18 minutes ago, old dee said:

That is where I was coming from CB now all a contract guarantees is you will be paid nothing else. Too bad if a player actually wants to stay at the club. From the other end all the clubs get is a guarantee that the have something to trade if the player changes his mind about where he wants to play. So As a general statement I believe loyalty both ways  if not dead is a seriously ill.

No, clubs need the player's permission to be traded.

29 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

No, clubs need the player's permission to be traded.

*cough* Ryan Ferguson *cough*

36 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

No, clubs need the player's permission to be traded.

That is correct but if you are confronted with "we don't want you any more and you will not play seniors again" that is a fairly confronting situation. No many would say ok I want too stay here.

All I am suggesting is that if either party  wants out the contract means very little.

JW had a contract and he wanted to stay but the coach wanted him gone. Nett result he is playing fro Port in 2018

Viney did most of the session including a box on with Harmes, Gawn and Brayshaw

On Weids, spoke to him, did whole main session, ankle was leftover from Junior days, just wouldn't behave so op, no ongoing issue, apart from strapping it up, absolutely cherry ripe after being 'looked after' by Crossy

G'day all! Dropped by Gosch's to watch the lads in action for an hour or so. Easily  the biggest news to come out of today's session is that Viney is now training in the main group! Here are the rough notes I took while watching.

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<sub>When I arrived, Gawn was just finishing up some ruck drills with Mitch King while some forwards and defenders practiced one on one drills. Match ups included Frost/Weideman, Wagner/Hannan and Kent(possible role change?)/Hannan.

Some standard warm ups then followed. Great to see Pedders keeping up with TMac during the 50-100m sprints. He looks in ripping touch. Noticed very quickly that Jack Viney was running with the main group. Promising!

A quick side note Nev Jetta is in rehab to start off the session. He joined some group drills later then ran laps without much fuss. Doesn’t appear to be anything too serious. May’ve pulled up a bit sore from AFLX.

The first main drill involved the players being split into two groups. These two groups where then split in half again and began separate green vs blue match simulation drills on their respective half of the oval. It looked like there was a real emphasis on moving the ball inside 50 from the midfield. Here are a few quick notes regarding the simulation that unfolded closest to me.</sub>

_{-      Hogan was leading really well while Lever was very vocal and frustrated when Fritsch got out the back to take an almost uncontested mark. On that topic, there's something about Fristch. I enjoyed his work against North in AFLX. To put it simply, things just happen when he gets close to the ball. His tackling pressure was also on display with a rundown of a full pace Dean Kent. Its still a month away, but he seems a high chance for round 1.}

_{-      JKH looked to be moving well through the centre and Frost's spoiling seems to have come a long way. There were many times last year where his fist would land the ball in the arms an opposition player so it's nice to see some improvement in this area.}

_{-     The groups then swapped. Harmes' kicking was an early standout in this group while OMac looked composed during the times the ball came to ground. He was surprisingly clean below his knees.}

_{-     Viney was in this group and while he didn't see much of the Sherrin, he didn't look in any discomfort. Brayshaw also continued his handy AFLX form with a great tackle on Pedders. Here's hoping for a 22 game season from Gus}

_{A few separate drills around Gosch's then followed with players rotating between them every five minutes or so.}

_{-      The drill closest to me involved players kicking around the man standing on the mark to a teammate standing near an opposition player. The kicking was a real highlight here, particularly from the likes of Hogan and Maynard.}

_{-     The second drill focused on clean hands with players being required to crumb a loose ball and hand passing it to a teammate, who would then kick to a loose player. I didn’t see much of this drill so I can’t pick out many stand out players.}

_{-      The third drill involved players finding a target amongst those 'fake player' stands. The wind was fairly strong at this point which meant for some occasional missed targets. Lewis and surprisingly Mitch King were those I don’t remember missing a target in the gale.}

 

<sub>The next drill involved all players and was a kicking drill where players could practice their 30-40 meter passes. Not too much too report here aside from some lovely bullet passes from Hibberd and the Zooper specialist Melksham. Dion Johnston also has a handy kicking action and didn't miss many targets.

Some more green vs blue match simulation drills then followed. Some more observations.</sub>

_{-      Hannan was everywhere in the first few minutes, kicking two goals including one with a lovely snap from the boundary (Edit from five minutes later: fantastic bit of play where he stepped around two players and passed it beautifully to Bugg in the pocket. Second edit: Hannan kicks another with a straightforward set shot. Absolutely on fire!}

_{-      A perfect Garlett pass from the boundary then finds Tommy Bugg who kicks truly from 20m out.}

_{-      One player who caught my eye was our prized recruit Jake Lever. He moves incredibly well for someone his size and his defensive pressure his first class. We've picked up a good one here.}

_{-      A training highlight then followed as Gus unloaded from 60m with a massive bomb to bring up six points. I honestly didn't know that he had that in him!}

 

_{Players then split into three groups (Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards) and began working through some separate drills. I left fairly soon afterwards. Also, from what I could see. There was no Tyson, Vandenburg. McKenna, Baker or Spargo.}

_{Happy to fill in any blanks if anyone has any questions.}

 

Edited February 21, 20187 yr by Demon Jack

38 players on the track today, so interesting who plays first JLT.

Baker, Spargo and Filipovic are on a plane,   assume Tassie early for a bit of community work

Edited February 21, 20187 yr by Satyriconhome

Thanks for the detailed report Demon Jack

6 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

G'day all! Dropped by Gosch's to watch the lads in action for an hour or so. Easily  the biggest news to come out of today's session is that Viney is now training in the main group! Here are the rough notes I took while watching.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

<sub>When I arrived, Gawn was just finishing up some ruck drills with Mitch King while some forwards and defenders practiced one on one drills. Match ups included Frost/Weideman, Wagner/Hannan and Kent(possible role change?)/Hannan.

Some standard warm ups then followed. Great to see Pedders keeping up with TMac during the 50-100m sprints. He looks in ripping touch. Noticed very quickly that Jack Viney was running with the main group. Promising!

A quick side note Nev Jetta is in rehab to start off the session. He joined some group drills later then ran laps without much fuss. Doesn’t appear to be anything too serious. May’ve pulled up a bit sore from AFLX.

The first main drill involved the players being split into two groups. These two groups where then split in half again and began separate green vs blue match simulation drills on their respective half of the oval. It looked like there was a real emphasis on moving the ball inside 50 from the midfield. Here are a few quick notes regarding the simulation that unfolded closest to me.</sub>

_{-      Hogan was leading really well while Lever was very vocal and frustrated when Fritsch got out the back to take an almost uncontested mark. On that topic, there's something about Fristch. I enjoyed his work against North in AFLX. To put it simply, things just happen when he gets close to the ball. His tackling pressure was also on display with a rundown of a full pace Dean Kent. Its still a month away, but he seems a high chance for round 1.}

_{-      JKH looked to be moving well through the centre and Frost's spoiling seems to have come a long way. There were many times last year where his fist would land the ball in the arms an opposition player so it's nice to see some improvement in this area.}

_{-     The groups then swapped. Harmes' kicking was an early standout in this group while OMac looked composed during the times the ball came to ground. He was surprisingly clean below his knees.}

_{-     Viney was in this group and while he didn't see much of the Sherrin, he didn't look in any discomfort. Brayshaw also continued his handy AFLX form with a great tackle on Pedders. Here's hoping for a 22 game season from Gus}

_{A few separate drills around Gosch's then followed with players rotating between them every five minutes or so.}

_{-      The drill closest to me involved players kicking around the man standing on the mark to a teammate standing near an opposition player. The kicking was a real highlight here, particularly from the likes of Hogan and Maynard.}

_{-     The second drill focused on clean hands with players being required to crumb a loose ball and hand passing it to a teammate, who would then kick to a loose player. I didn’t see much of this drill so I can’t pick out many stand out players.}

_{-      The third drill involved players finding a target amongst those 'fake player' stands. The wind was fairly strong at this point which meant for some occasional missed targets. Lewis and surprisingly Mitch King were those I don’t remember missing a target in the gale.}

 

<sub>The next drill involved all players and was a kicking drill where players could practice their 30-40 meter passes. Not too much too report here aside from some lovely bullet passes from Hibberd and the Zooper specialist Melksham. Dion Johnston also has a handy kicking action and didn't miss many targets.

Some more green vs blue match simulation drills then followed. Some more observations.</sub>

_{-      Hannan was everywhere in the first few minutes, kicking two goals including one with a lovely snap from the boundary (Edit from five minutes later: fantastic bit of play where he stepped around two players and passed it beautifully to Bugg in the pocket. Second edit: Hannan kicks another with a straightforward set shot. Absolutely on fire!}

_{-      A perfect Garlett pass from the boundary then finds Tommy Bugg who kicks truly from 20m out.}

_{-      One player who caught my eye was our prized recruit Jake Lever. He moves incredibly well for someone his size and his defensive pressure his first class. We've picked up a good one here.}

_{-      A training highlight then followed as Gus unloaded from 60m with a massive bomb to bring up six points. I honestly didn't know that he had that in him!}

 

_{Players then split into three groups (Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards) and began working through some separate drills. I left fairly soon afterwards. Also, from what I could see. There was no Tyson, Vandenburg. McKenna, Baker or Spargo.}

_{Happy to fill in any blanks if anyone has any questions.}

 

That is a rip roaring training report, DJ.  Fantastic stuff!

11 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

_{Some more observations.}

_{-      Hannan was everywhere in the first few minutes, kicking two goals including one with a lovely snap from the boundary (Edit from five minutes later: fantastic bit of play where he stepped around two players and passed it beautifully to Bugg in the pocket. Second edit: Hannan kicks another with a straightforward set shot. Absolutely on fire!} 

 

Absolutely awesome wrap up of the session DJ, thanks very much. I could almost smell the grass.

Loved this summary of Hannam, hoping for big things from him this year.

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Are we training with Port Adelaide this week or something? 

No but two of our Favourite Jacks are

nice work demon jack

with spargo, baker and filipovic heading down to tassie early, do we presume that they're NOT playing jlt1?

Great report @Demon Jack the medium sized forward role is up for grabs Melksham put his marker down in AFLX, Hannan has runs on the board from last year, Kent is now fully fit, Pedo wants a game and there are the resting mids

All the above lifted for today's session

 

 

5 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

nice work demon jack

with spargo, baker and filipovic heading down to tassie early, do we presume that they're NOT playing jlt1?

Reckon Goodwin will go with a recognizable side and do what he did last year, anybody who stands out in Casey practice games will get a go ahead of non performers or injuries in JLT, eg Hannan

I also spoke to Dom Tyson, as reported on club website, a calf strain

He reckons another week, running 3/4 pace today, as expected totally [censored] off at the timing

Edited February 21, 20187 yr by Satyriconhome

Anyone know what’s wrong with Garlett?

He seems to have been in and out of rehab all summer.

3 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Anyone know what’s wrong with Garlett?

He seems to have been in and out of rehab all summer.

He looked good today 

36 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I also spoke to Dom Tyson, as reported on club website, a calf strain

He reckons another week, running 3/4 pace today, as expected totally [censored] off at the timing

Thanks for the updates Saty, much appreciated. How are the Smith's and Jeffy going? 

19 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Anyone know what’s wrong with Garlett?

He seems to have been in and out of rehab all summer.

Could just be a load thing?

He tends to really slow down towards the end of a season, so maybe they are not pushing him so hard this early to try and sustain him for the later stages of the year? Just a guess. 

Pretty sure Jeffy looks pretty lackluster every preseason but comes out firing when the season begins. 

7 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Pretty sure Jeffy looks pretty lackluster every preseason but comes out firing when the season begins. 

Laconic is the word you want, always looks like he going to his execution when walking to training

He is super fit though, him and Nev are having their loads carefully managed

Hunt is the same, but did whole session today

 

Edited February 21, 20187 yr by Satyriconhome

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Thanks for the updates Saty, much appreciated. How are the Smith's and Jeffy going? 

As fo the Smiths both with main group now, complimented Misso for his team getting the players back in great shape from rehab, both didn't miss a beat whole session same with Weid

When do Casey start having some practice matches for those who'll miss out on the JLT, round 1 etc..? 

15 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Laconic is the word you want

No, it's not.  Someone who is laconic is one who says very little.  A man of few words if you like.

'Laconic' is one of those words that most, including journalists, consistently get wrong.  They (and you) seem to think it means the same as laid-back, low-key or lackadaisical.

11 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

As fo the Smiths both with main group now, complimented Misso for his team getting the players back in great shape from rehab, both didn't miss a beat whole session same with Weid

A bit of levity , there were 3 cars driving on a country road, in  the leading car  there was Mr Jones, behind him was the Smith family and then the Ball family in the third car

Unfortunately Mr Jones misjudged a bend, lost control and crashed into a tree with his  car catching fire

Thankfully he was pulled from the burning wreck by the Smiths

8 minutes ago, demonstone said:

No, it's not.  Someone who is laconic is one who says very little.  A man of few words if you like.

'Laconic' is one of those words that most, including journalists, consistently get wrong.  They (and you) seem to think it means the same as laid-back, low-key or lackadaisical.

Is that similar to the misuse of [censored] retentive?

 

Edited February 21, 20187 yr by Satyriconhome