carlton came with big $$$ and their 1st round pick 5 to trade.  It was a big loss albeit Schwarz and Neitz were coming on board so could understand why we took the deal.  He played six very good years at the Blues (92-97) including a premiership.  
We got Jason Norrish with pick 5 who played for 2 years and 20 games before joining Freo when they started.  He played about 150 games and I think became vice captain.   A very handy fast wingman.  We got Donald Cockatoo-Collins with the compensation pick (pick 10) which unfortunately didn’t work out.  

Yes Scott Thompson was another that unfortunately we could not keep.  The go home factor was strong and we got Brent Moloney who had 8 good years, 130 odd games and battled through in some really tough years. 

[Supermercado 2,806]

Jeff Farmer. Though we did get Clint Bizzell out of that in a roundabout, pick swapping way, so it wasn't a total bust. 

[jnrmac 20,327]

On 5/17/2020 at 4:43 PM, Wilbur said:

Martin Pike 

4 time premiership player Martin Pike.

 

It irks me everytime I hear that. 

[jnrmac 20,327]

What about Darren Jarman who was drafted by Melbourne but refused to come....

Sat out a year and went to Hawthorn

[Wells 11 5,476]

7 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

What about Darren Jarman who was drafted by Melbourne but refused to come....

Sat out a year and went to Hawthorn

We should have gone for BOTH Andrew and Darren and we might have got them. Such a shame. 

[Demonstone 23,501]

38 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Sat out a year and went to Hawthorn

It was a bit more complicated than that, jnrmac.  The following from Wikipedia:

Jarman was initially drafted by Melbourne with pick 55 in the inaugural 1986 VFL Draft.,^[2] but chose to remain in Adelaide with the Roosters. Once the Demons' three-year rights to Jarman lapsed, Brisbane claimed him with a concessional pre-draft selection in the 1989 VFL Draft.^[3] Once again Jarman chose to stay in his home state.

In 1990 the turmoil that led to the creation of the Adelaide Crows and thereby automatically relegated the SANFL to secondary importance within South Australia caused Jarman to reassess his career. Following some friction with the Crows' football manager Neil Kerley, Jarman chose to head east, signing for Hawthorn after the club traded pick 10 in the 1990 AFL Draft to the Bears for his contractual rights

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

39 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

What about Darren Jarman who was drafted by Melbourne but refused to come....

Sat out a year and went to Hawthorn

He didn't refuse the sign on fee.

[Demonstone 23,501]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Stef Martin for me is a regrettable trade. We didn't get a whole lot for him, and we have been struggling to get a decent backup ruck since. 

Jeremy Howe can eat a bag. We wanted to keep him after plucking him from obscurity. He wanted big cash, and then went chasing Buckley like a little puppy. He had zero loyalty to us. 

Couldn't agree more about Martin, he's gone to have a very good career at Brisbane.

As far as Howe goes, I thought it was well known that he went to Collingwood for less money than what we were offering because he was a Magpie diehard growing up and he was promised a spot in their forward line.  We all know that didn't last long!

[Demonstone 23,501]

9 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

He didn't refuse the sign on fee.

No such thing as a "sign on fee" is there?  He didn't sign anyway, so I think you may be mistaken.

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, demonstone said:

No such thing as a "sign on fee" is there?  He didn't sign anyway, so I think you may be mistaken.

I here there was 15000 mistakes.

[Demonstone 23,501]

Source?  Or just your imagination?

[spirit of norm smith 16,674]

Stephen Powell. Yes I forgot this mess. Played great years in 2000 and 2002 and vital part of the team.  Missed 2001 through injury.   We let him walk for nil due to a pay dispute.  Major stuff up.  He played another 4 years for the Saints , another 80 games and was a very good player.  

[spirit of norm smith 16,674]

Andy Lovell for Craig Turley.  Turley played 13 very good games before injury ended his career.  Lovell should have stayed and been a one club man.  Disappointed that he left 

[Deemania since 56 6,801]

On 5/17/2020 at 1:28 PM, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Gerard Healey.

Scott Thompson

Darren Jolly

 

Healey , by far the greatest loss at a time when his potency was outstanding.

[whatwhat say what 23,737]

25 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Healey , by far the greatest loss at a time when his potency was outstanding.

he never forgave us for getting good after he was gone either

[Damo 3,456]

Kevin Dyson

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Healey , by far the greatest loss at a time when his potency was outstanding.

He was just startin to hit the high's,  in his career.

Barass was trying to put the squeeze on him (like smithy would do), to get the most out oh him.  So he left.  Took the money with a chip on shoulder.

[spirit of norm smith 16,674]

On 5/18/2020 at 10:41 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Trade outs that failed 

Luke Beveridge to Dogs for pick 122.  He played for another 8-9 years.  

Martin Pike to Lions (we got Seecamp who played some good years so trade was probably ok) 

Stefan Martin to Lions (we had oversupply of Ruck) 

Jeremy Howe to Pies (we got Ben Kennedy for a few games) 

Troy Simmonds to Freo (we got Craig Ellis for a few games ) 

But this hurt the most : 

Earl Spalding to the Blues - a sad day. He had five very good years from 87-91 and despite his kicking being a “work in progress”, his marking and agility and work ethic was fantastic.  He could play CHF/CHB equally as good. The Duke was a fan favourite.   The Duke was still a top performer when he left.  He was going to go back home to WA to the Eagles then the Tigers made an offer before Carlton came with big $$$ and their 1st round pick 5 to trade.  It was a big loss albeit Schwarz and Neitz were coming on board so could understand why we took the deal.  He played six very good years at the Blues (92-97) including a premiership.  
We got Jason Norrish with pick 5 who played for 2 years and 20 games before joining Freo when they started.  He played about 150 games and I think became vice captain.   A very handy fast wingman.  We got Donald Cockatoo-Collins with the compensation pick (pick 10) which unfortunately didn’t work out.  

Farmer

Spalding

Powell

Dyson

Howe

Simmonds

Lovell

Martin

Thompson

Pike

Beveridge