2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Until we start putting runs on the board, arses on seats and eyes on the TV we can't expect any free rides. 

Success begets success. 

I don’t believe that any longer, any day of the week they would put the bummers on ahead of us. 

If we had the similar number of members might be a different story.

Just makes it so hard for a small club to grow when they are not on FTA. 

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

Until we start putting runs on the board, arses on seats and eyes on the TV we can't expect any free rides. 

Success begets success. 

Sorry. But can't stand this argument.

Mainly because not giving clubs reasonable access to fta ensures the afl will always remain locked into their stupid, but as it stands neccessary, equalization strategy.

But even if you don't agree with this argument we were one of the most exciting teams to watch in the afl last season and this year will be even more watchable with our manic (yet attractive) game style, potential to score quickly and our bevy of genuine young, marketable guns.

Our games will rate well. Certainly way better than the blues or pies did in the last two years with all their fta games.

Which touches on anorher thing that drives me crazy. The logic of giving clubs with big memberships and supporter numbers  better fta access is ridiculous,. One because it is really only relevant in Victoria and two, and even more importantly, in the scheme of things the extra 150k fans clubs like the pies or blues might have than say the dogs or deed is not going to create much more ratings for say  a friday night game might which might attract 1.5 million viewers. And if like so many pies and blues game their footy is crap their extra fans won't stop hundred of thousands of neutrals switching channels and ratings diving.

We simply have to win games

claw our way back...

It won’t be easy, but trading a certain player out last year, might be the biggest statement since RDB was sent paper bags. 

Just do it, start winning.

 

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2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Yeah I know. I'm hoping that if I say it enough the AFL will listen. It comes down to ratings in the end and unfortunately we won't be winning that battle anytime soon. If we had had any sustained success in the past 50 years maybe things would be different.

Carlton last won a flag in 1995, Essendon in 2000.

They aren't powerhouses anymore. And one is a drug cheating collection of reprobates

32 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Carlton last won a flag in 1995, Essendon in 2000.

They aren't powerhouses anymore. And one is a drug cheating collection of reprobates

They have both been Powerhouses in the TV ? era

We haven’t, and a cut throat place like 7 has no faith in us at all

We have to earn it

And speaking of the fix that is the AFL, we have played Essendon ONCE as the home side since 2005. Huge revenue opportunity that we miss out on.

We have played Carlton and Geelong 5 times since 2005 as the HOME team. Massive revenue foregone.

Until we start complaining bitterly and relentlessly about the inequities of the draw and the TV coverage we will remain as a 'poorer' club.

That's why this deal is so fantastic. And when we are a powerhouse, lets not forget how we were treated.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Carlton last won a flag in 1995, Essendon in 2000.

They aren't powerhouses anymore. And one is a drug cheating collection of reprobates

And the other a tanker & salary cap rorter.

Out of curiosity ... are we always destined to go up against the Australian GP

Last year it was against the qualifying session and this year it is the race itself.

 

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Out of curiosity ... are we always destined to go up against the Australian GP

Last year it was against the qualifying session and this year it is the race itself.

 

Does anyone in Australia watch the GP?

The Dees will always get dudded on FTA if one of the big four are playing. 

Not withstanding the general AFL fixtureing  in all fairness to channel 7 we are on FTA 12 times out of the first 22 programmed games.

That to me is better than " not half bad " considering our ladder position !

Source - AFL official fixture 2018 rrp $9.95 

16 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Channel 7 is Bomber TV. The pre-game stuff this Friday will be vomit inducing.

But they're so brave! And everyone's second team don't ya know 

16 hours ago, DV8 said:

Channel 7 is taking us Dees supporters for granted.

 

Its time to instill a ban on watching 7 footy. When Melbourne isn't given a fair go at free to air.

 

I call on all red blooded Dees, to NOT watch the bummers on key night time slots.

Why should WE ADD to the bummer viewing profile, whilst we get Sunday evening games?

 

Think and act. Don't watch bummers, & pies in prime time.  We just boost them up.

I've rarely watched them (and Blues) for the last few years anyway as their matches are boring.

10 hours ago, DV8 said:

And the other a tanker & salary cap rorter.

Hmmmm people in glass houses .....

10 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Does anyone in Australia watch the GP?

931,000 to be exact

The strange part of this decision for mine is the start time. By choosing to show the later starting game, 7 will automatically reduce the number of viewers available. While I prefer the later start, most families with children don't. It will probably only affect the number of neutral supporters who might watch, but I would have thought that is still significant.

Presumably the decision-makers believe Essendon versus the most boring team to watch starting later is better than the flaky Demons versus the unpredictable Lions starting at a better time.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

931,000 to be exact

Is that attendees or viewing audience Aust wide?

21 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

See there are two Saturday night games scheduled for 31 March.

There is Lions v MFC starting at 7:25pm Melbourne time; and

Freo v Bombers starting at 8:10pm Melbourne time

 

Yes Channel 7 will be showing the Bombers game

 

Dudded.

14 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Does anyone in Australia watch the GP?

Watch the what? That was 10 yrs ago, wasn't it? Do they still have it on the calendar? I thought that it was dead in the water and so terribly boring...nowhere near as enduring as the footy - Melbourne footy, that is. 

4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I've rarely watched them (and Blues) for the last few years anyway as their matches are boring.

I watch no-one but the DEMONS. If the Dees are not on the TV telecast, it is not worth watching. That has been my petty little protest for all these years ... it infiltrated my Foxtel telecasts, too, and radio broadcasts ... and I only attend Demons' games. One-eyed, inflexible and stubborn. HOOtfCares? The idea of DV8 to enact a ban on telecasts is a very good one. 

41 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Is that attendees or viewing audience Aust wide?

Viewing audience. Around 90000 on actual race day with maybe 324000 over the weekend.

Its stupid that we have to deal with the this for 2 years running. The GP is an expensive event and there would no doubt be some cross-over that means people would choose one or the other. But for us to have a clash two years in succession is appalling scheduling as usual bythe AFL.

21 hours ago, DV8 said:

Channel 7 is taking us Dees supporters for granted.

 

Its time to instill a ban on watching 7 footy. When Melbourne isn't given a fair go at free to air.

 

I call on all red blooded Dees, to NOT watch the bummers on key night time slots.

Why should WE ADD to the bummer viewing profile, whilst we get Sunday evening games?

 

Think and act. Don't watch bummers, & pies in prime time.  We just boost them up.

and try not mentioning their name as well.......

12 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Watch the what? That was 10 yrs ago, wasn't it? Do they still have it on the calendar? I thought that it was dead in the water and so terribly boring...nowhere near as enduring as the footy - Melbourne footy, that is. 

It’s actually the high end of technology, right on the edge. 

But my old man raced Albert Park in the 1950’s, so it is in my blood

Daniel Ricciardo is a great sportsman flying the Australian Flag ?? on an International Stage

So often the Demons first game is on at the same time. 

Sick of it