There is some disturbing stuff in that article. Good on him for having a goal and doing everything he can to achieve it, but you wonder how he will cope if footy is taken away from him for some reason (injury, illness, not good enough, etc). That kind of behaviour only comes from over bearing parents, and rarely ends well.

He and his Dad Nick are rusted on Hawks.

His Dad inherited The House of Golf business. 

Anyone remember The House of Golf ad 10 years ago when a skinny blond bloke was looking up from a deep bunker ?  His Dad.  The ad was played on loop. 

My Boy played at East Malvern Knights with Bailey when he was about 8.  Even then Bailey was fast and strong.  Although I thought his skills lacked a bit of polish.  I'm probably a hard marker. 

I reckon an interstate club should be nervous about taking Smith.  Who knows when, but I reckon he's a monty to come back at some stage.  Probably to his beloved Hawks.

1 minute ago, ProDee said:

He and his Dad Nick are rusted on Hawks.

His Dad inherited The House of Golf business. 

Anyone remember The House of Golf ad 10 years ago when a skinny blond bloke was looking up from a deep bunker ?  His Dad.  The ad was played on loop. 

My Boy played at East Malvern Knights with Bailey when he was about 8.  Even then Bailey was fast and strong.  Although I thought his skills lacked a bit of polish.  I'm probably a hard marker. 

I reckon an interstate club should be nervous about taking Smith.  Who knows when, but I reckon he's a monty to come back at some stage.  Probably to his beloved Hawks.

Chris Judd used to turn up to his junior games for East Sandy wearing the Melbourne jumper with #3 on the back.

When he came back to play in Victoria, he chose ...

Just now, The Great Pretender said:

Chris Judd used to turn up to his junior games for East Sandy wearing the Melbourne jumper with #3 on the back.

When he came back to play in Victoria, he chose ...

Don't know what I'd do without you. 

Thanks

Just now, ProDee said:

Don't know what I'd do without you. 

Thanks

You’re very welcome.

On 11/8/2018 at 11:09 PM, DeeSpencer said:

I get the no alcohol thing, that's fine. Good for him. I know most kids have had plenty of drinks by 15 yet alone 18 but some haven't and if he's that committed to his footy then I kind of get that you'd go why even have a first drink? Can't miss what you've never had. There's plenty of other ways to unwind.

The obsessive training concerns me. Especially the obsessive training with the dad, he might not be actively pushing him but he's condoning it. Surely there's a point of diminishing returns where you're just running up miles on a young body? Maybe he's the next Brent Harvey and can go for ages but what if he's the next Chris Judd who's body wasn't the same after about 25 and was pretty much done after 30? 

The obsessive diet concerns me even more and makes me worry he's not far from an eating disorder. He wouldn't be the first footballer. Weighing food and planning a diet is fine, but where's the harm in other people cooking for you or eating out at restaurants you trust? Combine that with the intermittent fasting and it's worrying behaviour. He's already drinking coffee every day - despite not liking it - to stay focused in school because his brain is crying out for some food! 

 

You most certainly can.

It's fine not to drink but just because you have one drink, doesn't mean you'll turn into a raging drunk. 

On 11/9/2018 at 4:34 PM, ProDee said:

He and his Dad Nick are rusted on Hawks.

His Dad inherited The House of Golf business. 

Anyone remember The House of Golf ad 10 years ago when a skinny blond bloke was looking up from a deep bunker ?  His Dad.  The ad was played on loop. 

My Boy played at East Malvern Knights with Bailey when he was about 8.  Even then Bailey was fast and strong.  Although I thought his skills lacked a bit of polish.  I'm probably a hard marker. 

I reckon an interstate club should be nervous about taking Smith.  Who knows when, but I reckon he's a monty to come back at some stage.  Probably to his beloved Hawks.

You didn't play at the Knights yourself did you? That was my old club.

13 hours ago, A F said:

You most certainly can.

It's fine not to drink but just because you have one drink, doesn't mean you'll turn into a raging drunk. 

You didn't play at the Knights yourself did you? That was my old club.

Canterbury Nth Balwyn.

There is a fair bit of meh factor about this for me.  Clayton Oliver and Max Gawn were busy eating meat pies and left over pizza in their draft years and it hasn't exactly held them back.

Is it possible that this bloke is only outperforming his peers at U18 level due to his ultra proffesionalisim, only to be overtaken once they get on the same programs?  Maybe, maybe not.  Good luck to him, would be interesting to come back to this thread in a few years time to see how it has all panned out.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Canterbury Nth Balwyn.

Ah. No deal then. I also thought I might have coached your son at Lloyd Street, where we played in the same East Malvern footy jumpers.

On 11/8/2018 at 8:05 PM, Fifty-5 said:

Sounds dedicated.  I'm not sure I'd draft him, it would be hard to accommodate him culturally.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/miles-ahead-smith-s-discipline-sets-him-apart-20181107-p50elp.html

The Guy is a fruit loop. Stay away MFC wouldnt fit in, way to obsessive. Does he have any other interests other than footy?

Choir boy written all over him, He'll be laid out at the first go at asking, how is he going to develope an AFL body with that diet.

Maxy and Clarry would be giggling at all this.

Edited November 10, 20186 yr by Win4theAges

4 minutes ago, A F said:

Ah. No deal then. I also thought I might have coached your son at Lloyd Street, where we played in the same East Malvern footy jumpers.

He went to primary school around the corner at St Mary's (with Bailey Smith).

This guy sounds like he’s on a one way trip to a mental breakdown to me, but that’s 100% rank amateur psychology for me. He’ll have no trouble adjusting to the professional demands of AFL footy, but he’s going to be culturally different to most footy players. Who knows what effect that will have - he may end up a social outcast or he may be able to positively influence it, or it might not have any effect at all.

I don’t feel like any of us are in a position to tell how his fastidiousness will translate in to an AFL career, so I can’t conclude “steer clear!” or “get him!” like so many of you seem confident to do. It’ll be interesting to watch play out all the same.

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

He went to primary school around the corner at St Mary's (with Bailey Smith).

Ah yeah. Nice area.

I found that article about him troubling on a number of levels. OCD traits with high anxiety if you can take on face value what was written. I wish him well and hope he lands in a nurturing environment.

On 11/8/2018 at 11:09 PM, DeeSpencer said:

I get the no alcohol thing, that's fine. Good for him. I know most kids have had plenty of drinks by 15 yet alone 18 but some haven't and if he's that committed to his footy then I kind of get that you'd go why even have a first drink? Can't miss what you've never had. There's plenty of other ways to unwind.

The obsessive training concerns me. Especially the obsessive training with the dad, he might not be actively pushing him but he's condoning it. Surely there's a point of diminishing returns where you're just running up miles on a young body? Maybe he's the next Brent Harvey and can go for ages but what if he's the next Chris Judd who's body wasn't the same after about 25 and was pretty much done after 30? 

The obsessive diet concerns me even more and makes me worry he's not far from an eating disorder. He wouldn't be the first footballer. Weighing food and planning a diet is fine, but where's the harm in other people cooking for you or eating out at restaurants you trust? Combine that with the intermittent fasting and it's worrying behaviour. He's already drinking coffee every day - despite not liking it - to stay focused in school because his brain is crying out for some food! 

 

Have you tried intermittent fasting?

23 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Have you tried intermittent fasting?

No I haven't. But I'm very suspicious of the idea that an 18 year old shouldn't eat until after 2pm. I get the point of fasted cardio before school, but what's wrong with breakfast at 8:30 before class, lunch at lunch time and dinner at dinner time!

This kid should board at BBO's Romsey manor once drafted.

He'd be quaffing cheap shiraz and giving himself a jolly good flogging in no time at all.

17 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Have you tried intermittent fasting?

Fasting and intermittent fasting has been a dietary, health and religious habit for thousands of years.  

These days traditional medicine incorporates intermittent fasting as an aid to better health, think 5/7 diet. 

Western civilization would be healthier with longer lifespans if people incorporated fasting as part of their lifestyle.

Full-time sportspeople have to be sensible about it but it is sustainable particularly for weight reduction and management. In addition, there are many liquid supplements that provide protein and energy without the need for 3 meals a day.    

It has great benefits managed in moderation.  

Edited November 12, 20186 yr by hemingway

Isn't this kid meant to go top 10, if so he ain't coming to us.

On 11/9/2018 at 4:37 PM, The Great Pretender said:

Chris Judd used to turn up to his junior games for East Sandy wearing the Melbourne jumper with #3 on the back.

When he came back to play in Victoria, he chose ...

Scully had $$ on his back...