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Redleg
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I am sick to death of the crap being written about stats. 

There is only one thing that matters, as Jaded has said - WINS.

You can use stats to paint over faults, or gloss over failure.

At the end of the day I don't give a rats about F50's, contested ball, clearances, hit outs to advantage, metres gained, kicks to handballs etc, if we lose.

There is only one stat this club and its supporters need to concentrate on - WINS.

When we dominate that stat, I will happily consider the rest of them.

 

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    3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I hope we dominate the frees for stat this weekend. 

     

    Even if pigs fly over the ground and it happens Ethan, it won't matter if we lose.

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    6 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I hope we dominate the frees for stat this weekend. 

     

    If that were to happen Gil would call an AFL meeting so that he can over turn the free kick count and give them to meth coast.

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    6 hours ago, Redleg said:

    I am sick to death of the crap being written about stats. 

    There is only one thing that matters, as Jaded has said - WINS.

    You can use stats to paint over faults, or gloss over failure.

    At the end of the day I don't give a rats about F50's, contested ball, clearances, hit outs to advantage, metres gained, kicks to handballs etc, if we lose.

    There is only one stat this club and its supporters need to concentrate on - WINS.

    When we dominate that stat, I will happily consider the rest of them.

     

    I hear what you're saying @Redleg - and everyone knows (Football department, supporters) its a win loss industry. But if you like numbers (which I do) - there is still sophistication and nuance in understanding the WHY of the wins and the losses that people like to revel in.

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    I reckon 43% of people would agree with Redleg.

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    Stats can help you to understand the game beyond the absolutely superficial, and to predict outcomes.

    No need for that though, right?

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    23 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

    Stats can help you to understand the game beyond the absolutely superficial, and to predict outcomes.

    No need for that though, right?

    So after 20 games of football this year the FD must have collected such a list of stats that they will know exactly what to do to win the last two games correct?

    wow that makes me feel better the next two games are in the bag Mr Leg and I can relax.

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    Ok everyone - the baby boomers have spoken. 

    We are not to discuss anything other than whether we won or not. 

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    2 minutes ago, Smokey said:

    Ok everyone - the baby boomers have spoken. 

    We are not to discuss anything other than whether we won or not. 

    To be fair, they did have to walk 20km through the snow to get to school. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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    5 minutes ago, Smokey said:

    Ok everyone - the baby boomers have spoken. 

    We are not to discuss anything other than whether we won or not. 

    In 20 years time you might understand the world.

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    I love my stats and analysis but youre right, they mean absolutely jack crap if we cant win. Good sides win, even when dominated. We lose, even when dominating. All that matters is those 4 points. The rest is spin and dribble.

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    2 minutes ago, old dee said:

    In 20 years time you might understand the world.

    Settle down old boy, you don't know me 

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    12 minutes ago, old dee said:

    In 20 years time you might understand the world.

     

    How long is it going to take you..?

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    3 minutes ago, Smokey said:

    Settle down old boy, you don't know me 

    As you notice I am a bit touchy on the subject.

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    2 minutes ago, old dee said:

    As you notice I am a bit touchy on the subject.

    I was just mucking around mate, no offence intended at all 

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    3 minutes ago, old dee said:

    As you notice I am a bit touchy on the subject.

    Nah you're just an old bastard :lol:

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    24 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

    Nah you're just an old bastard :lol:

    Funny that you can say bastard but not [censored] (whip a horse) 

    Edited by ManDee

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    4 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    Funny that you can say bastard but not [censored] (whip a horse) 

    Ahh censorship is a wonderful thing

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    49 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

    Why are posts being deleted?

    I have been having trouble with the site the last two days on both my phone and iPad and in different locations is it just me?

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    3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

    Stats can help you to understand the game beyond the absolutely superficial, and to predict outcomes.

    No need for that though, right?

    My post was actually rather simple. I was saying that personally I am sick of stats as I am only really invested in one - wins. 

    I have not found it superficial gaining my knowledge from seeing the games and what happened at them and then knowing the result. 

    I know why we lost on Sunday, we missed probably 12 gettable shots. 

    My point is that knowing we had 50% more F50 entries doesn’t make me happy, if anything it makes me angrier.

    For those happy to invest in their stats, enjoy. If it brings happiness to know after losing a game that we won certain stat categories, who am I to interfere with that. 

    It’s just not for me anymore. 

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    13 minutes ago, ManDee said:

    Funny that you can say bastard but not [censored] (whip a horse) 

    That's because horses are noble, gentle nurturing creatures, whereas the football world is so full of bastards you can hardly discuss it without using the word.

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    7 minutes ago, old dee said:

    I have been having trouble with the site the last two days on both my phone and iPad and in different locations is it just me?

    You have to use an actual phone and not just a picture of one from the Aus Post junk mail catalogue.

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