In 2009 we have pick 1 & 2 but don’t interview Dustin Martin because of his dad’s links to bikies and the neck tattoos didn’t help.

Sydney Stack was overlooked by everyone until Dimma asked him to live with their family and ends up selecting him. He knocks out Viney in one of his first games and nearly wins the rising star.

Marlion Pickett is one of the best footballers in the country but gets over looked by everyone because he has been to jail.

Richmond will be the best team of the decade. Perhaps we should look at the best player, back our culture and not worry so much about their background.

Just now, Wrecker45 said:

In 2009 we have pick 1 & 2 but don’t interview Dustin Martin because of his dad’s links to bikies and the neck tattoos didn’t help.

Sydney Stack was overlooked by everyone until Dimma asked him to live with their family and ends up selecting him. He knocks out Viney in one of his first games and nearly wins the rising star.

Marlion Pickett is one of the best footballers in the country but gets over looked by everyone because he has been to jail.

Richmond will be the best team of the decade. Perhaps we should look at the best player, back our culture and not worry so much about their background.

Liam Jurrah says hello

1 minute ago, Wrecker45 said:

In 2009 we have pick 1 & 2 but don’t interview Dustin Martin because of his dad’s links to bikies and the neck tattoos didn’t help.

Sydney Stack was overlooked by everyone until Dimma asked him to live with their family and ends up selecting him. He knocks out Viney in one of his first games and nearly wins the rising star.

Marlion Pickett is one of the best footballers in the country but gets over looked by everyone because he has been to jail.

Richmond will be the best team of the decade. Perhaps we should look at the best player, back our culture and not worry so much about their background.

Imagine a poor young bloke living with Goodwin.

Just now, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Liam Jurrah says hello

He went to jail after we drafted him.

2 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Imagine a poor young bloke living with Goodwin.

Would get bored to tears

Martin didn't get the neck tattoos until after he was drafted.

2 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Would get bored to tears

Next thing the poor young bloke would be scratching his left leg every minute and answering ummm to everything.

1 minute ago, Sorry kids said:

Next thing the poor young bloke would be scratching his left leg every minute and answering ummm to everything.

Would be taken on a serious journey throughout his stay

Yay, another thread turns into Goodwin bashing.  Pity the No D!ckheads rule doesn't apply to this site.

2 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Yay, another thread turns into Goodwin bashing.  Pity the No D!ckheads rule doesn't apply to this site.

It's all in a bit of jest mate, would recommend taking most of what gets said on here with a grain of salt

44 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Martin didn't get the neck tattoos until after he was drafted.

My mistake, it doesn’t change the fact we were worried about the problems associated with him rather than his footballing ability which is the point of the thread.

I get where you're coming from Wrecker and it's a valid topic, but I'm not sure if that info about Martin is fact, opinion or myth.

Also, there must come a point where a person's character would wreck a club and its culture, regardless of their footballing ability.  In the end, I guess it's a balancing act and an inexact science like all aspects of recruiting and drafting.

Interesting topic

Neil Balme on 3AW this morning spoke about support and the notion of 'team' - they have set their culture in such a way that everyone knows their role and will be supported to do it properly

Let's not forget that Dusty shopped himself around a bit and that Mark Williams was shadowing him everywhere 

Anyhoo, it's a balancing act - I don't like robotic players....I prefer flair and fun

Petracca is a classic example of someone who prefers relationships over structure

1 hour ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

It's all in a bit of jest mate, would recommend taking most of what gets said on here with a grain of salt

Dear me, unfortunately some are serious

29 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Dear me, unfortunately some are serious

True

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Interesting topic

Neil Balme on 3AW this morning spoke about support and the notion of 'team' - they have set their culture in such a way that everyone knows their role and will be supported to do it properly

Let's not forget that Dusty shopped himself around a bit and that Mark Williams was shadowing him everywhere 

Anyhoo, it's a balancing act - I don't like robotic players....I prefer flair and fun

Petracca is a classic example of someone who prefers relationships over structure

Yep. Balme was like that at Melbourne until Gutnick booted him out on Radio ? 

Balme will never come near this Club again, even though he still has strong relationships with “his” players. 

3 hours ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Liam Jurrah says hello

Liam was from a quite unique background  and it was only when he was unfortunately injured and returned to his dysfunctional community that he “went astray”. 

One can only speculate what he could have achieved without that happening - interestingly Sean Charles suffered a very similar problem when he had a wrist injury, though not as serious of course as criminal proceedings and jail. 

(And of course $cully and Trengove are far more upstanding fine gentlemanly chaps than Mr ?. )

3 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

My mistake, it doesn’t change the fact we were worried about the problems associated with him rather than his footballing ability which is the point of the thread.

His football ability was rated below that of Trengove and Scully.  I would be surprised if you could find any source from 2009 that rated Martin as the best player in that draft pool.

Scully and Trengove were the consensus picks to that same extent as Rowell and Anderson are this year.

13 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

His football ability was rated below that of Trengove and Scully.  I would be surprised if you could find any source from 2009 that rated Martin as the best player in that draft pool.

Scully and Trengove were the consensus picks to that same extent as Rowell and Anderson are this year.

No they weren’t. Scully was always highly rated, Trengove came shooting up after a final in the SANFL.

 

They were the consensus 1 and 2.

Martin was never in the conversation.

12 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

They were the consensus 1 and 2.

Yep and we got both of them and the rest is history

1 minute ago, jumbo returns said:

Yep and we got both of them and the rest is history

Exactly; no point rewriting it.

Richmond were filthy that they were missing out on Scully (a Richmond fan) due to Melbourne’s perceived tanking.  If the Tigers had pick one, they were 100% not taking Dustin Martin.

AFL/VFL history is full of high draft picks who crashed, low draft picks which turned into million dollar footballers. There is no magic formula. Some dudes on this site seem to thrive on featuring Melbourne's draft pick mistakes: as though other teams don't make the same mistakes, as though other teams are not at the mercy of lady luck.

5 hours ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

Would be taken on a serious journey throughout his stay

Yeah, but just imagine the learnings.

For every Dustin Martin there's a Harley Bennell.