6 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/paul-roos-how-i-feel-about-gws/

not sure if this has been shared previously but found this really interesting and open take from Roos on the creation of GWS 

 

Onya Roosy...

keep wearing that Melbourne Scarf

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It might be that Sydney (the city) doesn't have much interest in attending anything. The first week of NRL Finals (4 games) attracted only 75,000 in total, with the largest crowd (about 22,000) being in Melbourne. That doesn't mean the GWS experiment is a failure...just that anyone expecting Sydney residents to buy a ticket to watch them might have over-estimated the willingness of Sydney-based supporters to bother turning up.

West Sydney Wanderers had 62K turn up for round 1 of the A league last year, not even a final. and this is a team that has only been around as long GWS with much less money behind them

no-one goes to NRL coz its shyte

57 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I should have added that there's insufficient evidence to also claim that the creation of GWS has been a success. 

I've consistently supported the principle behind the establishment of GWS and the Gold Coast Suns, but I'm not convinced that we know yet whether the investments in either jurisdiction will become long-term successes or failures. 

does that mean you can keep on saying that for a long time? 

Pathetic crowd for a final but it is what it is, if the Giants had more support they would get more into the ground.

Good to see the home side getting a home side advantage, Geelong fans were rightly [censored] off V Richmond last week playing them on the Tigers home ground in front of 80,000 feral Tiger fans - it was hardly reward for effort over the season.

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

does that mean you can keep on saying that for a long time? 

Yep. I'll keep saying it until it's proven to be a success. The jury will continue to stay out otherwise. 

1 hour ago, Big Demon said:

Pathetic crowd for a final but it is what it is, if the Giants had more support they would get more into the ground.

Good to see the home side getting a home side advantage, Geelong fans were rightly [censored] off V Richmond last week playing them on the Tigers home ground in front of 80,000 feral Tiger fans - it was hardly reward for effort over the season.

Perhaps that balances a whole year of home ground advantage that other vic clubs don't really have anymore.

So it's unanimous, we all agree that Swans had no hope winning their game from the start. So it was all over as it looked.... 

The AFL should have scheduled the game in Canberra. Would have sold out, satisfied the 'home game' requirement of GWS and would have looked better on TV.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/greater-western-sydney-giants/once-nervous-about-greater-western-sydney-the-nrl-now-sees-them-as-an-asset-20170918-gyjpw4.html

a muddled article but a thought piece

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/18/never-surrender-gws-ready-to-enter-mcg-bear-pit-for-afl-preliminary-final

more interesting perhaps

22 hours ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

https://www.playersvoice.com.au/paul-roos-how-i-feel-about-gws/

not sure if this has been shared previously but found this really interesting and open take from Roos on the creation of GWS 

 

Thanks for sharing Roos' thoughts with us   -   and nice to hear him say that he is a Dees supporter.  

Only 3000 Giants fans have bought tickets for the Prelim.

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Only 3000 Giants fans have bought tickets for the Prelim.

Surprised that it is so high...

One could be cynical and suggest that a few of those tickets are being bought for the resale market.

11 hours ago, Demonland said:

Only 3000 Giants fans have bought tickets for the Prelim.

That is assuming that he, being the (solitary) Giants fan didn't buy 3000, with a big subsidy from the AFL. 

I have no love for Richmond but I hope they win on the weekend. This is purely on the basis of the happiness for the greatest number of fellow footy supporters.

If GWS win about 30 players, their families, some paid staff, some paid supporters and a few actual supporters, a total of maybe 2K people will be happy. Compare that to the number of Richmond fans. However much you might find them distasteful, they are footy fans.

42 minutes ago, sue said:

I have no love for Richmond but I hope they win on the weekend. This is purely on the basis of the happiness for the greatest number of fellow footy supporters.

If GWS win about 30 players, their families, some paid staff, some paid supporters and a few actual supporters, a total of maybe 2K people will be happy. Compare that to the number of Richmond fans. However much you might find them distasteful, they are footy fans.

You've forgotten all the "anyone but Richmond" fans. There should be plenty of them about, but whether they're interested in actually attending is a different issue. 

I used to be an "anyone but Collingwood" fan but one of Eddie's great failings is that rather than Collingwood being despised as they used to be, they've now just become a bit meh. Instead, I've switched allegiance to "anyone but Richmond". 

Edited September 19, 20178 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia
Changed "hated" to "despised". A better word

The Giants are smarted than all of yous.

I found this bit interesting from the article Roos wrote:

"Let’s be perfectly frank. The reason the Giants exist is because North Melbourne didn’t go to the Gold Coast.... If North Melbourne had gone to the Gold Coast there would have still been 16 teams. North Melbourne refused to go to the Gold Coast, so what did Andrew Demetriou do? He created a new team...You can’t have a 17-team competition..."

Do people think this would have been the case?

Having a bye every weekend wouldn't have been great so maybe we would have stayed on 16 teams for about a while, say 10 years until the AFL decided to introduce Tassie and GWS to have even numbers. 

 

17 teams? While a bye during the season may be uncontroversial, they'd be a lot of fuss if a team about to play in the finals had a bye in the last round. Similarly the team that missed round 1 might be miffed since they'd be playing a team in round 2 that already had some real match experience.

46 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

I found this bit interesting from the article Roos wrote:

"Let’s be perfectly frank. The reason the Giants exist is because North Melbourne didn’t go to the Gold Coast.... If North Melbourne had gone to the Gold Coast there would have still been 16 teams. North Melbourne refused to go to the Gold Coast, so what did Andrew Demetriou do? He created a new team...You can’t have a 17-team competition..."

Do people think this would have been the case?

Having a bye every weekend wouldn't have been great so maybe we would have stayed on 16 teams for about a while, say 10 years until the AFL decided to introduce Tassie and GWS to have even numbers. 

 

An alternative possibility would be that if North went to the Gold Coast, there would still have been expansion to 18 teams with new teams in Western Sydney and Tasmania.

On 9/19/2017 at 9:53 AM, Diamond_Jim said:

Surprised that it is so high...

One could be cynical and suggest that a few of those tickets are being bought for the resale market.

Apparently a lot of fans of other clubs buy the 3 game Giants membership because it includes access to finals tickets. So if your clubs playing finals and you expect the clubs allotment to run out quickly, pretty much guarantees you can get finals tickets through GWS.

Edited September 20, 20178 yr by Wadda We Sing

20 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Apparently a lot of fans of other clubs buy the 3 game Giants membership because it includes access to finals tickets. So if your clubs playing finals and you expect the clubs allotment to run out quickly, pretty much guarantees you can get finals tickets through GWS.

people used to that in the old days with fitzroy memberships... admittedly it was full membership but it worked because the clubs got equal access IIRC

Fascinating that it might still work 50 years on

cheers

18 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

people used to that in the old days with fitzroy memberships... admittedly it was full membership but it worked because the clubs got equal access IIRC

Fascinating that it might still work 50 years on

cheers

Apparently it does. Most of my uncles and also my grandfather were Fitzroy. Growing up I always had a soft spot because the colors were so similar, also we could generally beat them. i went to that last game vs Richmond....people burning their scarfs etc. F the corporate game. You will never replace that history.