Someone mentioned in another thread the idea of Col Garland being retained on the coaching panel.  Dunno if they had inside knowledge, but it's just been announced that Col has been appointed as the Player Development Coach of the women's team.  Well done, Col!

 

6 hours ago, rjay said:

I can't see Spencer being offered a 3 year contract anywhere else but I guess stranger things have happened.

He's a depth ruckman at best...

If it can happen to Witts...

6 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

If it can happen to Witts...

About 4 years younger and a few good games AFL level though 'Dappa'...

At 24 he's right in the zone, like him or not they have some development time left with him.

I think with Jake he will be hoping for another year with us and that might see him out.

Not a lot of games but a pretty well paid job that will set him up nicely.

A lot of people confusing end of year delistings, with player trades.

Spencil for example, I can't see any way he would be delisted, but I can see him leaving to seek opportunities elsewhere, or being traded.

Delisted..off-our-listed....

Understand different but think the majority might just view it as who's not here ...later on...for whatever.

On 06/06/2017 at 10:08 PM, Biffen said:

I don't reckon Hulett will make it.

 

Serious question re Hulett .....have you actually seen much of him at VFL ?

Has always looked a good build on the track  

 

It may be so at this point of time that King is below par when comparisons are made to Spencer,yet Spencer won't see daylight (seniors) if Gawn is fully fit. King is seven years younger than Spencer which acts in his favour.Besides Spencer may not want to be a shadow ruckman and that's all he will be. If KIng can overcome his injuries he will be good for the club. I still stick to my statement Spencer to be traded.

Spencer is a free agent...he can go wherever he wants.

Edited June 9, 20178 yr by Good Times Grimes

14 hours ago, monoccular said:

Serious question re Hulett .....have you actually seen much of him at VFL ?

Has always looked a good build on the track  

 

I've seen Hulett often.  He's a good mark and a very good kick particularly for goal. I think Biff's assessment of skills is wrong but his assessment is probably right.  I'm doubtful he'll make it but don't think he's delist material yet. 

Just now, Vogon Poetry said:

I've seen Hulett often.  He's a good mark and a very good kick particularly for goal. I think Biff's assessment of skills is wrong but his assessment is probably right.  I'm doubtful he'll make it but don't think he's delist material yet. 

So have I, Hulett is another who hasn't had a clean run at it yet,  and out of necessity had to play as a defender for couple of games

Last week against Coburg he played his role and a good solid game and got kudos from Plapp for doing so

Not sure which bit some supporters don't get, we have the luxury now of allowing players to develop over time

Last week also Casey had no ruckman for 3/4 of the game, so had to throw the Weed in, he didn't disgrace himself so may have given the coaches a bit of food for thought, also Keilty is being built properly as well and can play ruck, defender or forward

For what it is worth we only have to delist 2, Lumumbas spot wasn't filled, I sadly think at this stage one will be Trengove and the other possibly BenKen

Think maybe Col Garland will give it away to concentrate on coaching

Also on that, with young Pat McKenna out long term, they have him working with the Casey coaches on match day to make sure injury doesn't mean a stall in development 

We do things properly now

51 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

So have I, Hulett is another who hasn't had a clean run at it yet,  and out of necessity had to play as a defender for couple of games

Last week against Coburg he played his role and a good solid game and got kudos from Plapp for doing so

Not sure which bit some supporters don't get, we have the luxury now of allowing players to develop over time

Last week also Casey had no ruckman for 3/4 of the game, so had to throw the Weed in, he didn't disgrace himself so may have given the coaches a bit of food for thought, also Keilty is being built properly as well and can play ruck, defender or forward

For what it is worth we only have to delist 2, Lumumbas spot wasn't filled, I sadly think at this stage one will be Trengove and the other possibly BenKen

Think maybe Col Garland will give it away to concentrate on coaching

Also on that, with young Pat McKenna out long term, they have him working with the Casey coaches on match day to make sure injury doesn't mean a stall in development 

We do things properly now

Joel Smith signed for 2 years Saty, will take Lumumbas spot. 

56 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Not sure which bit some supporters don't get, we have the luxury now of allowing players to develop over time

 

We may well do things properly now but that doesn't change the fact that not all players that are signed to a list, stay on that list.

Speculating on who will make it or not is part of being a supporter and is welcome discussion on a forum like this.

I agree with Biff. I don't think there's a future for Hullett at the MFC based on what I've seen of him, regardless of his development. 

He doesn't possess anything we're crying out for attribute-wise. He is just a solid foot-soldier.

Ive no issue offering Spencer a 2 year contract as cover. Get games into King and flip and by the end of 2018 the FD will ne well awsre of where our future stocks are at

4 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

We may well do things properly now but that doesn't change the fact that not all players that are signed to a list, stay on that list.

Speculating on who will make it or not is part of being a supporter and is welcome discussion on a forum like this.

I agree with Biff. I don't think there's a future for Hullett at the MFC based on what I've seen of him, regardless of his development. 

He doesn't possess anything we're crying out for attribute-wise. He is just a solid foot-soldier.

Hulett looks like a suburban footballer. Could dominate a game due to his superior phsical prowess, but as you say, I don't see anything in his game that translates to AFL level. Another Leigh Williams in my opinion.

8 hours ago, ENYAW said:

It may be so at this point of time that King is below par when comparisons are made to Spencer,yet Spencer won't see daylight (seniors) if Gawn is fully fit. King is seven years younger than Spencer which acts in his favour.Besides Spencer may not want to be a shadow ruckman and that's all he will be. If KIng can overcome his injuries he will be good for the club. I still stick to my statement Spencer to be traded.

Probably good for Spencer . I remember when Jolly was traded ! Very good for Jolly . Two premierships in his career after being moved on in a trade ! 

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Hulett looks like a suburban footballer. Could dominate a game due to his superior phsical prowess, but as you say, I don't see anything in his game that translates to AFL level. Another Leigh Williams in my opinion.

Yes but that's your opinion, I have a different one, doesn't mean either of us are right

5 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

We may well do things properly now but that doesn't change the fact that not all players that are signed to a list, stay on that list.

Speculating on who will make it or not is part of being a supporter and is welcome discussion on a forum like this.

I agree with Biff. I don't think there's a future for Hullett at the MFC based on what I've seen of him, regardless of his development. 

He doesn't possess anything we're crying out for attribute-wise. He is just a solid foot-soldier.

Your opinion

9 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Your opinion

I'm sure Steve appreciates the reminder that what he posted was his opinion.  I'm not sure whose opinion he thought he was posting.

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes but that's your opinion, I have a different one, doesn't mean either of us are right

I can understand why you defend him saty, it's his guns isn't it??

12 hours ago, Good Times Grimes said:

Spencer is a free agent...he can go wherever he wants.

He's a RFA. We have the option to match or better any offer he may (will probably) receive. I doubt we would. 

4 minutes ago, M_9 said:

He's a RFA. We have the option to match or better any offer he may (will probably) receive. I doubt we would. 

No he's not: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-free-agents-2017-official-list-of-restricted-unrestricted-free-agents-revealed/news-story/25cf1a373d6626218a613c490f03003b

I hope that we can keep him, but I suspect he'll get a better offer from elsewhere.

5 minutes ago, Good Times Grimes said:

No he's not: http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-free-agents-2017-official-list-of-restricted-unrestricted-free-agents-revealed/news-story/25cf1a373d6626218a613c490f03003b

I hope that we can keep him, but I suspect he'll get a better offer from elsewhere.

Yeah, I was wrong. I was thinking of the old rule (the '8 and 10 year business'). There's clubs screaming out for an experienced ruckman, and Spencer is handy around the ground.

Jake will want to try his hand elsewhere I would think, and you can hardly blame him. I wondering if the fact that the Weid was given a short run in the ruck at Casey last week means anything, partic. with King, Tim Smith, Keilty, and Huelett on the ground at the time.

The Weid did some ruck work at TAC level, but needs a solid pre-season or two in the gym for whatever spot he plays.

13 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

So have I, Hulett is another who hasn't had a clean run at it yet,  and out of necessity had to play as a defender for couple of games

Last week against Coburg he played his role and a good solid game and got kudos from Plapp for doing so

e Trengove and the other possibly BenKen

 

A couple quick questions Saty if I may;

Why do you say Hullet has had to play as a defender for Casey 'out of necessity'? Have they had holes back there or it is it a Roos-Fitzpatrick style move as a last ditch effort?

And what is it about Benken specifically that makes you think he may be delisted? Something you've picked up on around the boys or just a hunch with non-selection etc?

On 08/06/2017 at 3:12 PM, rjay said:

About 4 years younger and a few good games AFL level though 'Dappa'...

At 24 he's right in the zone, like him or not they have some development time left with him.

I think with Jake he will be hoping for another year with us and that might see him out.

Not a lot of games but a pretty well paid job that will set him up nicely.

I'm all for that. I like spencer in the list. It didn't work cos of shocking luck for us, but if we went into next year even with a fully fit gawn, we need a good backup, and spence is low cost. Every club needs someone like him. He'll be on afl lists and oddly... have a full career, even if he doesn't play much footy. A bit like backup qbs in the NFL. 

9 hours ago, Skuit said:

A couple quick questions Saty if I may;

Why do you say Hullet has had to play as a defender for Casey 'out of necessity'? Have they had holes back there or it is it a Roos-Fitzpatrick style move as a last ditch effort?

And what is it about Benken specifically that makes you think he may be delisted? Something you've picked up on around the boys or just a hunch with non-selection etc?

A lack of tall defenders for a couple of weeks at Casey meant Hulett played there, it probably aided his development

BenKen is behind Garlett, JKH, ANB and I think Dion Johnstone in FD thinking