Splitting Draft Pick 3

[Moonshadow 17,579]

Just now, Dees247 said:

Where do we get the picks from though?

Good question. Not sure.

There's today and tomorrow for player trades, and then pick swaps can be traded up to Nov 22 (and again on draft night). It's possible the first 15 picks might change in order up til then.

I like your thinking though.

[Demon3 2,541]

If we dont take what we dont have and its available at 3 then we are silly. Young is the one we cant afford to miss out on a skillful and quick player. I will be really flat if we dont go with him.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

There appears to be some very handy 'prospects' in the early parts of this draft.  We get a swing at two if we split but IF we do we more than likely miss Serong who looks likely to go early (3 or 4?).  'Appears' on paper to be exactly what we need on the small forward front but like most of these options i'm only going on scouting reports or highlight vids.

Lower down there still appears to be some juicy morsels presenting themselves.

This is just my take on some of the stand outs.

The number in parenthesis is the latest ranking of the draft prospect courtesy of https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/category/power-rankings/ effective as at 7 Oct.

Not splitting the pick

??  Caleb Serong, Gippsland Power (3) - Small forward / Mid  B'day 9/2/2001 , 178cm / 83kg

Splitting the pick interests, say 6 down assuming we land a 6 with a mid 20s (approx) and Green is off the table (GWS) and we aren't looking at Flanders (another inside Mid)...

??  Dylan Stephens, Norwood (8) - Balanced Mid.  B'day 8/1/2001 , 182cm / 70 kg (Silk & Speed!).

??  Miles Bergman, Sandringham Dragons (17) - Mid/Forward.  B'day 18/10/2001 , 188cm / 77kg (the next Howe or Birdman?  Likes a goal from anywhere apparently).

??  Cameron Taheny, Norwood (22) - Medium Forward.  B'day 3/8/2001 , 184cm / 80kg (probably too small for our needs and we have similar with Melk but guy can time his leads beautifully and a solid overhead mark.  Looks to be very accurate in front also!).

Smokey Replacements for missing Serong if we split assuming we are targeting a small forward...

??  Cody Weightman, Dandy Stingrays (28) - Small Forward , B'day 15/01/2001 , 177cm / 73kg

??  Trent Bianco,  Oakleigh Chargers Captain (14) - Outside Mid.  B'day 20/01/2001 , 176cm / 70kg.

P.S.  just saw the rumour on Norf giving us pick 8 for 26 and a first rounder from 2020.  If so...the ideal for me is Serong @ 3 & Stephens @ 8!!!

I would not trade those picks ... stay in the draft!

Edited October 15, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[deanox 9,791]

Could now trade 3 to St K for 12 and 18?

Is 8, 12 and 18 is better than 3, 26, 50 and ~16-24 in 2020?

[Moonshadow 17,579]

3 and 8 in this draft, from new reports.

Next years 1st to Norf, plus this year 26 and 50

[Lord Travis 10,527]

I love the idea of trading into the first round of this year draft. next years draft is compromised. 
 

But why are giving up 26 and 50 as well? Seems lopsided. Surely we don’t give it all up for 8. 

 

[whatwhat say what 22,321]

massive overs for pick 8

[PaulRB 6,305]

1 minute ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

massive overs for pick 8

Massively premature to state that now.

[Demon Disciple 11,830]

Taylor must either really love someone and will reach for them @ 8, or we're happy to see who's left. Either that or bringing in a ready made player.

[faultydet 7,594]

Pick swaps can occur up to draft day.

The fact this has been done already suggests either us or Norf are looking to trade picks for players.

[whatwhat say what 22,321]

11 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Pick swaps can occur up to draft day.

The fact this has been done already suggests either us or Norf are looking to trade picks for players.

or to hold then to see what happens on draft day

again, no leaks from mfc re what our approach to trade / draft is

fantastic

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

21 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Pick swaps can occur up to draft day.

The fact this has been done already suggests either us or Norf are looking to trade picks for players.

True, but it also might just be so neither club gets cold feet. It's a brave trade for both clubs, best to do the deal now rather than agreeing now and waiting until draft night

[PaulRB 6,305]

How about 3 for Ben Brown..?

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

48 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

massive overs for pick 8

Heavily compromised draft in 2020 so our first rounder then is probably worth 10 spots later than it actually falls. 

so say it's 10 you're looking at it as 20, 26 and 50 for 8 in a MUCH stronger draft

[whatwhat say what 22,321]

1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Heavily compromised draft in 2020 so our first rounder then is probably worth 10 spots later than it actually falls. 

so say it's 10 you're looking at it as 20, 26 and 50 for 8 in a MUCH stronger draft

i've completely come around on it in the space of 30 minutes

it's bold and creative

hope it works!

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

1 minute ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i've completely come around on it in the space of 30 minutes

it's bold and creative

hope it works!

It's certainly bold. but i've personally been keen on swapping our 2020 pick for something this year, just because next year is nearly a write off.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,284]

At the end of the day, the pick value index is only relevant if you have academy/FS selections and is just a guide.

I'd much rather have 1 lower pick than 3 higher picks.

Of course this is all going to depend on next season......

[Mach5 4,722]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

I love the idea of trading into the first round of this year draft. next years draft is compromised. 
 

But why are giving up 26 and 50 as well? Seems lopsided. Surely we don’t give it all up for 8. 

 

 

59 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

massive overs for pick 8

 

It's all relative.

If it's a weaker draft after the first 2, and picks 3 to 20-odd are about the same, then the draft drops off again and gets weaker... then have we really given away a lot by handing off 26 and 50? Especially if our 3rd pick is aimed at a late smoky.

And again, the first pick for next year, even if our eventual ladder position ends up making it pick 8 like this year, is actually worth less next year. Safe to say we wouldn't be getting the 8th best player in the draft in 2020.

And with the academy bidding, don't forget that it devalues early picks, but conversely increases the value of later picks, as picks in later rounds evaporate as points are needed for early bids. Suddenly pick 42 becomes pick 36, etc. If there really are that many academy selections, it could mean pick 42 becomes pick 30. Not a bad year to trade our way to the tail end of the draft.

[djr 1,377]

jenkins just been picked up by GWS. Seems a little odd unless a GWS key forward is about to be traded?

[whatwhat say what 22,321]

2 minutes ago, djr said:

jenkins just been picked up by GWS. Seems a little odd unless a GWS key forward is about to be traded?

back-up for the back-ups for their main targets??

i thought it was sauce joining sausage at gw$ from the crows...

[Ted Lasso 18,914]

Hopefully the Jenkins signing means pick 6 and Finlayson just got traded to Melbourne for 3 

[Mach5 4,722]

8 minutes ago, djr said:

jenkins just been picked up by GWS. Seems a little odd unless a GWS key forward is about to be traded?

Jenkins or Sauce Jacobs?

[PaulRB 6,305]

1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Hopefully the Jenkins signing means pick 6 and Finlayson just got traded to Melbourne for 3 

Nailed it.

[Superunknown 4,164]

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

There appears to be some very handy 'prospects' in the early parts of this draft.  We get a swing at two if we split but IF we do we more than likely miss Serong who looks likely to go early (3 or 4?).  'Appears' on paper to be exactly what we need on the small forward front but like most of these options i'm only going on scouting reports or highlight vids.

Lower down there still appears to be some juicy morsels presenting themselves.

This is just my take on some of the stand outs.

The number in parenthesis is the latest ranking of the draft prospect courtesy of https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/category/power-rankings/ effective as at 7 Oct.

Not splitting the pick

??  Caleb Serong, Gippsland Power (3) - Small forward / Mid  B'day 9/2/2001 , 178cm / 83kg

Splitting the pick interests, say 6 down assuming we land a 6 with a mid 20s (approx) and Green is off the table (GWS) and we aren't looking at Flanders (another inside Mid)...

??  Dylan Stephens, Norwood (8) - Balanced Mid.  B'day 8/1/2001 , 182cm / 70 kg (Silk & Speed!).

??  Miles Bergman, Sandringham Dragons (17) - Mid/Forward.  B'day 18/10/2001 , 188cm / 77kg (the next Howe or Birdman?  Likes a goal from anywhere apparently).

??  Cameron Taheny, Norwood (22) - Medium Forward.  B'day 3/8/2001 , 184cm / 80kg (probably too small for our needs and we have similar with Melk but guy can time his leads beautifully and a solid overhead mark.  Looks to be very accurate in front also!).

Smokey Replacements for missing Serong if we split assuming we are targeting a small forward...

??  Cody Weightman, Dandy Stingrays (28) - Small Forward , B'day 15/01/2001 , 177cm / 73kg

??  Trent Bianco,  Oakleigh Chargers Captain (14) - Outside Mid.  B'day 20/01/2001 , 176cm / 70kg.

P.S.  just saw the rumour on Norf giving us pick 8 for 26 and a first rounder from 2020.  If so...the ideal for me is Serong @ 3 & Stephens @ 8!!!

I would not trade those picks ... stay in the draft!

Crikey that makes me feel old

i remember in 1988 in grade 4 when I thought omg all the kids born now are so young!

 

[Demon3 2,541]

15 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Hopefully the Jenkins signing means pick 6 and Finlayson just got traded to Melbourne for 3 

Cant see anywhere Jenkins has gone to GWS?