5 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

This is an example of my points about umpires: the game is now fully corrupted and incompetence is just fine when managed (AFL) in a non-descript manner for the unspoken net outcomes. Time we let the AFL and the umpires board feel the way we do about this creeping cancer on our game. I will partake in this season a little longer but not next year if there is the slightest hint of favoured outcomes against any team in the competition. 

You’ve got even more whacky new rules coming in October. All they need to do is umpire the game better. Whateley was the driving force behind the state of the game, now it’s escalated out of control. 

13 hours ago, willmoy said:

We could have done a lot better with a fit Vandenberg and Bugg in that team to fall over Pepper who kept on falling on top of everyone else. Umpires my a#$%s...

Pepper needed a dose or two of his own medicine; attempting to cause severe injury across a game particularly when a player was on the ground, immobile, unprotected and already smothered by another player. No video review? Why? 

 

On 6/23/2018 at 12:41 AM, willmoy said:

what was going to be required to fit the necessary result.

Very well put description of our observations!

Another thing I’ve noticed recently is why are they calling play on so quickly after a mark, the player hardly has enough time to get back and take his kick before they call play on, often resulting in a rushed kick and turnover. Obvious v Pies, they seemed to have more time and then again v Port.

1 minute ago, SFebey said:

Another thing I’ve noticed recently is why are they calling play on so quickly after a mark, the player hardly has enough time to get back and take his kick before they call play on, often resulting in a rushed kick and turnover. Obvious v Pies, they seemed to have more time and then again v Port.

It was the rule of the week against the Pies 'S', seems to have calmed down a bit since.

...and why they continue to deny there is such a thing as rule of the week is beyond stupid.

The evidence is there for all to see, we might be rusted on supporters but we're not that dumb.

1 minute ago, rjay said:

It was the rule of the week against the Pies 'S', seems to have calmed down a bit since.

...and why they continue to deny there is such a thing as rule of the week is beyond stupid.

The evidence is there for all to see, we might be rusted on supporters but we're not that dumb.

Rule of the week exists, it’s what makes fans exasperated, so much inconsistency 

On 6/22/2018 at 10:32 PM, Mickey said:

30 frees against. 3 50s against, none for. 

Two 50s and one 75.

4 hours ago, timbo said:

There is no denying the umpires cost us the game

melk

wingard

we win by 2

add brayshaw's 4q mark to that. it was held much longer than wingard's

on the melk one, why didn't one of the other 3 umpires have the guts to overide the dh one?

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by daisycutter

Kicking the can down the road a bit, zero in on Footscray vs North Melbourne last night, North heavily favoured by the Umpires in crucial decisions to the pin up media boy Higgins who uses his elbows like fists and never "deliberate" 

4 umpires and they still can't umpire a fair game.

Just now, Barney Rubble said:

4 umpires and they still can't umpire a fair game.

Over thinking it....

Micromanaging an impossibility...but they insist.

Dont need 4....go back to 2

Scrap the rubbish rules...bring back FOOTY !!

1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

Two 50s and one 75.

30 frees against, second half worst umpiring almost ever!

Normally over loss next day, but am still cursing the umpires!

Wingard non mark paid

Dixon 75 metre penalty

Melksham x 2 goals disallowed plus 50 metre penalty against

Brayshaw mark not paid

As other poster mentioned, ball in our forward 50, 68 times and we hardly got a free inside 50, total BS!

Umpires had at least a six goal impact, absolutely disgraceful!

 

 

14 minutes ago, D4Life said:

30 frees against, second half worst umpiring almost ever!

Normally over loss next day, but am still cursing the umpires!

Wingard non mark paid

Dixon 75 metre penalty

Melksham x 2 goals disallowed plus 50 metre penalty against

Brayshaw mark not paid

As other poster mentioned, ball in our forward 50, 68 times and we hardly got a free inside 50, total BS!

Umpires had at least a six goal impact, absolutely disgraceful!

 

 

What was the 75m penalty ????

I heard a supposed AFL aside in the hallowed halls recently that went something like "when these two blokes were playing for TWSNBN they never had a free kick paid against them, they make a new start for them and their families in a new environment (MFC) and look what bias  befalls them". 

This has been happening for years against us, there have been too many over the years and our club as well as the others need to be able to show the AFL this is cheating.

Clubs need too stand firm as do the players, imagine being players doing the right thing at getting told, well free kick plus a 50 metre? I don't now how they can keep their cool at times such as Melk did on Friday night?

It would be worth the $10.000 to call it for what it is they are cheating.

1 hour ago, D4Life said:

30 frees against, second half worst umpiring almost ever!

Normally over loss next day, but am still cursing the umpires!

Wingard non mark paid

Dixon 75 metre penalty

Melksham x 2 goals disallowed plus 50 metre penalty against

Brayshaw mark not paid

As other poster mentioned, ball in our forward 50, 68 times and we hardly got a free inside 50, total BS!

Umpires had at least a six goal impact, absolutely disgraceful!

 

 

I 100% agree, I am still frustrated by the game.... I've tried to bit my tounge but I need to rant to get it off my chest

Now the emotions faded a bit, our biggest weakness is still there. We should have been a lot further in front in the first half. 

A couple of T Mac misses, some poor delivery in to the f50 really cost us the game overall.

But your post re the 2nd half is spot on. the umpires had a direct influence on the result. And not that I've posted here but for a few years now I have been, and remain bewildered by the umpiring in all games.

Inconsistent, over umpired, and a bit of me time by the umpires.  Why pay free kicks when the infrindged team has possession? You watch how the umpires slow the game down with confusion and waiting for players at contested etc, this 3rd man up rule is the biggest joke going around.

How hard is it to have 2 ppl contest the ball and if a 3rd goes up then pay a free. What the actual f is the point of slowing the game up and nominating players? Then the same geniuses complain the game needs to be sped up, give me a spell.

The good ol boys club at the AFL and in the media over analysis in trying to simplify things has made umpiring the biggest black hole in the games history.

What is a free kick now days??? No one actually knows anymore. Dropping the ball is gone, holding the ball is a raffle and what was the Melksham free for?

Good work AFL on fing up a great game. Go and F yourselfs my cash imput is going to be reduced severely.

PS: don't even get me started on the 30 sec goal shot clock and the complaints about poor goal kicking.... or the goal review

Good work Gil you [censored] - keep up the good work

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by Unleash Hell

1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said:

4 umpires and they still can't umpire a fair game.

Good evidence of pre-match collusion and a higher order from uptstairs...then there is competing between four umpires for status, recognition, actually seen to be making a decision oneself - albeit fanciful and wrong, and still not making up the ground to be in position to adjudicate where necessary and thoroughly - unlike the single umpires' talents of the past. Frigging amazing.

On 6/23/2018 at 1:11 AM, willmoy said:

Those umpires knew 15 to 20 minutes before the end of that game what was going to be required to fit the necessary result.

They then went about doing it. It would have taken about that amount of time to make it look legitimate. 

What should be disturbing is that the correlation between a constructive, continual, concerted written abuse of disgraceful and bias performances seems to coincide with the way the maggots and media alike conduct their childish vendettas against this team, of which i am becoming increasingly proud...

Absolutely laughable post. Take off your tin foil hat and ask yourself how we could lose that game with the clearances and inside fifties advantage we had. If our forwards had bothered to show up, we should have been far enough ahead for the frees to have had little to no effect on the final result.

1 hour ago, D4Life said:

As other poster mentioned, ball in our forward 50, 68 times and we hardly got a free inside 50, total BS!

So you have no issue with the fact that we couldn’t turn those inside fifties into scores on our own merits?  The umpires cannot be held responsible for our hopeless conversion rate.

6 hours ago, timbo said:

There is no denying the umpires cost us the game

melk

wingard

we win by 2

I have been queitly stewing over this game for 2 days. The umpiring in the second half ( last quarter especially ) was abysmal but those 2 decisions in the 2nd quarter really peeved me. There was no free kick to wingard and the melksham sheperding decision is one of the most baffling I have ever seen. It is not often you can claim the umps cost us a game but on Friday night they did.

5 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Absolutely laughable post. Take off your tin foil hat and ask yourself how we could lose that game with the clearances and inside fifties advantage we had. If our forwards had bothered to show up, we should have been far enough ahead for the frees to have had little to no effect on the final result.

You ask yourself the same question, and i know how hard it is to be an umpire as well as an ex player. You have to have a consciously different mind set when you do umpire, at any grade. That aside, the idea that we should have been far enough ahead should  justify the rulings, silly, i'm afraid.

Just as the game against Adelaide, to me, proved, to a certain extent of what the sort of football we can play when allowed to "breath"

the juggernaut (AFL) is just SO AFRAID....don't think HT they haven't discussed the potential of the MFC they created. 

I find the "celebrity" frees a joke.

Apparently one of the umpires from last weeks Richmond/ Geelong game has had a mental breakdown and had to sit out this week.

when asked what was the problem, he just mumbled"Cotch, Dusty, Danger, Little Gaz, Sellwood, I didn't know what to do!"

50 minutes ago, willmoy said:

You ask yourself the same question, and i know how hard it is to be an umpire as well as an ex player. You have to have a consciously different mind set when you do umpire, at any grade. That aside, the idea that we should have been far enough ahead should  justify the rulings, silly, i'm afraid.

Just as the game against Adelaide, to me, proved, to a certain extent of what the sort of football we can play when allowed to "breath"

the juggernaut (AFL) is just SO AFRAID....don't think HT they haven't discussed the potential of the MFC they created. 

I'm not saying that the free count was fair, they weren't consistently applied and that is something that is seen in ALL games (although at 30-24, a six free kick discrepancy between the two teams is hardly extreme)... however, I am saying that the idea that there is some sort of conspiracy working against the MFC is preposterous.  We were our own worst enemies and that is down to the fact that we had almost double the number of 50 entries (68 to 39) and yet failed to convert them into scoring opportunities; there was nowhere near the number of frees against that could account for that.  We should have been in an almost unbeatable position by half time.

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by hardtack

On 6/22/2018 at 10:51 PM, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

The Melksham “block” possibly cost us the game and omething we should be questioning...LOUDLY!

Absolutely agree .... That was ridiculous. One on One contest called a block .... It's called protecting the ball drop zone with strength. If there gorilla forward had done it it would have been great show of strength.

I can't recall if they scored from that 50m or not .... But so so costly.

14 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It should be a talking point. WCE were completely outplayed by the bombers yet still won the freekick count 33-17! How the [censored] is that possible???

Wingard gets a non-mark results in a goal. Melksham gets a rubbish free against him, results in a goal taken off us, 50 the other way which ended up in a goal. That's 3 goals right there in a 10 point game. Many more examples as well but just those 2 instances umpired correctly and we win.

This is such a true statement. It's all well and good to take the moral high ground and say it was all our fault and we should have capitalised on our opportunities but the amount of frees and questionable frees have a direct impact on the flow of the game. You interupt the flow and outcomes can change, simple as that. If the count was even in the half, say 10-10 I think we would have got the result.

8 hours ago, timbo said:

There is no denying the umpires cost us the game

melk

wingard

we win by 2

See that vision physicaly make me ill. 

Nichols should not be allowed to umpire MFC games .... Time and time again he kills us. There needs to be a please explain. Doesn't change the result bit this is utter garage