Can I interest you gentlemen in a tape measure?

10 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

This is all becoming a little bit hard to comprehend for this little old wine drinking me on a sunday evening.

What's your plonk of choice tonight? I've sampled a 2014 Hunter Sem, a 2017 Margaret River Chard, a Coriole cabernet 2013, a 2017 Beechworth Wine Estate Sangiovese and a Mr Riggs 2018 Coon cab. 

9 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

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 Is this your technical appraisal and professional opinion. 'LG'.?

Hmm, I guess my definition of bonkers would be along the lines of 'an exuberant style of being crazy enough to raise eyebrows and have someone assigned to keep an eye on you at family events, but often found entertaining and generally considered non-menacing'.

Admit it, you'd embrace that!

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21 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Going to the supermarket today sure ruined my post-wedding bubble. Jesus people are insane. How much do people think they’ll eat if they get quarantined for 2 weeks?! 

Damn right, went to the Supermarket last night. The atmosphere was creepy, you could sense fear and apprehension.

 

8 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

 

I swear dieter and I just had a pretty unpleasant spat about this sort of thing yesterday, but, yeah, JSK, you are pretty clearly racist and I'd be perfectly content to see dieter just give you grief every time you post until you pull your finger out or learn it isn't worth the trouble.

And you just look like an idjit when you spit nonsense like 'WHO do do something meaningful for once', instead of, you know, being the single organisation with the greatest positive effect on humanity, ever.

How many potties have you drank or smoked? Your post only makes sense in cuckoo land.

Just now, dieter said:

How many potties have you drank or smoked? Your post only makes sense in cuckoo land.

huh?

5 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Hmm, I guess my definition of bonkers would be along the lines of 'an exuberant style of being crazy enough to raise eyebrows and have someone assigned to keep an eye on you at family events, but often found entertaining and generally considered non-menacing'.

Admit it, you'd embrace that!

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Somehow, I think you would love a conversation with Andrew Bolt.  Where you cold comfortably sit in awe of another's grace,  strange is, that narcissistic types graces would be to your liking.

1 minute ago, dieter said:

What's your plonk of choice tonight? I've sampled a 2014 Hunter Sem, a 2017 Margaret River Chard, a Coriole cabernet 2013, a 2017 Beechworth Wine Estate Sangiovese and a Mr Riggs 2018 Coon cab. 

Zilzie merlot tonight from Karadoc near Mildura, I go back to my mothers birthplace at times and purchased a couple of boxes of mixed varieties.But my favourite is usually Gold Turtle cab sav merlot from Margaret River. 

7 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Damn right, went to the Supermarket last night. The atmosphere was creepy, you could sense fear and apprehension.

 

That's probably the smell of methane left behind,  by those who believe the world is ending soon.  Like the bible suggests.

But the Prophets do not.

19 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

 

I swear dieter and I just had a pretty unpleasant spat about this sort of thing yesterday, but, yeah, JSK, you are pretty clearly racist

Yawn.

I want something done about China. who have been out of control for decades.  I guess common sense is racism.  Cool.

I'll continue to speak up about it.

7 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hypotheses I've read:

• The epicenter is in the industrial north which has one of the worst air pollution in the world
• It has a high ratio of smokers (as have many countries in Europe and Asia).
• It has a high proportion of 'elderly' people who are more susceptible; who could have been life long smokers.

so more likely people have compromised respiratory systems and CV attacks the lungs.

Also:

• They never found 'patient zero' so couldn't find the source making it impossible to track his/her contacts and control the spread.
• Were slow to lockdown the Lombardy epicenter, it wasn't properly enforced and locals left taking the virus with them.

The first three partially explain why their death rate is so high.  Another explanation is they don't have enough ICU beds and ventilators/respirators.  Sadly, doctors are taking a 'wartime triage' approach; treat those that are likely to recover ie healthy and under 80 years of age (Some newspapers are saying the cut off age is 60?).  Harrowing for all.

Other European countries are tracking the same as Italy on a timeline so it wouldn't surprise if they also end up with a high CV cases.

Smoking and the elderly population are the two absolute worst ones. If you're a smoker here you should go get patches, gum, hypnotism whatever you can do to give your lungs a break ASAP.

No real way to test it but I also think kissing as a greeting can't be dismissed as a joke. That level of close contact will spread it at a huge speed.

1 minute ago, drysdale demon said:

Zilzie merlot tonight from Karadoc near Mildura, I go back to my mothers birthplace at times and purchased a couple of boxes of mixed varieties.But my favourite is usually Gold Turtle cab sav merlot from Margaret River. 

Fantastic reply. I work in the business, I'm 69, would have retired if we didn't have a 22 year old daughter, we won't mention the dog, and the stories of remaining faithful to the origins of the 'folks is heartwarming'. My 'Folks' on my mother's side came from Northern Serbia, Ethnic German who were ethnically cleansed in 1944, they were vignerons. They lost everything in one swell foop, as they say. I'd love to have tasted the fruit of my grandfather's labor. Not to be. He was murdered, along with all the other ethnic German men when Tito's men arrived after the Soviet soldiers cleared their path. 

2 minutes ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Yawn.

I want something done about China. who have been out of control for decades.  I guess common sense is racism.  Cool.

I'll continue to speak up about it.

Yawn. I want something done about the greatest terrorist threat to the world, namely the USA. Sorry, but you show symptoms of a very brainwashed racist. 

2 minutes ago, dieter said:

Fantastic reply. I work in the business, I'm 69, would have retired if we didn't have a 22 year old daughter, we won't mention the dog, and the stories of remaining faithful to the origins of the 'folks is heartwarming'. My 'Folks' on my mother's side came from Northern Serbia, Ethnic German who were ethnically cleansed in 1944, they were vignerons. They lost everything in one swell foop, as they say. I'd love to have tasted the fruit of my grandfather's labor. Not to be. He was murdered, along with all the other ethnic German men when Tito's men arrived after the Soviet soldiers cleared their path. 

Sorry to hear that.  The terrible tragedies of war and it will never stop.

5 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Sorry to hear that.  The terrible tragedies of war and it will never stop.

Exactly. It will never stop. The world has learnt nothing, the same carnage and mass murder continues. Somehow, 'we' are always in the right, the 'other' is always to blame.

20 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Damn right, went to the Supermarket last night. The atmosphere was creepy, you could sense fear and apprehension.

 

I'm in the UK and Europe in recent days has taken over as the "epicentre" of this thing now that Italy is in a really bad way. A cousin who lives in Milan has told me it's a bizarre experience to be in this lockdown mode but what people don't seem to be grasping is that lockdown doesn't mean complete quarantine. Public transport is still running, supermarkets are still open, and people still go to work. What is happening is that people are being asked to refrain from being in public areas if it can be helped, so you go to the supermarket and you get your goods for a weekly shop, you go to work only if you have to and if working from home is possible then that's what you do, when you use public transport you try to minimise the close quarters situation.

The world will not stop if Australia (or in my case the UK) decides they need to put in the measures Italy has. The "every man for himself" mentality that has pervaded Australia and the world is truly a sad sight, and it's something that has spread because fear generates fear.

I would like to think that in times like this people will get around each other, but it seems it only takes a few people being selfish for it to spread to everybody else. 

23 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Smoking and the elderly population are the two absolute worst ones. If you're a smoker here you should go get patches, gum, hypnotism whatever you can do to give your lungs a break ASAP.

No real way to test it but I also think kissing as a greeting can't be dismissed as a joke. That level of close contact will spread it at a huge speed.

So to rubbing noses,  'DS'.   Aloha Roosy.

ps: keep your dogs tonges away from your faces.

2 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

And most westerners in the main stream,  have a fairly narrow imaginary sphere IMV,  mainly because of the narrow doctrines most were taught, and thereby largely accept as truth,  from childhood.

I,  on the other hand,  had a very tortuous childhood, of fear and intimidation, so always practised a defence mindset; lookout for trouble in close proximity to others and crowds,  such was the fear of attack I grew up with.

This has had the effect of causing me to be a very good driver in traffic,  and out in the country,  having really developed a strong peripheral vision,  and always looking out for other dangers checking side mirrors and rear-view, often.

I've dodged many a sideswipe or physical attack, and also the boys in blue... until bloody lasers.

Also,  I have a healthy cynicism to things put before me, suggested or portrayed via news, media, etc.  I automatically look fore logic that works for me, motives, reasons, causes? etc.

 

And in modern days,  I truly have almost a contempt to the news these days,  and the words of politicians,  especially ones who represent the money and profit side of worldly events.

Bush and the Iraq invasion, looking for weapons of Mass Destruction. Craap looking to change the Oil from going to Russia.  And to put a western force between Iran And Israel.

 

I find I look for more lateral concepts to the obvious,  before I accept things from the media.  Having considered and processed things for a while.  Sometimes natural things that do not make sense, just happen_  and sometimes people engineer things to appear natural.

See >> Rainbow Warrior.

you and dieter need to get a room together

28 minutes ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Yawn.

I want something done about China. who have been out of control for decades.  I guess common sense is racism.  Cool.

I'll continue to speak up about it.

Perhaps keep it to yourself. 

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you and dieter need to get a room together

Why, Daisy, cos we don't regurgitate the Bulldust the media spreads? I know, you are way above this, you 'know'. Give me a break, admit for once, you are like all of us, you know NOTHING.

 

9 minutes ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Yawn.

I want something done about China. who have been out of control for decades.  I guess common sense is racism.  Cool.

I'll continue to speak up about it.

 

5 minutes ago, dieter said:

Yawn. I want something done about the greatest terrorist threat to the world, namely the USA. Sorry, but you show symptoms of a very brainwashed racist. 

It's like watching a lava lamp.

1 minute ago, Little Goffy said:

 

It's like watching a lava lamp.

WHAT THE FINK IS A LAVA LAMP, BRO?

Let'splay nice. We are currently going through something that none of us have experienced this in our lifetime.

It's quite obvious now that it'll only get worse before it gets better, but how worse is too much? Economic collapse? Growing number in deaths for not only elderly but people of all ages? We are in unfamiliar territory. 

Scary times ahead.

1 hour ago, Pates said:

I'm in the UK and Europe in recent days has taken over as the "epicentre" of this thing now that Italy is in a really bad way. A cousin who lives in Milan has told me it's a bizarre experience to be in this lockdown mode but what people don't seem to be grasping is that lockdown doesn't mean complete quarantine.

Spoke to my Italian sister-in-law last night (from Napoli no less) - quizzing her and joking about the concept of keeping a country of Italians indoors. She said everyone is actually being super-well behaved, as a matter of proud nationalism. 

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