Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Posted August 21, 2020 It was a dark day for the Dees in the final home and away round of 1964 but the team still finished on top of the ladder. Round 18 1964 Footscray vs Melbourne Saturday 22 August Venue: Western Oval Attendance: 20,553 B Crompton Massey Tas Johnson HB McLean Williams Davis C Dixon H Mann Adams HF Vagg Foster Kenneally F Jacobs Bourke Emselle Foll Wise Barassi Rov Townsend 19/20 Leitch Watson The Demons came into the final round with the double chance assured but they were hit by injuries and were forced to field a weakened side for the final home and away game against the eighth placed Bulldogs at the Western Oval. Footscray held sway early by dint of its accuracy in front of goal that helped it to a 19 point half time lead despite having one less shot on goal. After the break the Demons narrowed the gap, mainly through the persistence of their experienced wingmen Dixon and Adams who kept pushing the ball into attack but the forwards were off target. The result was a six point deficit at three-quarter time despite controlling the play for most of the term. Skipper Ron Barassi was having a bad day while his nemesis Ted Whitten was on fire and with the Bulldogs cruising to a runaway 40 point victory, he was able to claim the title of “Mr Football”. To make matters worse, it was the club’s lowest score since early in 1960 and the third time in the last four rounds that the team had failed to score 60 points. Footscray 3.0.18 6.1.37 7.1.43 12.6.78 Melbourne 1.4.10 2.6.18 4.13.37 4.14.38 Goals Townsend 2 Foster Jacobs Best Dixon Jacobs Townsend Adams H Mann P McLean Melbourne held onto top spot by virtue of sixth placed upsetting Geelong, a result which pushed the Cats into fourth position and allowed Collingwood to steal the double chance going into the finals. Reserves Melbourne 10.13.73 defeated Footscray 7.6.48 Goals Robbie 3 Bartlett Wood 2 Unknown 3 Best L Mann Robbie Miller Under 19s Melbourne 14.15.99 defeated Footscray 10.3.63 2 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Posted August 28, 2020 First Semi Final Day 1964 Geelong dominated the second half of the first semi final in front of a crowd of 92,231 at the MCG winning with a score of 12.12.84 to 10.5.65. Otherwise, Saturday 29 August, 1964 was a quiet day for Demon fans. Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 Was the twentieth man Graeme Watson the cricketer ? I simply do not remember. 1 Quote
bush demon 2,209 Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 How many A grade footballers did Melbourne recruit between their 1960 flag and their collapse in 1965? Bourke and Townsend? Now compare with the champions the other clubs were accumulating during that period. Quote
Elwood 3184 1,365 Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said: First Semi Final Day 1964 Geelong dominated the second half of the first semi final in front of a crowd of 92,231 at the MCG winning with a score of 12.12.84 to 10.5.65. Otherwise, Saturday 29 August, 1964 was a quiet day for Demon fans. 3 2 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,808 Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said: First Semi Final Day 1964 Geelong dominated the second half of the first semi final in front of a crowd of 92,231 at the MCG winning with a score of 12.12.84 to 10.5.65. Otherwise, Saturday 29 August, 1964 was a quiet day for Demon fans. When I first heard this song and again when first seeing this clip, I just could not believe how talented these two were in their own rights. This is very much the MFC theme and the thematic so expressed. Thanks, WJ. Right on the eve of destruction. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted August 29, 2020 Author Posted August 29, 2020 4 hours ago, bush demon said: How many A grade footballers did Melbourne recruit between their 1960 flag and their collapse in 1965? Bourke and Townsend? Now compare with the champions the other clubs were accumulating during that period. One problem back in those times was that we had such strong teams across all lines and it was so hard for players to break into the team. The drive and incentive to recruit wasn’t there and we weren’t prepared for the inevitable when a number of players retired or left the club. There was no proper succession plan in place and by the time we woke up, other clubs overtook us in terms of professionalism in every aspect of running a football club. Quote
Mister Ed 317 Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 16 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said: Was the twentieth man Graeme Watson the cricketer ? I simply do not remember. Yes - gave up the footy for cricket and also had a few injuries. Watson passed away a few months ago. 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Posted September 4, 2020 Demon fans enjoying heaven ... Second Semi Final 1964 Melbourne vs Collingwood Saturday 5 September Venue: MCG Attendance: 93,010 B Crompton Massey Tas Johnson HB Anderson Roet Davis C Dixon Williams Adams HF Vagg Jacobs Kenneally F Lord Bourke Townsend Foll Wise Barassi Rov H Mann 19/20 Emselle McLean The strongest rivalry of the 50s and 60s was that between Melbourne and Collingwood and the 1964 Second Semi Final saw the teams evenly matched in the eyes of the football public. The Demons had been the dominant team for most of the season but the Magpies were coming fast. They won the last eight home and away games in a row to set up the match up in the game to determine which side would be first into the grand final. Collingwood jumped out of the blocks early to kick 2.2.14 before Melbourne scored. Bryan Kenneally kicked two goals to put the Demons in front by the narrowest of margins at quarter time but they followed that up with six goals to one in the second term. Melbourne had winners all over the grant and extended its lead to 59 points at the final break and was unrelenting in its dominance in the last. The final winning margin was a massive 89 points, the biggest win to that point of any final in the history of the competition. Rover John Townsend starred with five goals, Kenneally and John Lord with three goals each. Brian Dixon and Hassa Mann joined Townsend in the best three on the ground as the Demons booked their place into their first premiership decider in four years. It was a day for the ages as the rampant Demons put together a string of exciting passages of play that left the Magpies lamenting and licking their wounds and their own fans full of anticipation for an important date in two week’s time. Melbourne 2.3.15 8.7.55 14.13.97 19.20.134 Collingwood 2.2.14 3.6.24 5.8.38 6.9.45 Goals Townsend 5 Kenneally Lord 3 Vagg 3 Barassi H Mann 2 Bourke Best Townsend Dixon Mann Vagg Williams Crompton It wasn’t all bad news for the Magpies as they did taste victory earlier in the day. 1964 Under 19s Semi Final Under 19's Semi Final, 1964 Melbourne vs Collingwood Saturday 5 September Venue: MCG B Bird Millard Jones HB Adams Brodie Griffiths C Rineholdt Feldman Leigh HF Coutts Stone Pritchard F Minton-Connell McNab Wight Foll Russell McNamee Schultz 19/20 Roberts Little Emg J. Osborne Rowarth Lockwood Melbourne led for much of the game but was overpowered in the final quarter. Best for the Demons was Neville Stone. Melbourne 3.2.20 7.5.47 10.7.67 10.10.70 Collingwood 1.5.11 6.8.44 8.10.58 11.13.79 Goals McNabb Schultz 3 McNamee Minton-Connell Stone Wight 2 Quote
forever demons 2,369 Posted September 4, 2020 Posted September 4, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 8:13 AM, Bitter but optimistic said: Was the twentieth man Graeme Watson the cricketer ? I simply do not remember. yep Quote
Supermercado 2,806 Posted September 5, 2020 Posted September 5, 2020 Long shot, but does anyone have the Sporting Globe report on the Grand Final in a scrapbook or similar? I'm hoping to get to the State Library and view it in person when it reopens but if somebody's got it and can send me a scan/pictures that would be fantastic. Quote
bush demon 2,209 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 10:15 PM, Supermercado said: Long shot, but does anyone have the Sporting Globe report on the Grand Final in a scrapbook or similar? I'm hoping to get to the State Library and view it in person when it reopens but if somebody's got it and can send me a scan/pictures that would be fantastic. My friend's sister in Warragul has a ripping round by round scrapbook of 1964 culled from the papers. I am more than happy to help you out. She went to training one night and got the players' autographs as well. 2 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Even though I was lucky enough to be there I am tired of the subject It almost a life time ago for me. 2 Quote
bush demon 2,209 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 From The Age, Monday 21 September. Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I wish every game of the 1964 season was in the archives fox footy style because I'd be watching them all right now. 2 Quote
Supermercado 2,806 Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 8 hours ago, bush demon said: My friend's sister in Warragul has a ripping round by round scrapbook of 1964 culled from the papers. I am more than happy to help you out. She went to training one night and got the players' autographs as well. Ace, I will DM you. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Posted September 11, 2020 The Cats led Magpies through the first half of the 1964 Preliminary Final and, but for their inaccuracy in front of goal, would have set up a grand final encounter with Demons. In the end, the scoreboard told the story and the season was over for the 1963 premiers - Collingwood 7.6.48 defeated Geelong 5.14.44. Earlier in the day, it was the Demons’ greater accuracy for goal that saw them into the Under 19s grand final with an 18 point win over the Tigers. 1964 Under 19s Preliminary Final Melbourne vs Richmond Saturday, 12 September Venue: MCG Attendance: 87,091 Melbourne 1.4.10 6.5.41 10.6.66 14.7.91 Richmond 4.4.28 7.7.49 8.11.59 10.13.73 B Bird Millard Stewart HB Adams Brodie Griffith C Rineholdt Feldman Pritchard HF Minton-Connell T Leahy Stone F Jones McNab, Little Foll Russell McNamee Schultz 19/20 Rowarth D'Arcy Emg J Osborne Coutts Lockwood Wight Goals Little 4 McNab Schultz 3 Russell 2, Feldman Jones Best Adams Little Feldman 2 Quote
Pinball Wizard 374 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Busting to find out what happened on Saturday 19 September, 1964. 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 Grand Final, 1964 Melbourne vs Collingwood Saturday 19 September Venue: MCG Attendance: 102,471 B Neil Crompton Bernie Massey Tassie Johnson HB Tony Anderson Brian Roet Frank Davis C Brian Dixon Don Williams Frank Adams HF Barrie Vagg Graeme Jacobs Bryan Kenneally F John Lord Barry Bourke John Townsend Foll Graham Wise Ron Barassi (c) Rov Hassa Mann 19/20 Ken Emselle Peter McLean Coach Norm Smith Melbourne went into the Grand Final as red hot favourite against a wounded Collingwood but the game turned out to be nothing like the demolition job of two weeks earlier when it won by a massive 89 points. The Pies came out with a determined attitude and they kicked the first goal against a slight breeze before John Lord responded for the Demons. From there, it was an arm wrestle for the rest of the term with Melbourne forging ahead by a solitary point at the end of the opening quarter. Fortunes fluctuated in second quarter with the Demons on top early in the term but the Magpies steadied to kick three goals to take a narrow two point lead into the second half. Melbourne took control after the main break and dominated the third term booting two goals three behinds to a couple of points and, when the siren sounded for three quarter time, it held a lead of 11 points. The Dees remained in control in the early stages of the final quarter but wasted several scoring opportunities with three behinds in a row to extend their lead to 14 points. The persistency of the Magpies paid off with a goal to Tuddenham which was followed by two more behinds to Melbourne who were struggling to grasp the opportunities presented to seal the game. It was at this point that Collingwood’s giant ruckman Ray Gabelich struck a purple patch with two sensational goals to turn the game on its head. His first came at the 17 minute mark with a kick from a boundary throw in and moments later, the second put his team in front came after he took the ball and had four bounces as he carried his bulky frame towards the goals. Gabelich kicked truly after almost losing the ball during his run and suddenly the Magpies held a three point lead. Melbourne’s inaccuracy continued when the usually reliable Hassa Mann marked and missed from almost directly in front leaving his team two points in arrears. With the game in the balance, veteran winger Brian Dixon gathered the ball at half forward and booted it goalwards where it was thumped from the pack and spilled to the ground. Incredibly, it found itself in the hands of Demon back pocket Neil Crompton who made no mistake as he threw the ball on his boot to kick his only goal of the season. He had only gone forward because he followed his opponent upfield, a move that would normally not necessarily have pleased coach Norm Smith. Melbourne now led by four points as the game ticked into time on and, in the frenetic final moments, full forward Barry Bourke took a telling mark in defence to repel one of Collingwood’s final attacks. The siren sounded and players of both sides were strewn to the ground with exhaustion. The Demons had won the premiership. Best players for the Demons were veteran Brian Dixon , Hassa Mann and Brian Roet. Norm Smith was elated at the performance of his charges and described the final term as "the most agonising I have ever experienced in football". And spare a thought for 20th man Peter McLean who spent the entire match sitting on the bench. It was Melbourne’s sixth premiership in ten seasons but it was also the last game played by two champions in Ron Barassi and Frank “Bluey” Adams. It also marked the end of a long reign as the competition’s dominant team. Although the Demons did win their first eight matches of the following season they faltered in the last half of the year amid the controversy of Smith’s sacking and division within. They failed to make the finals for another two decades and the glory days of 1954 to 1964 have never returned. Melbourne 2.6.18 5.7.37 7.10.52 8.16.64 Collingwood 2.5.17 5.9.39 5.11.41 8.12.60 Goals Townsend 3 Lord 2 Bourke Crompton H Mann Best Dixon H Mann Roet Adams Tas Johnson Anderson 1964 Under 19s Grand Final Melbourne vs Collingwood Saturday 19 September Venue: MCG B Bird Millard Stewart HB Griffiths Brodie Adams C Reinholdt T Leahy Pritchard HF Minton-Connell Feldman Stone F Little McNab Jones Foll Russell McNamee Schultz 19/20 Rowarth Darcy Emerg: Coutts Lockwood J Osborne White The Demons began the day winning a premiership in the Under 19s, also against Collingwood using their superior pace and teamwork to beat the Magpies by 14 points after trailing by that margin at half time. Melbourne 2.3.15 5.9.39 9.13.67 12.16.88 Collingwood 3.4.22 8.5.53 9.6.60 11.8.74 Goals McNab 5 Schultz 3 Feldman Little Russell Stone 2 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 18, 2020 Author Posted September 18, 2020 Thanks to bush demon for the colour footage of the grand final. 1 Quote
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