deebug 1,754 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, daisycutter said: It's sad when the meaning of english words get expanded and twisted to fit whatever the latest liberalist agenda of the day is gaff is not a victim. he is a protagonist just having to deal with the consequences of his unsocial and stupid actions next we will call criminals the victims because they have to do a stretch in the big house When i was at Uni one day, one of the teachers told a story of this guy breaking into a house; well there to meet this would be slime #(&^$ was the pet dog who soon turned him into a chew toy. The a## hole whilst in prison, sued to the homeowner to get the dog put down because he was injured and suffering. Now at this point i said WHAT? the teacher gave me this look and a half, he won his case to have the poor animal put down. So if your dog goes to protect you and your home, he/she should stay eating their bone in the corner, whilst you get the c&%^ taking out of you. Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said: They can both be victims. Brayshaw is a victim of the physical impact while Gaff may be a psychological victim from feeling guilty. The fact that Gaff made the violent contact does not stop him from being a victim albeit one that was self-imposed. One had to eat through a straw for over a month and still has “dead teeth” which may never recover. The other made a decision and then kept running. Spare me the violins ? please.... Quote
dworship 3,343 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, daisycutter said: It's sad when the meaning of english words get expanded and twisted to fit whatever the latest liberalist agenda of the day is gaff is not a victim. he is a protagonistt just having to deal with the consequences of his unsocial and stupid actions next we will call criminals victims because they have to do a stretch in the big house Sorry DC, you need to look up the meaning of protagonist. Gaff is a perpetrator and by extension most definitely not a victim. 2 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 4 hours ago, My name is legion said: That newspaper is toilet paper only. Poor writing, extremely poor editing and copy checking (spelling and grammar atrocious in almost every article) and heavy political bias to the left of Stalin. Hi Andrew Bolt! 1 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 10 hours ago, dworship said: Sorry DC, you need to look up the meaning of protagonist. Gaff is a perpetrator and by extension most definitely not a victim. oops sorry... you're correct dw. i meant to say perpetrator. put it down to a senior brain fart Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 13, 2018 Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) I reckon we should be into Andrew Brayshaw all year, just like Dockers have done with JH. Surely Andrew would feel the pull of family and wanting to play at MFC with Gus. Bad luck if we destabilize the Dockers. Edited November 13, 2018 by Redleg Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 17 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: One had to eat through a straw for over a month and still has “dead teeth” which may never recover. The other made a decision and then kept running. Spare me the violins ? please.... I said he was a victim who inflicted it upon himself. I didn't say anyone had to feel sorry for him. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said: I said he was a victim who inflicted it upon himself. I didn't say anyone had to feel sorry for him. bad choice of word (victim) then. "suffering the consequences of his actions" would be more appropriate 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said: I said he was a victim who inflicted it upon himself. I didn't say anyone had to feel sorry for him. He is not a victim at all. He instigated the action, soley 100% himself the Victim has a smashed jaw and dead teeth ? i must be old school, but i don’t feel sorry for Gaff at all. I saw the incident live and could not believe it. Assault is what i call it. 1 Quote
Bay Riffin 1,518 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Redleg said: I reckon we should be into Andrew Brayshaw all year, just like Dockers have done with JH. Surely Andrew would feel the pull of family and wanting to play at MFC with Gus. Bad luck if we destabilize the Dockers. absolutely, even moreso if they have a poor year and don't look like improving. Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: He is not a victim at all. He instigated the action, soley 100% himself the Victim has a smashed jaw and dead teeth ? i must be old school, but i don’t feel sorry for Gaff at all. I saw the incident live and could not believe it. Assault is what i call it. Well if you saw it you would know that Gaff tried to hit him in the chest. Not excusing it, but it is probably helpful to state facts. You have like myself probably seen the incident replayed many times and would have seen Brayshaw lower slightly, meaning at the time the punch connected, his head was at the position his chest was just before. Look at Gaff’s arm and fist at contact Given that and Gaffs history and comments after, it is open to believe that Gaff never intended to hit him in the mouth. I don’t think he intended what happened, but it is what it is. He deserved hi penalty. 2 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Redleg said: Well if you saw it you would know that Gaff tried to hit him in the chest. Not excusing it, but it is probably helpful to state facts. You have like myself probably seen the incident replayed many times and would have seen Brayshaw lower slightly, meaning at the time the punch connected, his head was at the position his chest was just before. Look at Gaff’s arm and fist at contact Given that and Gaffs history and comments after, it is open to believe that Gaff never intended to hit him in the mouth. I don’t think he intended what happened, but it is what it is. He deserved hi penalty. No, Gaff was not aiming for the chest. I don’t buy that. That is your opinion Red, but not mine He lined him up, connected and then kept running.... Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: No, Gaff was not aiming for the chest. I don’t buy that. That is your opinion Red, but not mine He lined him up, connected and then kept running.... How do I post a photo? Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, Redleg said: How do I post a photo? I saw a low uppercut, so i have never thought the chest was the intended target. It just sounds less evil Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: I saw a low uppercut, so i have never thought the chest was the intended target. It just sounds less evil I repeat, how do you post a photo from i phone onto here? Edited November 14, 2018 by Redleg Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Sorry for the delay I just worked out how to do it. Anyway both players are about the same height and you can see Brayshaw lower his height as the punch came. It clearly altered the target. Look where Gaff's fist would have struck if Brayshaw was standing up. If that is an uppercut it has come from a long way down. To me he wanted to hit him in the chest or even lower towards the gut. Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Redleg said: Sorry for the delay I just worked out how to do it. Anyway both players are about the same height and you can see Brayshaw lower his height as the punch came. It clearly altered the target. Look where Gaff's fist would have struck if Brayshaw was standing up. If that is an uppercut it has come from a long way down. To me he wanted to hit him in the chest or even lower towards the gut. But did you actually? I can't see anything. Quote
Adam The God 30,740 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, daisycutter said: oops sorry... you're correct dw. i meant to say perpetrator. put it down to a senior brain fart Is that what we should pop your alarmist politics down to as well? Old age? Left of Stalin. What rubbish. The Age lost its way a while ago, but mostly because of who sat on its board and made the decisions. As for the topic, Gaff hit Brayshaw and should cop the penalty. If we're talking politically left, I'd say the sentiments around the Gaff hit were that violent actions on the field should perhaps be dealt with in a similar manner to violent acts off the field. I can see the thinking, but I'm not for it as it's a contact [censored] sport. Edited November 14, 2018 by A F Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Watts the matter said: But did you actually? I can't see anything. That’s funny the pictures came up on the computer when I posted but are not on the iPhone. Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: I saw a low uppercut, so i have never thought the chest was the intended target. It just sounds less evil Considering old man Brayshaw confirmed it himself, you should probably look to climb down off that high horse. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, A F said: Is that what we should pop your alarmist politics down to as well? Old age? Left of Stalin. What rubbish. The Age lost its way a while ago, but mostly because of who sat on its board and made the decisions. As for the topic, Gaff hit Brayshaw and should cop the penalty. If we're talking politically left, I'd say the sentiments around the Gaff hit were that violent actions on the field should perhaps be dealt with in a similar manner to violent acts off the field. I can see the thinking, but I'm not for it as it's a contact [censored] sport. alarmist politics, left of stalin?............are you confusing me with another poster perchance? Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Didn't watch any Freo games this year aside from our game. What kind of player is Brayshaw? Or will become? Edited November 14, 2018 by John Demonic Quote
doug williams 49 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Yes! Let's grab Andrew Brayshaw and Zac Jones as well. 2 Quote
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