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19 minutes ago, sue said:

Yeah, sorry didn't mean to include you.   Now here's another 'open-minded'  possibility - the Martians are preparing to invade Earth.

Do you believe in Martians Sue.?   Or is this one of those female things,  and so, one of those overreactions, to a simple concept put forth.?

Remember 'be alert',  'not alarmed'.

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9 minutes ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Rubbish.

If anyone at a club gets the virus then your can't play games against that club.  If a few clubs get it,  then the whole competition is in jeopardy.  

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6 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Do you believe in Martians Sue.?   Or is this one of those female things,  and so, one of those overreactions, to a simple concept put forth.?

Remember 'be alert',  'not alarmed'.

Who says sue is a man? Don't you listen to Johnny Cash?

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1 hour ago, AshleyH30 said:

Don't worry guys, the PM has got this handled. He's told the virus to take a break until Monday so he can go to the NRL.

He really know's what he's doing. FFS.

I thought this was a joke at first, but it's true!  He's actually going to the rugby tonight!

Scotty has completely lost the plot.

 

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19 minutes ago, Josh said:

Who says sue is a man? Don't you listen to Johnny Cash?

HaHaHa, I love 'JC.

I thought Sue was a Fem, naturally I am a little naive. But she/he sounds like a Fem.

With Regard to this corona virus, I have just been looking for news on bioweapon theories in the past 10 minutes,  and so far have found two news articles. of interest. >>>

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1253778/coronavirus-chinese-lab-leak-bioweapon-wuhan-institute-virolgy-francis-boyle-spt

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20200312/p2g/00m/0na/019000c

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2020/03/iran-and-russian-media-push-bioweapon-conspiracies-amid-covid19-outbreak/163669/

 

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22 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

There was chatter in some media that the virus 'escaped' from a bio-tech lab near the Wuhan wet market which has been blamed for starting the spread of the virus.  Apparently, several of the people first diagnosed had not been near the market.  One of them was a lab technician from the bio-tech facility.

Make of that what you will.

To put it bluntly this virus is only a concern for the elderly. Look at the death rates. Most people hardly know they are crook. If this virus escaped by accident then maybe you have a point but deliberatly no. It is not lethal enough. As I have said before the whole reaction to this is mindless insanity. Having said all this I have copd so I don't want it. 

Is there something about this virus they are not telling us ? I don't think so.

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19 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Dieter, your odious intimidation efforts are not helping anyone.  I've put forward a pretty straightforward set of copiously verified facts with clear cause and effect relationships.

- that the dismal animal welfare and workplace safety cultures and laws of many countries, but most particularly the globally integrated ones headlined by China, is a major factor in this, previous, and likely future novel contagions.

- that the cover-up first response culture of many authoritarian countries, but most particularly the globally integrated ones headlined by China, is a major factor in virus' being enabled to spread beyond an initial outbreak.

 

Failure to deal with the reality of the situation actually provides racists with a cloak to cover their vileness - based on your response any given racist can now say 'Look, the PC police won't even let us talk about the failings of a repressive totalitarian state.'

I speak from a position of resentment on this because I have watched as this knee-jerk 'it's racist' reaction has provided a similar cloak to awful reactionaries across the world who have successfully branded things like human rights, free press, women's liberation, and so on as 'western/white conspiracies' sent to undermine the 'unity' of the 'natural order'.  From Turkey to Indonesia to Sri Lanka, there's hardly a repressive government that hasn't claimed that, say, Amnesty International is actually just a front for white cultural imperialism.

Dieter, your thoughtless aggression harms people I care about.  Please take some time to reflect on the conspiracy theorist tones of your post I have quoted and whether that is really how you want to relate to the world.

 

I agree in full. To suggest it is racist to point out the obvious and well documented failings of an authoritarian international government is non sensical. 

As LG points out, by muddying the waters this actually emboldens true racists to say whatever they want and pay out on what they see as left wing pinkos when they are criticized.

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1 minute ago, dl4e said:

To put it bluntly this virus is only a concern for the elderly. Look at the death rates. Most people hardly know they are crook. If this virus escaped by accident then maybe you have a point but deliberatly no. It is not lethal enough. As I have said before the whole reaction to this is mindless insanity. Having said all this I have copd so I don't want it. 

Is there something about this virus they are not telling us ? I don't think so.

No.! Its a major risk to anyone who has an underlying respiratory ailment or Heart issues.  Maybe some do not even know they are at risk.  Asthma sufferers particularly.

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

No.! Its a major risk to anyone who has an underlying respiratory ailment or Heart issues.  Maybe some do not even know they are at risk.  Asthma sufferers particularly.

I said I have copd and I have atrial fibulation but I still think it is grossly exagerated.

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2 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

No.! Its a major risk to anyone who has an underlying respiratory ailment or Heart issues.  Maybe some do not even know they are at risk.  Asthma sufferers particularly.

Another cause of susceptibility for respiratory problems is obesity.  If your obese you have a high percentage chance of developing server respiratory reaction from COVID-19 and die.  The other issue with mass infection is available medical resources.  Big issue like in Italy as they do not have enough respirators to treat all patients and keep them alive, they are deciding who gets the support and favouring younger patients, hence their higher death rate.    Plus the secondary effects on the normal emergencies that hospitals would normally have to deal with may not have the resources to do so.  

Shut things down early like Hong Kong and minimise the spread - worked in Hong Kong.

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2 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

No.! Its a major risk to anyone who has an underlying respiratory ailment or Heart issues.  Maybe some do not even know they are at rin sk.  Asthma sufferers particularly.

There is no way to stop the spread, no big crowds, how about peek hour everyday on the train many people, this is madnshess, stop the bull.

Doctors are idiots how long are we going to stop work for one month 2 months 3 months 4 months crash the whole economy for what for old people, the damage it's going to cause to people's mental health, and economical health is not worth this quarantine rubbish, everybody should just go about their own lives and treat people when they get sick that's the only thing the doctors can really control

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12 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I said I have copd and I have atrial fibulation but I still think it is grossly exagerated.

Sorry about you having 'COPD',   'dl4e'.

Do you mind if I ask how this effects you.?  Are you on an Oxy' bottle.?

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1 minute ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Sorry about you having 'COPD',   'dl4e'.

Do you mind if I ask how this effects yo.?  Are you on an Oxy' bottle.?

No and I go about life as normal. physical activity leads to breathlesness but you get it back after a few seconds rest. Still I think this corona virus has been exagerated by the media and politicians. The flu may kill more people than this but only time will tell. They don't seem too concerned about the flu do they.

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13 minutes ago, dl4e said:

To put it bluntly this virus is only a concern for the elderly. Look at the death rates. Most people hardly know they are crook. If this virus escaped by accident then maybe you have a point but deliberatly no. It is not lethal enough. As I have said before the whole reaction to this is mindless insanity. Having said all this I have copd so I don't want it. 

Is there something about this virus they are not telling us ? I don't think so.

I have no doubt the anecdotes mean it 'escaped' by accident; certainly not released deliberately and I wasn't trying to imply such.  Why would China do that in their own back yard?

Totally agree the reaction is 'mindless insanity':  approx 130,000 diagnosed cases worldwide, some 5,000 deaths worldwide.  In a world population of nearly 8 billion.  What are the odds?  Yet world leaders are spooking their citizens and bringing their countries to a standstill risking crippling their economies and communities.

I fear there will be a high price to pay for effectively shutting down activities.

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Seems that the NRL will be behind closed door from Round 2. 

No crowds allowed at AFLW from tomorrow onwards.

Surely we'll get an update about AFL shortly. 

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