2 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

All the Watts lovers are under an illusion that there is something more going on. They can't face the reality that he's been nothing more than a depth player for 9 seasons (1 decent season) and has been dropped most seasons because he doesn't go hard at the ball.

Not every player needs to be a Sherman Tank

the kicking into our forward line this year was average to poor

Losing Watts won’t help that area

For mine, the alarm bells have been ringing since our no 1 pick after having five or six years in the system, had to drop himself. How the f&$k does that happen.?? How about just work harder and get a bloody hard ball or two, it's not rocket science.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You are entitled to your opinion 55

Jack played some good games this year, and some average ones. But his delisting has been quick and cold

something else is in the mix, i don’t know what it is. But i don’t believe what the media is saying either. 

(2 strikes maybe....)

Usually agree with you SWYL, and respect your comments.

But that sort of innuendo has no place 

4 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Yikes!

 

Geez SWYL, why dont you hang draw and quarter the bloke!

Totally agree..classic keyboard warrioring from SWYL who is usually a little bit better than that.

Edited October 16, 20178 yr by Salems Lot

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Yikes!

 

Geez SWYL, why dont you hang draw and quarter the bloke!

32 years in the media Fault

i think stories are being with held

just a hunch

it’s too cold and calculated

Talking in the echo chamber that is this thread; I was always a huge fan of Jack's (as I am of all our players) but even after 9 years I still went to the game wondering if this would be Jack's breakout game.

The MFC is bigger than the individual. I am sure they are making the correcr decision. We dont know exactly what has gone on off-field. Obviously its not upto club standards.

I will back in Goody and the footy department. 

If you listened to Goodwins B&F speech you would probably agree...

Whether it be Port or Geelong that he goes to there is a massive chance he doesn't make the cut at those clubs and is delisted and out of the game in 2 years. 

4 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

Talking in the echo chamber that is this thread; I was always a huge fan of Jack's (as I am of all our players) but even after 9 years I still went to the game wondering if this would be Jack's breakout game.

And generally, SL, he was playing when you went to those games (meaning he was getting games!).

The club has clearly had enough.  So they should, and so should its supporters.

I've been a big Watts fan/defender for many years.  But, in the interest of both Jack and the MFC, it's time.  I will miss him, but feel that after about Round 5 in 2018, we'll be wondering why it took so long to do it.

Edited October 16, 20178 yr by The Chazz
the bit in brackets in the first sentence.

 

7 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

The MFC is bigger than the individual. I am sure they are making the correcr decision. We dont know exactly what has gone on off-field. Obviously its not upto club standards.

I will back in Goody and the footy department. 

If you listened to Goodwins B&F speech you would probably agree...

You make a lot of sense

but what i don’t get is JW did a lot of servicable Ruck work this year when Max went down. And before his injury he was playing some good footy and kicking long goals. 

For him to be on the outer so quick means he has done something we have not been told...

 

18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You are entitled to your opinion 55

Jack played some good games this year, and some average ones. But his delisting has been quick and cold

something else is in the mix, i don’t know what it is. But i don’t believe what the media is saying either. 

(2 strikes maybe....)

ahh the good old conspiracy theory - Elvis is still alive and living above a pharmacy with Amy Winehouse & Michael Jackson some where in the Caribbean. man never walked on the moon etc, etc, etc

Your sense of humour is second to none on this site, you are the Gatis Kandis of Demonland.  

His performances during our 2 week regional back water tour of late July / early August were surely the final nails in the coffin.

Not even sure why they bothered bringing him back for the Collingwood rd 23 game if they were pushing him out of the door.

2 minutes ago, DaveyDee said:

ahh the good old conspiracy theory - Elvis is still alive and living above a pharmacy with Amy Winehouse & Michael Jackson some where in the Caribbean. man never walked on the moon etc, etc, etc

Your sense of humour is second to none on this site, you are the Gatis Kandis of Demonland.  

Man most definately walked on the moon. 

Buzz Aldren would punch the crap out of you

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

32 years in the media Fault

i think stories are being with held

just a hunch

it’s too cold and calculated

It's probably something his family wouldn't want to read on here mate.

Let's talk about Stringer instead........

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

His performances during our 2 week regional back water tour of late July / early August were surely the final nails in the coffin.

Not even sure why they bothered bringing him back for the Collingwood rd 23 game if they were pushing him out of the door.

He wasn’t alone...

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

It's probably something his family wouldn't want to read on here mate.

Let's talk about Stringer instead........

Too late for that

SEN run Jack Promos every single20 minutes

the Birds are feeding

Nah but srsly how’s this weather?!

Edited October 16, 20178 yr by stevethemanjordan

Man, that 08 draft hurt us so much. Not just Watts, but also Blease and Strauss. The other players taken in the draft were:

- Hannebery
- Beams
-Zaharakis
-Sloane
-Sidebottom
-Ziebell
-Phil Davis
- Hurley
-Tom Lynch
-Hartlett
-S.Hill
-Nic Nat
-Walters
-Shuey
-Ballantyne
- Jetta
-M.Robinson
- L.Jones (only started to come good now)

Ouch
 

 

 

1 minute ago, Dr.D said:

Man, that 08 draft hurt us so much. Not just Watts, but also Blease and Strauss. The other players taken in the draft were:

- Hannebery
- Beams
-Zaharakis
-Sloane
-Sidebottom
-Ziebell
-Phil Davis
- Hurley
-Tom Lynch
-Hartlett
-S.Hill
-Nic Nat
-Walters
-Shuey
-Ballantyne
- Jetta
-M.Robinson
- L.Jones (only started to come good now)

Ouch
 

 

 

So is it recruitment or development....? 

6 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Nah but srsly how’s this weather?!

Apart from the pollens molesting my eyes and nose it ain't bad. Gotta wait for it to cool down though before taking my puppy for a walk.

5 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Man, that 08 draft hurt us so much. Not just Watts, but also Blease and Strauss. The other players taken in the draft were:

- Hannebery
- Beams
-Zaharakis
-Sloane
-Sidebottom
-Ziebell
-Phil Davis
- Hurley
-Tom Lynch
-Hartlett
-S.Hill
-Nic Nat
-Walters
-Shuey
-Ballantyne
- Jetta
-M.Robinson
- L.Jones (only started to come good now)

Ouch
 

 

 

The beginning of the dark

2 minutes ago, SFebey said:

So is it recruitment or development....? 

No idea. I still don't know why Blease and Tapscott didn't make the grade.

6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Man, that 08 draft hurt us so much. Not just Watts, but also Blease and Strauss. The other players taken in the draft were:

- Hannebery
- Beams
-Zaharakis
-Sloane
-Sidebottom
-Ziebell
-Phil Davis
- Hurley
-Tom Lynch
-Hartlett
-S.Hill
-Nic Nat
-Walters
-Shuey
-Ballantyne
- Jetta
-M.Robinson
- L.Jones (only started to come good now)

Ouch
 

 

 

And didn't Prendergast promise Mr and Mrs Sloane that we'd pick his son up at 17 or 19. We proceeded to use those picks on Blease and Strauss. If that's not bad enough, we then chose Bennell at 36 while Sloan was still on the board.

Or what about a year later having 4 cracks at a National Draft in the top 20 and yet still not picking Fyfe (pick 20).

Morons. 

58 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

I'm not saying people are wrong for questioning FD decisions, but they have nothing on the line. So without evidence these serious allegations just show how out of touch people are. Why would they (the FD) sabotage their own jobs and reputations??

Exactly UH, I asked the exact same thing earlier in the thread (probably 100 pages ago now) and the only answer I received were some vague conspiracies with no tangible substance or clear arguments at all. Just waffle about "more going on than there seems" etc 

Another question I had which went unanswered - some on here have said Jack was regularly ignored by teammates on the field after leading, making good position etc However they have also argued that Watts is universally loved by the players who will be unhappy with the decision to trade him which could lead to dissension among the ranks. So which is it? Do they dislike him and so don't kick it to him or his he well-liked by the playing group?

Well done Goodwin-you proved you can make the hard decisions.

Now get a flag or pack your bags.