Box Hill Hawks v Casey Demons - VFL Round 1

[dpositive 1,665]

23 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Its a repeat of what we see at Senior level.

- Too many players going for a contest, balls spills free, swept away by Hawks and delivered beautifully by foot

- Hawks can take a mark, we are devoid of players that can mark

- uncontested possessions we are being creamed

- players doing basic things wrong, like being on the wrong side of a contest, covering space not a man, short handballs to a manunder pressure. 

It's pretty demoralising watching this knowing that there is no-one other than maybe Stretch who will come into the senior side.

Our coaching staff at Demon HQ and Casey seem to be on the same page, it's just the wrong page.

Too true junior. It seems the same structures, the same patterns, the same intensity, the same skill levels.

Most disappointing.

Stretch at least showed he should step up, but perhaps he can't get a game coz he gets the ball and delivers it to a teammate, provides an option for teammates and can run and kick to advantage. Not our current style.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

If Smith could kick he might be a good player.

Maybe its time to try  tSmith,  in the back-half ?

1 hour ago, Drunkn167 said:

Don’t know whats going on with Keilty today I haven’t seen him play this bad in a long time.

Maybe, they don't want to get slaughtered in the senior team.  tis almost understandable,  'Dkn'.

[chookrat 4,247]

Did we win? 

[daisycutter 29,613]

1 minute ago, chookrat said:

Did we win? 

we [censored] it in

[Elegt 872]

Tom Sparrow poor draft choice Martin hore a baffling draft decision, why did we not draft Sam Collins? Would fit right in at FB for us, have over drafted inside mids and have no run now

Edited April 7, 2019 by Elegt
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[dazzledavey36 54,893]

The big thing for me was the tackling numbers of both Chandler and Bedford. 

I think it will get to a stage where once the season is completely out of our reach,  we will blood these two. Chandler especially was very very impressive with his smarts and composure with the footy. Bedford did a lot of unrewarded running and was ignored several times. But he showed zip and tackling pressure up field.

Some promising signs from both.

[Big_Dee 18]

Really liked Bedford and Chandler. I think with sparrow we give him much more time. He looked ok in round 1 AFL but expected more in vfl today, but the hawks were unreal 

[chook fowler 19,458]

39 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Maybe its time to try  tSmith,  in the back-half ?

Maybe, they don't want to get slaughtered in the senior team.  tis almost understandable,  'Dkn'.

No. Bull Smiths fielding kicking matches his goal kicking.

[Demons11 7,009]

1 hour ago, olisik said:

Good to see Gawn and Petracca smiling having a laugh on the sidelines. 

Go tell them they should be in a dark room sobbing.  

They are there supporting their mates. 

[chook fowler 19,458]

13 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Go tell them they should be in a dark room sobbing.  

They are there supporting their mates. 

Agree. Good to see that Trac was there.

[DV8 2,271]

10 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

No. Bull Smiths fielding kicking matches his goal kicking.

Plenty of players who wern't brilliant kicks, played back in defence, in the 80's and 90's.  

As a defender, when looking to kick to a teammate in space on the wing,  you only have to kick to advantage side of your teammate. IF that teammate is a god one on one player.  It was clearing the footy from scoring range. 

This is when our on-ballers earn they're pay.  Win the next contested stoppage and clearance.

 

I think tSmith would surely be better than either Frost or OMc,  as a defender . he is solid as Oak thru his trunk.  He has a Very low centre of gravity and hold his feet.   Has strong hands.

The typical old fashioned 3rd tall defender.  

 

A little like Ayres was... maybe a hybrid between Ayers and Brett Lovett.   This is what I'm visualising.

[DV8 2,271]

25 minutes ago, Big_Dee said:

Really liked Bedford and Chandler. I think with sparrow we give him much more time. He looked ok in round 1 AFL but expected more in vfl today, but the hawks were unreal 

I think once we get the side back into form,  that'll be the time for Sparrow to come back in for another crack.

Too much for a kid to play in a team in shambles.

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

59 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Makes @WERRIDEE “analysis” above look [censored] [censored] poor

I thought Chandler was a lot better than Bedford. He made things happen Bedford didn't do anything with his possessions. Surprised Maynard got 17 tackles. The rest I was right with.

Looks like it will be IN : PREUSS OUT: T.MAC (IF INJURED) O.MAC (IF NOT)

 

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

Maybe its time to try  tSmith,  in the back-half ?

It's worth a try. We have nothing down back and nothing up forward. Good to try something new.

[Redleg 40,907]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

we [censored] it in

We would have if we had kicked another 11 unanswered goals.

[rjay 24,919]

8 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Plenty of players who wern't brilliant kicks, played back in defence, in the 80's and 90's.  

As a defender, when looking to kick to a teammate in space on the wing,  you only have to kick to advantage side of your teammate. IF that teammate is a god one on one player.  It was clearing the footy from scoring range. 

This is when our on-ballers earn they're pay.  Win the next contested stoppage and clearance.

 

I think tSmith would surely be better than either Frost or OMc,  as a defender . he is solid as Oak thru his trunk.  He has a Very low centre of gravity and hold his feet.   Has strong hands.

The typical old fashioned 3rd tall defender.  

 

A little like Ayres was... maybe a hybrid between Ayers and Brett Lovett.   This is what I'm visualising.

We're not playing in the 80's and 90's now 'DV8', a defender who can't kick is a total liability these days.

...by the way Ayres is a legend, they don't just grow on trees.

Lovett is a Dee legend, they grow on the odd tree.

No matter how much you visualise Smith is never going to be in the ball park of these 2....

 

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

42 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Tom Sparrow poor draft choice Martin hore a baffling draft decision, why did we not draft Sam Collins? Would fit right in at FB for us, have over drafted inside mids and have no run now

They were obsessed with finding a replacement for Lever. It's backfired Hore is not a footballers [censored]. Too early to tell with Sparrow yet.

[Redleg 40,907]

9 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I thought Chandler was a lot better than Bedford. He made things happen Bedford didn't do anything with his possessions. Surprised Maynard got 17 tackles. The rest I was right with.

Looks like it will be IN : PREUSS OUT: T.MAC (IF INJURED) O.MAC (IF NOT)

 

Chandler showed a bit.

Bedford is very slight but has talent and may need some time.

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

1 hour ago, Adzman said:

Been hard to watch on TV. Not too many winners out there for Casey.

Chandler is interesting, will see what the next few weeks look like. Maybe we have found a player in Chandler.

Stretch plays against the Swans.

I hate to say it but I don't think the club is going to find it too hard to open up list spots ahead of next season. 

I said in a thread that we would have 11 spots open. It could be 13 if Baker and Petty don't pull their finger out.

[Redleg 40,907]

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

They were obsessed with finding a replacement for Lever. It's backfired Hore is not a footballers [censored]. Too early to tell with Sparrow yet.

Don’t know about his stats but agree I thought Hore looked ordinary and not AFL standard.

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,658]

Pruess was obv being held for thurs night.

 

Maynard was absolutely terrific in a woeful overall effort, Chandler & Bedford also impressed me, but both are just so so slight. Stretch and Maynard must be in’s for next week with concern being turnaround time.

Baker was quiet but has had no prep but pace is still quite something. Smith also looked good despite his field kicking - for me his hands mean he will be an inc once match fit, Joel Smith ahead but thanks to a JLT game he was put back into for [censored] knows why he’s out.

 

All MFC players there in crowd, TMac didn’t look sore but who knows, Oliver and Salem both talked about how bad fri was and how much better we were against cats which I found a little off putting in a 80pt loss tells me Clarry still being young really just refers to his own performances I suspect even though he says “we” - Heard Brendan Mc say few interesting things, seems coaches blv it’s 100% attitude and lack of following instruction defensively. 

Maynard 27 touches and looked a cut above all other mids, even delivery was good. Chandler had 17 kicked 2 and loads of pressure acts, Bedford looked good but still while away I think.

[dazzledavey36 54,893]

6 minutes ago, Nudge said:

Pruess was obv being held for thurs night.

 

Maynard was absolutely terrific in a woeful overall effort, Chandler & Bedford also impressed me, but both are just so so slight. Stretch and Maynard must be in’s for next week with concern being turnaround time.

Baker was quiet but has had no prep but pace is still quite something. Smith also looked good despite his field kicking - for me his hands mean he will be an inc once match fit, Joel Smith ahead but thanks to a JLT game he was put back into for [censored] knows why he’s out.

 

All MFC players there in crowd, TMac didn’t look sore but who knows, Oliver and Salem both talked about how bad fri was and how much better we were against cats which I found a little off putting in a 80pt loss tells me Clarry still being young really just refers to his own performances I suspect even though he says “we” - Heard Brendan Mc say few interesting things, seems coaches blv it’s 100% attitude and lack of following instruction defensively. 

Maynard 27 touches and looked a cut above all other mids, even delivery was good. Chandler had 17 kicked 2 and loads of pressure acts, Bedford looked good but still while away I think.

What were they??

[chook fowler 19,458]

17 tackles by Maynard - that must put him in contention 

[WERRIDEE 5,478]

Just now, chook fowler said:

17 tackles by Maynard - that must put him in contention 

Another slow inside mid that does nothing with the ball. That's all we need.

[chook fowler 19,458]

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

Another slow inside mid that does nothing with the ball. That's all we need.

Must be better than Nibbler.