POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 22

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On 8/20/2018 at 7:50 AM, President Dee Trump said:

Why?

Fake fighting?

Really?

 

This coming from the guy inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

11 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I dislike West Coast and I also think Adam Simpson is a very good coach. There's something satisfying about beating them that's rare for a non Victorian team.

The feeling is completely different isn't it. Beat Pies and youshout from the rooftops. Beat WC over there when they're second on the ladder... You almost don't know what to do. Your cup overflows. One of the biggest things is, it could be ten years before you do it again. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,291]

Roosy On the Couch highlighted the below Jones’ effort in the last quarter as a critical contest for us regaining the lead. The ‘ Toe Poke’!

Getting pushed by Yeo, Jones shows his determination by winning the ball any way possible. Controls the ball with his foot, picks it up, handballs to Gawn and the rest is history.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[SFebes 4,884]

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Roosy On the Couch highlighted the below Jones’ effort in the last quarter as a critical contest for us regaining the lead. The ‘ Toe Poke’!

Getting pushed by Yeo Jones shows his determination by winning the ball any way possible. Controls the ball with his foot, picks it and handballs to Gawn and the rest is history.

 

 

I'm critical of our older players and leaders, to his credit (Jones) he stood up well in the last 10mins after only having 4 kicks to half time from memory. What he did in the last 10 mins though is what should be expected of him each time we play the better teams, after all he is the captain. I thought he was quite poor before that but he needed to step up and did, so too Lewis. Jones' season has been sliding all year and hopefully he gets a chance to hold up the cup in appreciation of his loyalty. Still IMO an average player and poor leader but I'll be cheering him on in the next 6 weeks.

[DemonOX 8,837]

12 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Does this help?

 

Win.avi

 

I guess this thing doesn't play .avi's huh? 

Thanks for trying Ralph. 

[RalphiusMaximus 6,111]

17 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Thanks for trying Ralph. 

Pretty sure I can change the format when I get home. 

 

[frankie_d 1,471]

Just thought I'd mention Salem - his calmness and superb disposal is a huge plus for us. Kicked a beautiful right footer into the middle at a crucial moment, too.

[DubDee 26,459]

just read through a fair chunk of this thread, so awesome to hear/feel such happiness!  I still can't believe it.  ?

[DeeSpencer 26,555]

1 hour ago, SFebes said:

I'm critical of our older players and leaders, to his credit (Jones) he stood up well in the last 10mins after only having 4 kicks to half time from memory. What he did in the last 10 mins though is what should be expected of him each time we play the better teams, after all he is the captain. I thought he was quite poor before that but he needed to step up and did, so too Lewis. Jones' season has been sliding all year and hopefully he gets a chance to hold up the cup in appreciation of his loyalty. Still IMO an average player and poor leader but I'll be cheering him on in the next 6 weeks.

What a strange post. That graph seems to show that Jones is better now than he was in '15 and '16 and still better than he was to start 2017, or do we just ignore that?

Also the majority of the drop off has been since Jones started playing more time on the wing thanks to the emergence of Harmes and Brayshaw. Jones' first 5-10 weeks this year playing on ball due to Viney's injury was probably about as well as he's ever played. 

He's not the player he once was but still is way better than an average player, even with some limitations on his ball use and decision making as he adapts to a new role on the wing. Poor leader? Well that comes down to how much you can rate a leader when for years they've had little to work with. Jones was doing his utmost against Sydney and a few bad decisions aside he gave it his all. He was doing the same against the Eagles and the team was resilient and smart. The notion that the captain has to be best player is incredibly outdated. The captain has to be strong, smart and give their all, but they need leaders and players to stand up in every part of the ground. Luke Hodge used to win all the awards as best captain yet in close games most of the time it was Mitchell, Lewis or in particular Burgoyne who made the clutch plays.

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4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

What a strange post. That graph seems to show that Jones is better now than he was in '15 and '16 and still better than he was to start 2017, or do we just ignore that?

Also the majority of the drop off has been since Jones started playing more time on the wing thanks to the emergence of Harmes and Brayshaw. Jones' first 5-10 weeks this year playing on ball due to Viney's injury was probably about as well as he's ever played. 

He's not the player he once was but still is way better than an average player, even with some limitations on his ball use and decision making as he adapts to a new role on the wing. Poor leader? Well that comes down to how much you can rate a leader when for years they've had little to work with. Jones was doing his utmost against Sydney and a few bad decisions aside he gave it his all. He was doing the same against the Eagles and the team was resilient and smart. The notion that the captain has to be best player is incredibly outdated. The captain has to be strong, smart and give their all, but they need leaders and players to stand up in every part of the ground. Luke Hodge used to win all the awards as best captain yet in close games most of the time it was Mitchell, Lewis or in particular Burgoyne who made the clutch plays.

Well said DeeSpencer. This Nate Jones bashing has become very tiresome. The guy bleeds red and blue, he is a true club legend. The best part about Sunday was that vision of him at the final siren. It epitomised the feelings a lot of us have shared in this thread......pure joy.

[chook fowler 19,744]

6 hours ago, frankie_d said:

Just thought I'd mention Salem - his calmness and superb disposal is a huge plus for us. Kicked a beautiful right footer into the middle at a crucial moment, too.

Salem has had a fantastic year. Top 3 in our best and fairest is a possibility.

[Chook 15,032]

6 hours ago, frankie_d said:

Just thought I'd mention Salem - his calmness and superb disposal is a huge plus for us. Kicked a beautiful right footer into the middle at a crucial moment, too.

2nd best on ground for us in the last quarter. Milkshake won it, but Salem and Jetta stopped us from losing it.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

16 hours ago, Skuit said:

 

Even if we bomb out of the first round of the finals, we'll probably be touted as joint-premiership favourites next year by bookies and media alike - such is the unique nature of our team. And if we add Gaff . . .

 

Like how we were touted as the best Victorian team going into 2007.

[frankie_d 1,471]

On 8/21/2018 at 5:36 AM, demonique said:

The best part next season we will have more prime time matches being  the most dynamic and entertaining team around. 

Downside , members areas are going to be considerably more crowded with longer queues etc etc . With a flood of new premium members flocking  to get on our bandwagon .But I’ll take that with pleasure ! 

This is a non-trivial issue. Whilst I welcome my fellow Demonlanders and long-suffering MFCSS afflicted comrades, I do look askance when someone is sitting in the seat where I endured the Dark Years (© MFC) in silent and no-so-silent lonely suffering. "Where were you", I think to myself, "when Neeld gave Morton that huge spray"... "Where were you, indeed, when we 'didn't see that coming', and Essendon beat us by by five million points".

Just kidding - more the merrier - raise hell on Sunday!!!

[layzie 34,426]

19 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Salem has had a fantastic year. Top 3 in our best and fairest is a possibility.

He really has! Rarely drops under 85% eff. Under the radar.

[What 18,810]

19 hours ago, Chook said:

Salem has had a fantastic year. Top 3 in our best and fairest is a possibility.

He really has been very good.   Id like to see him get more touches than the 20 hes averaging, but the fact is that 20 Salem touches are more valuable than most other players that get 25-30 a game. He rarely wastes a kick.

And his toughness is underrated.  He is hard as nails.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Petraccattack

[DubDee 26,459]

has anyone seen the coaches votes from the game?

Gawn would have got 10 surely?

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,673]

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

has anyone seen the coaches votes from the game?

Gawn would have got 10 surely?

Not announced until end of season

[sue 9,249]

We would have won that game and now be in the finals if the players hadn't wimped out on that pre-season camp.