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It is his first year but i like what i see off him. He reads the ball well in the air and can take a grab. He seems quick as well. Another solid preseason we should know where he fits in. 

 

Agree, looks really good marks well, kicks it OK bit of Strength work and could see him early next season whilst we wait on Lever to return

 

His debut was an absolute shambles...

Unfortunately for us, as good as Frosty/Oscar have been, they were shown up in finals - they are not known for their disposal and when the pressure was on (first half) they absolutely torched it.

We should be throwing everything we have at Steven May, but it is pretty much a done deal with the Pies. I know Steven quite well and in speaking to him (to quote him "you know I can't say anything") in my response to him watching the pies/tigers final and whether he liked the look of his new team


What we need is a tough defender that plays tight contested footy and has an intensity to burn. Apart from Nev, I don't think we have one. Oscar is improving but does not seem to have that intensity or desperation. At times, he appears strangely detached.

Petty is similar. Like Oscar he is a young guy that will continue to improve but he is not a tough nut that's going to put the fear of god into his opponent.  

In short, I would like to see us acquire another defender who brings that hard nosed belligerent attitude to our back half. 

Nice kick, uses both hands to get out of trouble well, good agility and excellent intercept marker who can read the flight and jump at the ball very nicely.

He doesn't seem to have a lot of straight line speed and I'm not convinced about his one on one defensive skills, so there's plenty of room to improve but at least he has the standout traits.

I wonder if he will be suited to where the game is going if he can plonk at CHB and be an interceptor, he looked like McGovern in the first half yesterday. I think he had at least 1 if not 2 clean grabs not paid and took a number of others.

My concern is the game only gets quicker and the intercept markers get found out a bit if they can't close one on one. There also has to be a bit of question mark on whether Petty and Lever have similar skill sets and somewhat fight each other for the CHB spot or interceptor role.

Who knows though, a couple of preseasons working on his speed and strength and he might cover the ground really well and become a valuable player. I'm certainly excited to see him develop.

 
3 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Are we getting excited about a Casey quality player, are we?

How's Maynard going? Wasn't he this year's hope?

Thats comparing a talented 18 year old first year key defender vs a 27 year old mid.

 

 

Realistically there really isn't much at Casey to look forward to but at least one can say with Petty that he has not ruled himself out yet.

The one caveat I would add is that VFL standard is so far removed from AFL standard for so many reasons it is not possible to say that one leads to the other or vice versa.

For instance Brayshaw played well at VFL standard early in 2018 and then absolutely starred at AFL level. Why I'm not sure but to my simple mind he seemed to find more space and he had team mates who were capable of delivering the ball to him by hand and foot in that space.


50 minutes ago, hemingway said:

What we need is a tough defender that plays tight contested footy and has an intensity to burn. Apart from Nev, I don't think we have one. Oscar is improving but does not seem to have that intensity or desperation. At times, he appears strangely detached.

Petty is similar. Like Oscar he is a young guy that will continue to improve but he is not a tough nut that's going to put the fear of god into his opponent.  

In short, I would like to see us acquire another defender who brings that hard nosed belligerent attitude to our back half. 

Zero intensity or physical pressure. Turning circle of the Queen Mary.

He is not the reason we lost by the way but when things aren't working for us in the midfield we need to have a defender that can defend one on one and it ain't Oscar.

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Zero intensity or physical pressure. Turning circle of the Queen Mary.

He is not the reason we lost by the way but when things aren't working for us in the midfield we need to have a defender that can defend one on one and it ain't Oscar.

Lever coming back will make a huge difference but agree we need a tough nut who is quick in body and mind and able to go one on one or has the speed to get back, like Lever.  

20 hours ago, hemingway said:

What we need is a tough defender that plays tight contested footy and has an intensity to burn. Apart from Nev, I don't think we have one. Oscar is improving but does not seem to have that intensity or desperation. At times, he appears strangely detached.

Petty is similar. Like Oscar he is a young guy that will continue to improve but he is not a tough nut that's going to put the fear of god into his opponent.  

In short, I would like to see us acquire another defender who brings that hard nosed belligerent attitude to our back half. 

H Petty is no David Neitz playing as an 18 yro at CH Back and starring. However he looks the goods, Can mark  is steady and precise with his skills. He is a big boy and can run. The circumstances in his first game  he was given  a hard role to play with beside Joel Smith which l don't rate and alongside OMac not much experience to take the game on or switch play to launch an attack from the back line against ST Kilda which we lost that game by a very small margin. Petty was given the wrong game to make his debut which wasn't helped by his 2 team mates.

3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Thats comparing a talented 18 year old first year key defender vs a 27 year old mid.

 

 

Casey talented?


13 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Casey talented?

A bit like Weed talented.

Give him some time 'jumbo'...

He's got something to work with.

 

1 minute ago, rjay said:

A bit like Weed talented.

Give him some time 'jumbo'...

He's got something to work with.

 

definitely, rjay

  • still only 18 (19 in nov)
  • v. good size at 197cm (still to bulk up)
  • showed plenty of glimpses of real talent, even if inconsistent
  • better first year than weid
  • big man development time type
  • more than a pass mark
39 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Casey talented?

No, AFL talented.  He had a fantastic debut season for Casey and we got a draft steal.

 

The 194cm backman enjoyed a strong 2017 season, and was named South Australia's most valuable player at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. He also won All Australian honours for his efforts at the carnival.

Some clubs rate Petty as one of the best tall defenders available at the draft, with his strong overhead presence and good rebound making him a contender to break into the latter stages of the first round or early in the second round when names are called.

25 minutes ago, rjay said:

A bit like Weed talented.

Give him some time 'jumbo'...

He's got something to work with.

 

I will, rjay - but, fmd, these false dawns give me the [censored]

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

H Petty is no David Neitz playing as an 18 yro at CH Back and starring. However he looks the goods, Can mark  is steady and precise with his skills. He is a big boy and can run. The circumstances in his first game  he was given  a hard role to play with beside Joel Smith which l don't rate and alongside OMac not much experience to take the game on or switch play to launch an attack from the back line against ST Kilda which we lost that game by a very small margin. Petty was given the wrong game to make his debut which wasn't helped by his 2 team mates.

Agree with all your comments, Soup. 

Like a young boy running towards the front line, he was sacrificed in his first game. He was our Paschal Lamb.

Like Oscar, my doubt is whether he brings that burning intensity or effort to the contest.

However, I accept your comments and hope that you can remind me next season of the error of my judgement.   


1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

No, AFL talented.  He had a fantastic debut season for Casey and we got a draft steal.

 

The 194cm backman enjoyed a strong 2017 season, and was named South Australia's most valuable player at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. He also won All Australian honours for his efforts at the carnival.

Some clubs rate Petty as one of the best tall defenders available at the draft, with his strong overhead presence and good rebound making him a contender to break into the latter stages of the first round or early in the second round when names are called.

Didn't the Toump win this title, too??

19 hours ago, hemingway said:

Agree with all your comments, Soup. 

Like a young boy running towards the front line, he was sacrificed in his first game. He was our Paschal Lamb.

Like Oscar, my doubt is whether he brings that burning intensity or effort to the contest.

However, I accept your comments and hope that you can remind me next season of the error of my judgement.   

Merely stating not disagreeing with you Hem, however not given the right opportunity just an 18 yo lamb thrown to the slaughter.

 

Jaheesus H 

If we are going into raptures about this bloke who is Glen Giles Mrk 2 we are in serious serious bother!

Not the answer I'm afraid!


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