We should host Anzac Eve one year, queen's bday the next. We should also get to host Essendon and Carlton every second year at minimum too instead of once a decade. Fix these and i have no issue, it may actually help build the day as Collingwood supporters will be more invested in making it a big game rather than seeing it as charity.

We know the advantages Collingwood get out of it (reserved seating in Ponsford for example) but that shouldn't preclude us sharing the game.

14 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’ve been meaning to permanently ban you for a while now. Thanks for the reminder.

About time and long overdue 

10 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I suspect that most of them have worked Eddie out by now. He's not as smart as we used to think he was.

Correct, he has overdone the bleeding heart routine - poor Collingwood - with the AFL and with the public to extract unfair advantages over many years; his media links have inflated his ego beyond his capabilities and still he presses onward with tasteless advantage-seeking. He would argue and so would the Collingwood FC that he, as President, is doing all in his power for the benefit of the Club, however, when taking a good deal from his media profile to enable this 'caring steerage', he  and the Collingwood FC are giving little back to the AFL and idts representation on behalf of all other clubs in the League, let alone the non-Collingwood supporting general public across Australia. 

As already said, alternate from 2020, playing Collingwood twice and a home game v Essendon and/or Carlton each year.

37 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’ve been meaning to permanently ban you for a while now. Thanks for the reminder.

I am not against supporters of other teams posting here, I thought Ash? the Essendon supporter was good, he took a lot of shlt from us but he had reasoned arguments and I respected him. However this latest incarnation Davydee is just stirring the pot and adds nothing to the site. I have no doubt he will pop up under another guise before too long. Hopefully we can get rid of him more quickly next time.

52 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’ve been meaning to permanently ban you for a while now. Thanks for the reminder.

 

1 hour ago, DaveyDee said:

That’s not a debate you are going to win, you don’t have the numbers. First, you need to build your crowds, memberships & net profits - all very trivial I understand.  

AFL assisted you in survival by selecting CEO, Board and facilitating key coaching appointments. 

But is over to you now - best of luck. 

 

Interesting topic.

I for one am glad the AFL is in charge of scheduling. 

I consider Collingwood may be very lucky for instance ,to have ANZAC day.

They simply didn’t have that many players go to war in comparison to the other clubs. ( Melbourne I believe had the highest participation). But that in itself, may be a totally different discussion?

Happy to leave to the AFL to sort out and also agree with PJ’s comments and stance.

 

 

Another game v Collingwood each year wouldn’t hurt either, we are arch rivals and have a history, why not chuck the second game in a Friday night and alternate QB each year, leaving us with one H and one A  v Pies?

I have no problem with alternating the Home game or splitting the gate receipts. If we alternate that it has to correspond with us getting the Home ANZAC Eve game.

Or why no give us 2 games against Collingwood perhaps one as the first Friday night game of the year.

MCC predicting 79,000 next Monday which would make it a record for a QB clash. We’d love it if we can get 80k+. 

Edited June 5, 20186 yr by Dee Zephyr

1 hour ago, DaveyDee said:

Getting rid of the “fixture” would crush the equalisation fund. Crush that and teams like St Kilda, Bulldogs, North and Melbourne are finished. 

 

That’s not a debate you are going to win, you don’t have the numbers. First, you need to build your crowds, memberships & net profits - all very trivial I understand.  

AFL assisted you in survival by selecting CEO, Board and facilitating key coaching appointments. 

But is over to you now - best of luck. 

I think we will do alright champ.........take a walk. Farewell, adieu and goodnight.

Just now, Wadda We Sing said:

I think we will do alright champ.........take a walk. Farewell, adieu and goodnight.

Or simply, just [censored] off

30 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Another game v Collingwood each year wouldn’t hurt either, we are arch rivals and have a history, why not chuck the second game in a Friday night and alternate QB each year, leaving us with one H and one A  v Pies?

Great point.

I'd rather play Collingwood x 2, despite the risk of losing, than the Bulldogs (what is it, 3 weeks apart LOL) or the Saints or Suns

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

MCC predicting 79,000 next Monday which would make it a record for a QB clash. We’d love it if we can get 80k+. 

I just checked Mt Buller and it's looking sad.

The forecast doesn't look good so whaddaya know we may see a Deluge of Discoveries parked up around the precinct and a Bevy of Boat Shoes at the Royal pre game.

80k locked in?

There's no excuse not to go if you're within distance of the G.

The thing that Eddie (and the AFL) conveniently fail to recognise is that the MCG has been Melbourne’s home ground for nearly 150 years and that we were originally the MCC Football Club. It is first and foremost our traditional home and all other Clubs are there at the behest of the MCC administration. Eddie can go and suck eggs or we can offer him a home game at Alice or Darwin! As for the AFL! 

History (extract) from our website

The rules of the Melbourne Football Club are formalised in 1859, with Wills and his cousin HCA Harrison being major contributors.  In the years that follow, other clubs come and go as the game further develops, including the first Richmond Football Club, and South Melbourne.  By 1873, Melbourne is exiled from the MCG due to turf damage.  The Victorian Football Association assumes control of the game in 1873.  Melbourne plays Carlton under lights at the MCG in 1879, before undergoing financial turmoil and being absorbed into the MCC in 1889.  In 1896, meetings are held to form the VFL.  The founding clubs are Melbourne, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fitzroy, Geelong, St Kilda and South Melbourne.

1 hour ago, SFebey said:

Another game v Collingwood each year wouldn’t hurt either, we are arch rivals and have a history, why not chuck the second game in a Friday night and alternate QB each year, leaving us with one H and one A  v Pies?

Knockout idea that must occur.

6 minutes ago, CBDees said:

The thing that Eddie (and the AFL) conveniently fail to recognise is that the MCG has been Melbourne’s home ground for nearly 150 years and that we were originally the MCC Football Club. It is first and foremost our traditional home and all other Clubs are there at the behest of the MCC administration. Eddie can go and suck eggs or we can offer him a home game at Alice or Darwin! As for the AFL! 

History (extract) from our website

The rules of the Melbourne Football Club are formalised in 1859, with Wills and his cousin HCA Harrison being major contributors.  In the years that follow, other clubs come and go as the game further develops, including the first Richmond Football Club, and South Melbourne.  By 1873, Melbourne is exiled from the MCG due to turf damage.  The Victorian Football Association assumes control of the game in 1873.  Melbourne plays Carlton under lights at the MCG in 1879, before undergoing financial turmoil and being absorbed into the MCC in 1889.  In 1896, meetings are held to form the VFL.  The founding clubs are Melbourne, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fitzroy, Geelong, St Kilda and South Melbourne.

First cab off the rank in terms of football maxims: The Melb FC was the initiator of the game.

Second cab off the rank in terms of football maxims: It is so easy to forget by other teams and the former VFL, and now the AFL:

The MCG is the home of the Melbourne Football Club and has been for just under 150 years! Suck that one, Filth!

Some of us never forget that fact whenever in our lifetime we enter the hallowed stadium and have remembered for years, and years, and years.

message to eddie (and dr who)

4 hours ago, Nasher said:

What’s this crap about Ed/Collingwood’s “generousity”? I just vomited in my mouth. The AFL do the fixturing, not Collingwood. It is not, and never has been up to them. It’s been in their interests to agree because it guarantees them a “big stage” away game in Melbourne, on their home ground.

I’d be quite happy to see the gate split, or the home allocation alternated, so long as it meant Collingwood had to travel to Perth or Brisbane once more a year as a result, since that is the other side of the equation.

I don't quite agree with this.  All clubs are asked for their wishlist and input re the next season's fixture.

The AFL wouldn't have a blockbuster where one team year after year is the home team and pockets the funds without the largesse of the other club involved.  We wouldn't have had this fixture as long as we have without Collingwood's agreement.

1 hour ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

 

49 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Knockout idea that must occur.

We had 2 last year didnt we? Who could forget the second one. I thought that would continue.

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

We had 2 last year didnt we? Who could forget the second one. I thought that would continue.

Needs to be a Friday night blockbuster though $$$$

12 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Yep.. I'd like to think we have become a Republic in the next ten years. If so I can't see the same holiday being kept as it would be controversial. Would like think we celebrate Republic Day on say July 1. If that happens the concept of a fixed Monday holiday would disappear as well.

Now about Eddie and his Ponsford stand deal !!!

I don't think it matters much what Eddie wants. The longterm prospect for a public holiday on the second Monday in June isn't promising,  whether we become a republic or not. Her Majesty is 92. When she passes it is my view that the Queen's Birthday holiday, rather than becoming a King's Birthday holiday, will be replaced with some other public holiday which is more relevant to Australia. It may fall in winter, but it could equally be any other time of the year. 

We should worry less about who hosts Queen's Birthday football and instead develop alternative blockbuster formats. I've said it before, so I'll repeat it here: To me the obvious blockbuster opportunity is the Capital City Clash between Melbourne and Sydney. The two biggest cities which host between them the HQs of the bulk of corporate Australia should, with the right promotion, be able to generate big crowds and big sponsorship opportunities for both Melbourne FC and Sydney FC. Alternating between the MCG and the SCG each year and played as a Friday night game. Get the State premiers involved, the respective Lord Mayors and various other Melbourne and Sydney-based bodies.     

When I first read this I was annoyed by a few things. Ed as usual taking his argument public rather than negotiating with MFC in private. Yes I appreciate MFC getting the home game and the finances for the last 20 years but looking back early on the crowds weren't there and the fixture was in doubt because Collingwood supporters didn't attend our home game. It is Ed's sense of entitlement that annoys me.

Now it is a genuine blockbuster Eddy wants in on the cash. In a fair deal moving forward I have no problem sharing the gate in the future and expect we play each other twice. Given that the ANZAC eve game is our other blockbuster the home game for us should coincide with us being away aginst Richmond. Will Ed be prepared to give up another of his MCG blockbuster games or does he want another MCG game. We have been at the G our home once in the last 6 weeks and that was as the away team. If he wants to negotiate what is he prepared to give up.

My perception is that he doesn't think the MND game will go beyond this year. He has stated that he is happy to let us have this year but is he imlpying it wont happen next year and I thought the AFL managed the fixture. If they get the home game on Queens birthday then I expect MFC to take the MND game to another game as we have owned it and marketed it and pay homage to one of our favourite sons.

I know emotion rarely motivates the players but I really hope Viney is reminding everybody of what Collingwood did in the last game last season and makes sure it never happens again. Give them hell!!