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The New Home Base & Training Ground Thread

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Maths might be slightly out here @Redleg . 30,000 members would have to pay an additional $1,000 to get $30 million. $100 a pop would only generate $3m.

I did say for 10 years.

$100.00 a year for 10 years.

 
9 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

And similar to Hawthorn....this is their second one/redevelopment while we have nothing to show. The glass is totally empty.

It’s a joke.. Guerra isn’t responsible of what’s happened in the past but plenty of others still on the board who along with Pert since 2018 failed to nail this! Hearing Guerra at the draft presser smiling and indicating that an announcement was coming and since then the silence is deafening..

On 05/01/2026 at 17:08, Roost it far said:

Are you saying that if the government don’t come to the party the project is dead?

No its worse than that, Caulfield is already dead and buried and the club know it but are too scared to say it coz at this point there are zero other possibilities. Club will still be looking for a home ground for eons, what a disgrace!

Edited by picket fence

 

Have we ever tried to link a community benefit to this project? Many other clubs have tied in community benefits to make it a more palatable sell for the government but I don't recall hearing any tie-ins with us?

I've said it before but we should be tieing in with Reach to have a community centre for disadvantaged youth, name it after Jim Stynes, it's a home run.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

No its worse than that, Caulfield is already dead and buried and the club know it but are too scared to say it coz at this point there are zero other possibilities. Club will still be looking for a home ground for eons, what a disgrace!

A page or two back I said that I will never see the completion of a permanent home PF. It beggars belief that this has been going on for decades. IMO past boards were hampered by the need for it be near the G when blindly Fredy could see that was never going to happen. It would be nice for once for the board to come out and say this is the plan and we are waiting because of X,Y and Z. Instead of the silence we have endured for decades. Oh some would say we cannot tell you because we are sworn to secretresy. I am confident that this confidentiality card is used to hide the fact we are going nowhere fast as the projects of the past has shown.


3 hours ago, Demonsone said:

It’s a joke.. Guerra isn’t responsible of what’s happened in the past but plenty of others still on the board who along with Pert since 2018 failed to nail this

Like who? apart from Brad Green who has been there since 2020 I would say the average tennure of the current board is about 2 years

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

No its worse than that, Caulfield is already dead and buried and the club know it but are too scared to say it coz at this point there are zero other possibilities. Club will still be looking for a home ground for eons, what a disgrace!

is this your opinion PF or have you been told this?

6 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

is this your opinion PF or have you been told this?

Considered opinion based on some information recieved

 
2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Considered opinion based on some information recieved

If Caulfield falls over it reinforces another huge failure of why our continues to go after so many complex locations, look at Hawthorn they found a stand alone site and made it happen, can see another decade of going around in circles

4 hours ago, Fritta and Turner said:

Like who? apart from Brad Green who has been there since 2020 I would say the average tennure of the current board is about 2 years

New board appointments have ben made in house or strongly endorsed if going to the vote.

The board has effectively been an "echo chamber".

So the current board do take on the legacy of bad decisions or indecision made.

Edited by rjay


completely unhelpful post- but I saw a movie at lido last night parked at Glenferrie Oval , it's so run down and unloved. All the players live over there, it's prime location, there's plenty of space. Would make so much sense to reinvigorate it with the council and make it our long term home.

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

If Caulfield falls over it reinforces another huge failure of why our continues to go after so many complex locations, look at Hawthorn they found a stand alone site and made it happen, can see another decade of going around in circles

Yeah well if thats the case we may as well merge with the Tassie Devils 🥴😵😵‍💫

Edited by picket fence

6 hours ago, picket fence said:

Considered opinion based on some information recieved

Direct opposite info I have received from all three organisations either currently there, or hoping to be there.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well if thats the case we may as well merge with the Tassie Devils 🥴😵😵‍💫

Are you and Bluey the same poster?

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Direct opposite info I have received from all three organisations either currently there, or hoping to be there.

Um ok so WHEN IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT??


12 hours ago, picket fence said:

Um ok so WHEN IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT??

I haven’t got a clue, just that my info from the MRC, school and us, is that it is happening.

Could it fall over, yes obviously, but at this point I have not heard anything suggesting that.

It sounds like we don’t control the announcement, or that there are other issues still to be resolved, I don’t know, but until somebody in the know tells me the opposite, to what I have heard, I will believe the project is proceeding.

Just because it hasn’t been formally announced doesn’t mean it is definitely not happening, that is all I am saying, until we hear officially otherwise.

If this project falls over I will be very, very disappointed, as personally I am really looking forward to it being done and as a nearby resident with my family, would be able to visit often and get some valuable exercise walking there and back and spending time with other Dees fans at training, which I can’t do at the present venues as easily.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I haven’t got a clue, just that my info from the MRC, school and us, is that it is happening.

Could it fall over, yes obviously, but at this point I have not heard anything suggesting that.

It sounds like we don’t control the announcement, or that there are other issues still to be resolved, I don’t know, but until somebody in the know tells me the opposite, to what I have heard, I will believe the project is proceeding.

Just because it hasn’t been formally announced doesn’t mean it is definitely not happening, that is all I am saying, until we hear officially otherwise.

If this project falls over I will be very, very disappointed, as personally I am really looking forward to it being done and as a nearby resident with my family, would be able to visit often and get some valuable exercise walking there and back and spending time with other Dees fans at training, which I can’t do at the present venues as easily.

Mr Leg, I and I suspect many demon fans are very tired of this silence approach we have been experiencing over the last decade. That experience over a number of "home projects" tells me it is has some major problems. I worry when I see the latest President and CEO go silent. We have been here before with zero results.

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

Mr Leg, I and I suspect many demon fans are very tired of this silence approach we have been experiencing over the last decade. I worry when I see the latest President and CEO go silent. We have been here before with zero results.

I don't disagree.

7 hours ago, Redleg said:

I haven’t got a clue, just that my info from the MRC, school and us, is that it is happening.

Could it fall over, yes obviously, but at this point I have not heard anything suggesting that.

It sounds like we don’t control the announcement, or that there are other issues still to be resolved, I don’t know, but until somebody in the know tells me the opposite, to what I have heard, I will believe the project is proceeding.

Just because it hasn’t been formally announced doesn’t mean it is definitely not happening, that is all I am saying, until we hear officially otherwise.

If this project falls over I will be very, very disappointed, as personally I am really looking forward to it being done and as a nearby resident with my family, would be able to visit often and get some valuable exercise walking there and back and spending time with other Dees fans at training, which I can’t do at the present venues as easily.

My information is that yes, the CRRT and the Club want the project to proceed. To the extent that they are involved I understand that the MRC is erecting roadblocks wherever they can. They have never wanted us, nor anyone else for that manner (e.g. the local community) on that site. This position has not been helped by the continuing changes to the MRC Committee and management. My own view is that a political conclusion will only occur when the Premier decides to knock some heads together, i.e. the heads being (1) the MRC and the Racing Industry and (2) the AFL and the Sports industry. Hopefully we come out the winner in that battle.

1 hour ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

My information is that yes, the CRRT and the Club want the project to proceed. To the extent that they are involved I understand that the MRC is erecting roadblocks wherever they can. They have never wanted us, nor anyone else for that manner (e.g. the local community) on that site. This position has not been helped by the continuing changes to the MRC Committee and management. My own view is that a political conclusion will only occur when the Premier decides to knock some heads together, i.e. the heads being (1) the MRC and the Racing Industry and (2) the AFL and the Sports industry. Hopefully we come out the winner in that battle.

Not to mention approval of government funding (min. $50m most likely), which I assume is the main roadblock to the project


2 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

My information is that yes, the CRRT and the Club want the project to proceed. To the extent that they are involved I understand that the MRC is erecting roadblocks wherever they can. They have never wanted us, nor anyone else for that manner (e.g. the local community) on that site. This position has not been helped by the continuing changes to the MRC Committee and management. My own view is that a political conclusion will only occur when the Premier decides to knock some heads together, i.e. the heads being (1) the MRC and the Racing Industry and (2) the AFL and the Sports industry. Hopefully we come out the winner in that battle.

Thanks Harvey, that kind of puts things into a perspective and not a cheerful one.

I can promise you no Gov will go out of its way to spend money where there's no gain.. I can see the State happily using the disharmony to effectively walk away from any mou whether that was formalised or not.

I'd happily have Caulfield going ahead. Not holding my breath.

As big an impediment as any is that we have no real allies in all of this. None I've ever noticed.

Edited by beelzebub

On 10/01/2026 at 19:21, Redleg said:

Direct opposite info I have received from all three organisations either currently there, or hoping to be there.

So why no announcement?? Who is waiting for who to blink first or has everyone got the blinkers on??

Edited by picket fence

46 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So why no announcement??

Probably because there is not full agreement on everything that is involved in getting the project approved and completed.

 
15 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

My information is that yes, the CRRT and the Club want the project to proceed. To the extent that they are involved I understand that the MRC is erecting roadblocks wherever they can. They have never wanted us, nor anyone else for that manner (e.g. the local community) on that site. This position has not been helped by the continuing changes to the MRC Committee and management. My own view is that a political conclusion will only occur when the Premier decides to knock some heads together, i.e. the heads being (1) the MRC and the Racing Industry and (2) the AFL and the Sports industry. Hopefully we come out the winner in that battle.

I fail to see how the Melbourne Racing Club has a dog in the race ( excuse the pun ). Surely they will be just a co- tenant and any problems that arise would be heard by the management (MRC, MFC, Mt Scopus, GOVT Steering Committee).

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Probably because there is not full agreement on everything that is involved in getting the project approved and completed.

I think that's right.

The business case (all going well) was only scheduled to be completed sometime in the second half of 2025.

At the AGM, the president gave an unambiguous statement that we are "closer than ever"

If you look at the chronology of recent events, I don't think there are grounds to get too pessimistic.

The MFC financial year ends 31 October. If there is no concrete agreement among all parties by then, the annual accounts can't say anything of substance. The accounts were then signed off by Brad Green and the auditors on the 21st of November.

That ties the new President's hands in terms of what he can say come the AGM on the 16th December.

It's frustrating, but let's not jump at shadows.


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