Players that need the most development

[McQueen 17,864]

2 hours ago, Laughing Goat said:

I'm with Ethan......can't see Jackson playing seniors for at least 2 years & although some say he can play forward, not sure hes going to tip Wiederman , T Mac, Petracca, Melksham, Hunt or a fit Vanders out of a spot. Throw in ANB & Goody's love child's Hannan & Spargo & the Dees just don't have the luxury & time to blood in 2020. 

Wins are a crucial for SG future.

I will take that wager Matt.

If we’ve spent pick 3 on a bloke who won’t play in the seniors for at least two years then I’d be thoroughly amazed. 
 

If you can’t see what Jackson has in terms of capabilities and then mesh it with an AFL program and deduce a set of possible outcomes that couldn’t see him play earlier rather than later, then well, we have plucked a guy that should’ve been a third rounder and we know that’s not the case. 

Edited January 2, 2020 by McQueen

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

I'm wanting three blokes to improve their delivery into the forward line by 25%

They are Oliver who gets the ball

ANB who gets the ball

and Hunt who gets the ball.

I'm considering these folk as our most important development. 

[picket fence 17,126]

If Spargo gets a game we will have gone backwards IMV. Unless he has remarkable improvement at CASEY I cant see him making it!

[DeeSpencer 25,631]

2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I don't think KK really needs development as much as he does to get over his concussion problems.  Unless you are talking about him learning to better position his body and be smarter about which balls to go for like Gus Brayshaw reportedly did post his concussion problems.

The title said development but the OP asked who are the least likely to play games and KK is one of 3 who at this stage I’m expecting no games from due to injury.

Everyone else has to be a chance. 

[rjay 24,910]

58 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The title said development but the OP asked who are the least likely to play games and KK is one of 3 who at this stage I’m expecting no games from due to injury.

Everyone else has to be a chance. 

No inside knowledge but going by the training reports & his history it wouldn't surprise to see KK retire either pre or early season.

[old dee 23,786]

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

If Spargo gets a game we will have gone backwards IMV. Unless he has remarkable improvement at CASEY I cant see him making it!

Don't worry pf he is in no danger of getting a game. To start with he is still not even training and then there is the small problem of talent.

[DeeSpencer 25,631]

Just now, old dee said:

Don't worry pf he is in no danger of getting a game. To start with he is still not even training and then there is the small problem of talent.

We also won two finals with him making a valuable contribution as a first year player so if he gets fit and healthy he could do that again. I hope he does. Before he became institutionalised with Melbourne stupidity he was a smart footballer.

[old dee 23,786]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We also won two finals with him making a valuable contribution as a first year player so if he gets fit and healthy he could do that again. I hope he does. Before he became institutionalised with Melbourne stupidity he was a smart footballer.

What is his chief talent DS?

Edited January 2, 2020 by old dee

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

What is his chief talent DS?

It was evident in his first year that Spargo has a very high footy IQ. He puts players into better positions. I have no idea what happened in his second year

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,227]

54 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

It was evident in his first year that Spargo has a very high footy IQ. He puts players into better positions. I have no idea what happened in his second year

He's too small, too slow and his tackles don't stick. 

[rjay 24,910]

1 hour ago, FarNorthernD said:

It was evident in his first year that Spargo has a very high footy IQ. He puts players into better positions. I have no idea what happened in his second year

 

14 minutes ago, bingers said:

He's too small, too slow and his tackles don't stick. 

I agree with both of these posts...

...he is small, average pace (too slow for his size) but has high footy IQ & is smart with & without the ball...

The tackles are the big negative for me. Opposition teams used it to advantage, he was their exit strategy.

He's useless to us if he can't fix this.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,806]

18 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

The title said development but the OP asked who are the least likely to play games and KK is one of 3 who at this stage I’m expecting no games from due to injury.

Everyone else has to be a chance. 

Understand.

Hope you are wrong, but I fear you are probably right.

[old dee 23,786]

14 hours ago, bingers said:

He's too small, too slow and his tackles don't stick. 

That about covers it bingers.

[binman 42,840]

On 1/2/2020 at 12:04 PM, The Chazz said:

I said at the start of last season the tif either Wagner, especially Corey, end up playing bulk amount of games, then we're in for a troubled year.

Think it was @dazzledavey36 that shot me down for calling Corey "depth at best".  I haven't changed my stance on this.

On Corey you're probably right. But I reckon he has got something and could be one of those players who goes up a level in a good team.

I'm keeping an open mind on him as I like his intensity. I'd be happy to wrong but I think his his bro has found his level and is likely to struggle to get a game this year.

[rjay 24,910]

1 hour ago, binman said:

On Corey you're probably right. But I reckon he has got something and could be one of those players who goes up a level in a good team.

I'm keeping an open mind on him as I like his intensity. I'd be happy to wrong but I think his his bro has found his level and is likely to struggle to get a game this year.

Corey does a lot right but just doesn't have the reaction time to make good decisions when the pressure is on.

You can just see his mind ticking over, good players get it right often, great players are freaks.

Will be handy depth...

[DeeSpencer 25,631]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Corey does a lot right but just doesn't have the reaction time to make good decisions when the pressure is on.

You can just see his mind ticking over, good players get it right often, great players are freaks.

Will be handy depth...

I agree, and whilst he's a good all round athlete he doesn't have the standout speed, size, strength or endurance to make up for it. 

If he really drilled the fundamental skills so he could move cleanly through traffic he could be a player but North clearly didn't think that was going to happen and I didn't see a lot of it last year. Nath Jones is still the only Melbourne player I've seen go from a sloppy mover - in Jones' case he was slow to react and cumbersome - to a smooth mover. Corey loves a fend off and scrambling kicks when caught in traffic. It works for him at VFL level but ends poorly against better opposition.

[Bay Riffin 1,474]

On 1/2/2020 at 5:29 PM, willmoy said:

I'm wanting three blokes to improve their delivery into the forward line by 25%

They are Oliver who gets the ball

ANB who gets the ball

and Hunt who gets the ball.

I'm considering these folk as our most important development. 

I think Oliver has the ability to improve that area, ANB perhaps but Hunt is our worst field kick and terrible by hand as well. Brayshaw is also on the list of those needing to improve dramatically.

[Bay Riffin 1,474]

On 1/2/2020 at 10:48 PM, DeeSpencer said:

We also won two finals with him making a valuable contribution as a first year player so if he gets fit and healthy he could do that again. I hope he does. Before he became institutionalised with Melbourne stupidity he was a smart footballer.

Spargo is one of our better users. but he doesn't get it enough.

[old dee 23,786]

1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said:

Spargo is one of our better users. but he doesn't get it enough.

A Jack Dyer quote comes to mind. Don't get where the ball ain't.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Spargo is too small, not fast enough and can’t kick very far but he sees the game better than most.

He has damaging decision making and football smarts.