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2 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Got a quote of where he said that?

At the start of trade week.

 
11 minutes ago, dl4e said:

At the start of trade week.

That is not a quote.

Are your sure it's not

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Talk of these trades is media speculation and nothing more

 

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2 minutes ago, dl4e said:

At the start of trade week.

I don't know that he ever directly said that. Wasn't it reported by the media as the price and attributed to him? He did say something about the price being one of the biggest ever paid.

 

I think it’s telling that the media chatter has moved on from Hogan, I feel like if the deal was still on the cards there’d be mentions of it but it appears to me that both clubs have moved on. 

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Too many players in limbo:  Neale, Hogan, May, KK and possibly Beames (Lions won't let him go if they don't get Neale).

Freo causing quite a log jam so something needs to happen soon. 

Anyone ready to guess when the AFL will get involved and kick Freo into gear or call in the mediators for the Neale and Hogan trades. 

That 'kick into gear' is well overdue - the Freo brains trust considers itself uniquely superior, obviously; so superior that is almost infringing on the flexibility of the trade protocols. Two nights, then the gun.


3 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I don't know that he ever directly said that. Wasn't it reported by the media as the price and attributed to him? He did say something about the price being one of the biggest ever paid.

Maybe I shouldn't have used the Mahoney but I am sure that was the MFCs approach. For some reason I am sure I saw him say it on the box in one of those 10 second clips they have or my brain is becoming frayed.

2 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

That 'kick into gear' is well overdue - the Freo brains trust considers itself uniquely superior, obviously; so superior that is almost infringing on the flexibility of the trade protocols. Two nights, then the gun.

 

I'm guessing Josh carrying a knife won't be enough.

16 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

 

This actually movement, it will be helpful to get this done.

If it's 11 for Lobb + 25, Freo may offer us 5 + 25 which is close enough to 5 + 23 for me

If it's 11 for Lobb + 43 who knows what might happen.

 

5 minutes ago, dl4e said:

23 or 25 are not first rounders. Mahoney said 2 first rounders at the start of trade week. Talk of these trades is media speculation and nothing more. Wasting pick 5 on May is ridiculous.

Yeah, I don't know why people have softened so much on this. Is it because "someone" leaked that we'd take 6 and 23? Because I sure as hell don't want to accept that, especially if the 6 has to go to Gold Coast.

2 first round picks is the price. That's what we paid to get him before putting in 6 year of development. He hasn't gotten any worse.

For those of you forgetting, 3 and 13 is what we paid for Jesse. A season before he could even play for us:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/three-win-in-minidraft-20121009-27bbk.html

 
1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

It’s all being set up for the live telecast on Wednesday 

All deals will have been signed off and will simply be ratified on the live telecast

Whole thing is so tedious 

Your thinking, wwsw, is possibly that of a realist.

2 minutes ago, DTJ said:

 

Yeah, I don't know why people have softened so much on this. Is it because "someone" leaked that we'd take 6 and 23? Because I sure as hell don't want to accept that, especially if the 6 has to go to Gold Coast.

2 first round picks is the price. That's what we paid to get him before putting in 6 year of development. He hasn't gotten any worse.

For those of you forgetting, 3 and 13 is what we paid for Jesse. A season before he could even play for us:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/three-win-in-minidraft-20121009-27bbk.html

No, we paid 3 and a downgrade of 13 to 20. We got pick 20 back in that trade.


37 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Good. I hope he does. I watched Hogan as a junior and immediately knew he was the best key back since Hurley. Currently we are screaming out for a key back. The answer is slapping us right in the face.

We need him to make our backline great.

3 minutes ago, DTJ said:

 

Yeah, I don't know why people have softened so much on this. Is it because "someone" leaked that we'd take 6 and 23? Because I sure as hell don't want to accept that, especially if the 6 has to go to Gold Coast.

2 first round picks is the price. That's what we paid to get him before putting in 6 year of development. He hasn't gotten any worse.

For those of you forgetting, 3 and 13 is what we paid for Jesse. A season before he could even play for us:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/three-win-in-minidraft-20121009-27bbk.html

As the sun sets on Freo's pre-Christmas extravaganza, it will not matter who they elect to get, at bargain prices, and who they eventually receive. It just ain't going to do them any good; their whole outfit is in shambles at present and recuperation is so far away that they'd waste the careers of any new blood to their lists. 

SEN saying (Tom morris on Fox) saying hogan deal worth $8 mil over 8 years ??!!

Here's one article.

And another.

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 If you stack up a 23-year-old key forward and everything he’s done over his career stacks up against everyone so we think he’s right up with the highest anyone’s been traded for and we think Fremantle might have that opportunity with picks they may gain,

And another.

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Basically, if Fremantle want to get Jesse Hogan, they know the deal they have to give for us and Jesse's aware of that.

They haven't spoken to us about anything that entertains us at all about doing a deal.

...

At the moment the moment the offer they're giving to us doesn’t help us in any way.

And what he actually said...


9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No, we paid 3 and a downgrade of 13 to 20. We got pick 20 back in that trade.

3 & 20 is significantly better than 5 & 23 or 5 & 25, especially as we have developed him over 6 years

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No, we paid 3 and a downgrade of 13 to 20. We got pick 20 back in that trade.

Right, the point is we gave up two first round picks. I'd take 5 and 11 and give them back change too. 

Jesse'd be on money that puts him next to Fyfe on their list. What would they ask for him, what would we be willing to pay?

1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

SEN saying (Tom morris on Fox) saying hogan deal worth $8 mil over 8 years ??!!

good 'ol tommy - take it to the bank

that would only push up his trade value

12 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

SEN saying (Tom morris on Fox) saying hogan deal worth $8 mil over 8 years ??!!

$1m pa is pretty standard for a top forward.  An with inflation it won't be much in years 6-8.

But 8 years!!  Can't be too much wrong with his foot!! 

Edit:  Update: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-jesse-hogans-large-contract-demands-contributed-to-fremantle-rejecting-melbournes-trade-offer/news-story/578fbad1c64f774a808b80e3b8707900

JESSE Hogan’s camp asked Fremantle for an $8 million deal over eight years before the Dockers emphatically rejected Melbourne’s trade offer.

Fremantle was prepared to consider a three or four-season contract, but considered eight years as a leap of faith too far.

"...the Dockers spent significant time weighing up whether Hogan was worth it all. In the end, he wasn’t and the club’s statement was not a bluff".

A Hogan trade is not dead in the water, but it appears Melbourne will have to buckle first.

 

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8 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

me either @GCDee

but it seems that this is where it sits

from my perspective i wanted 5 and 6 for hogan

instead we're losing him for...not a great deal

I agree,but It's all relative to a Clubs needs.Simply put it sounds so 1 sided but depends if your club has strength in certain areas.For instance we are strong in the Midfield so we would value a mid at lower than a quality CHB or FB.Freo dont want to give up a quality mid for a Forward who wont see the ball without the traded mid.Hogan isnt worth much to a team that struggles to get the ball inside their F50


2 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

SEN saying (Tom morris on Fox) saying hogan deal worth $8 mil over 8 years ??!!

If they're willing to pay 8 over 8 (and considering the source [TM not you Demented] I have some doubts) then how can they not give up two first rounders.

Can't have your cake * and eat it too.

*not permission to start talking about cakes.

2 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

3 & 20 is significantly better than 5 & 23 or 5 & 25, especially as we have developed him over 6 years

Don't forget Dom "Steakknives" Barry.

 
1 minute ago, Demonland said:

*not permission to start talking about cakes.

Not even a nice baked cheesecake with whipped cream and berries on top?


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