Changes v West Coat - Round 22

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I'm curious.

Will the blazers make a comeback for this game? For if we are playing the West Coat, the most appropriate opponent for them should be the Melbourne blazer.

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

24 minutes ago, Redleg said:

You want JKH out, who had the same possessions as ANB, but unlike ANB who turned over half of them, every one of JKH's were to our advantage. He took a few marks as well,  unlike ANB, who dropped the crucial one in the last that may have led to a goal and us close to hitting the lead. 

That was JKH's best game for us this season and one of ANB's worst and you want to drop JKH, who at least plays footy, in favour of a skilless runner.

WOW!

Yes, ANB has been very good this year, while he has a number of people who might not understand his role, one bad game won't get him dropped. JHK just doesn't do much IMO, he certainly wasn't the damaging game breaker you've talked him up to be. I want him to succeed but JHK doesn't have the ability to play ANB's role, and Melk is coming back so JHK will make way for him (IMO). 

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2 hours ago, layzie said:

We will need to make McGovern accountable but a lot of this will be seen in our delivery inside 50. If we're going to bomb aimlessly again it will be Aliir all over again.

Agreed, and we also managed to make Magic Door look like a world beater for a quarter as well, McGovern is a class above both Aliir and Daw so I think we need to not only get it smarter into the Fwd50, but also negate him completely.

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16 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Yes, ANB has been very good this year, while he has a number of people who might not understand his role, one bad game won't get him dropped. JHK just doesn't do much IMO, he certainly wasn't the damaging game breaker you've talked him up to be. I want him to succeed but JHK doesn't have the ability to play ANB's role, and Melk is coming back so JHK will make way for him (IMO). 

In all the games we lost this year, ANB butchered the ball and cost us badly from his few possessions. He also fumbled, dropped marks and got in the way of other players. He was also hopeless in front of goal. 

Is that his role? If so he does it well. IMO.

Edited August 14, 2018 by Redleg

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Yep Hib, Weed, Melk and Kent for Hunt, Hogan, Pedo and Spargo.

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5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

In all the games we lost this year, ANB butchered the ball and cost us badly from his few possessions. He also fumbled, dropped marks and got in the way of other players. He was also hopeless in front of goal. 

Is that his role? If so he does it well. IMO.

He has had some good games this year but against Sydney he and Garlett were our two worst by some margin

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22 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Yep Hib, Weed, Melk and Kent for Hunt, Hogan, Pedo and Spargo.

Please  drop JKH for anyone ie Bugg

[GCDee 3,199]

Heres hoping now Hogan is gone we refrain from just mindlessly bombing the ball inside 50.

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2 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Please  drop JKH for anyone ie Bugg

He had 14 disposals at 100% efficiency on Sunday ?

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42 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Agreed, and we also managed to make Magic Door look like a world beater for a quarter as well, McGovern is a class above both Aliir and Daw so I think we need to not only get it smarter into the Fwd50, but also negate him completely.

Tim Smith in and to McGovern?

[Demons11 7,010]

9 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

Tim Smith in and to McGovern?

I think they definitely need to play a big man who can either take McGovern away from the contest or compete with him in the air

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17 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

He had 14 disposals at 100% efficiency on Sunday ?

Of which he only had 1 inside 50, zero goal assists, 2 clearances and kicked 0.0. He does no damage at all with what little of the ball he gets.

[GCDee 3,199]

Outs: JKH, Hogan, Hunt

Ins: Kent, Hibb & Melk. 

Jeffy on thin ice. Ped & Tmac to be our key forwards and can rotate out. 

LOWER YOUR EYES THIS WEEK DEMONS AND WE WILL BE A 5 GOAL BETTER SIDE. 

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4 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Of which he only had 1 inside 50, zero goal assists, 2 clearances and kicked 0.0. He does no damage at all with what little of the ball he gets.

I thought he was set up for a good game on Sunday when he hit a beauty of pass to Oliver in the first term.

I then felt as though I didn't see him until later on in the second half.  His spot would be one in question with others ready to return.

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12 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I thought he was set up for a good game on Sunday when he hit a beauty of pass to Oliver in the first term.

I then felt as though I didn't see him until later on in the second half.  His spot would be one in question with others ready to return.

I said at the time that that was the best kick of his career, and I agree, it was the only time he was genuinely involved in the match for the day.

Edited August 14, 2018 by TeamPlayedFine39
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19 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Of which he only had 1 inside 50, zero goal assists, 2 clearances and kicked 0.0. He does no damage at all with what little of the ball he gets.

As a defensive wingmen, only 10 goals kicked also. Not sticking up for the guy, but thought ANB was by far WOG

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19 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Outs: JKH, Hogan, Hunt

Ins: Kent, Hibb & Melk. 

Jeffy on thin ice. Ped & Tmac to be our key forwards and can rotate out. 

LOWER YOUR EYES THIS WEEK DEMONS AND WE WILL BE A 5 GOAL BETTER SIDE. 

Prefer Jeffy or Spargo rested and JKH staying in

Otherwise good

[In Harmes Way 7,771]

21 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Outs: JKH, Hogan, Hunt

Ins: Kent, Hibb & Melk. 

Jeffy on thin ice. Ped & Tmac to be our key forwards and can rotate out. 

LOWER YOUR EYES THIS WEEK DEMONS AND WE WILL BE A 5 GOAL BETTER SIDE. 

5 goals might still not be enough - Umpires will give them 4 over there and we lost by 9 points

[JV7 2,351]

Not keen on Weideman replacing Hogan. He hasn't shown anything in his games this year he's ready... As bad as Pedersen was I'd keep him in to releave TMac of ruck duties. I wouldn't mind seeing Hannan back into the side, he's a proven goal kicker. Play Petracca as a permanent forward also. 

In: Hannan, Melksham, Hibberd

Out: Hogan, JKH, Spargo

Edited August 14, 2018 by JV7

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16 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

As a defensive wingmen, only 10 goals kicked also. Not sticking up for the guy, but thought ANB was by far WOG

Agree that ANB had a shocker, but he has some credits in the bank.  

On the topic of ANB, he needs a big game this weekend.  He routinely puts in poor performances against the better teams this year.  The same could have been said about Harmes, but he’s stepped up in the second half of the year.  Hopefully ANB can be next...

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19 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Prefer Jeffy or Spargo rested and JKH staying in

Otherwise good

I think Spargo gives us decent spread. JKH simply is just a VFL footballer unfortunately 

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7 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Agree that ANB had a shocker, but he has some credits in the bank.  

On the topic of ANB, he needs a big game this weekend.  He routinely puts in poor performances against the better teams this year.  The same could have been said about Harmes, but he’s stepped up in the second half of the year.  Hopefully ANB can be next...

Yes we have a few of those types that don’t stand up in big games. ANBs disposal has always been terrible, he really needs to fix it if he wants to be best 22 in future. As for Harmes, super impressive form recently, some of the things he’s doing reminds me of De Goey, but maybe it’s just the blonde locks. Good on him I say.

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

In all the games we lost this year, ANB butchered the ball and cost us badly from his few possessions. He also fumbled, dropped marks and got in the way of other players. He was also hopeless in front of goal. 

Is that his role? If so he does it well. IMO.

Kicked the goal to ensure the win against the crows through his massive work rate, and has kicked over a goal a game. In 5 games jhk has kicked only 1 and you want him playing in that position?? Melk will be back to play the role jhk has for the last few weeks and clearly hasn't done that well doing it

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On 8/12/2018 at 6:44 PM, S_T said:

Spargo isn’t ready. I said a few weeks ago he wasn’t strong enough to stick tackles. Today it was his lack of composure and inability to kick 40m. Just not ready. 

Not ready / needs a rest, either way he won't be up to playing the eagles.

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41 minutes ago, JV7 said:

Not keen on Weideman replacing Hogan. He hasn't shown anything in his games this year he's ready... As bad as Pedersen was I'd keep him in to releave TMac of ruck duties. I wouldn't mind seeing Hannan back into the side, he's a proven goal kicker. Play Petracca as a permanent forward also. 

In: Hannan, Melksham, Hibberd

Out: Hogan, JKH, Spargo

I wouldn't mind both Hannan and Fritsch playing across half forward.