Trade rumours

[daisycutter 29,613]

1 minute ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Did the compensation formula take into account the CBA increase?

errrr, ....like the 2 rnd 1 pick rule, the steve hocking afl have.... errrr.... delayed that to 2019

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

errrr, ....like the 2 rnd 1 pick rule, the steve hocking afl have.... errrr.... delayed that to 2019

Why don't the cats just offer up the next 5 years of first round picks for dusty? Surely the AFL can postpone a little longer?

[SFebes 4,884]

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

same as dawes, and that was pre cba. so the afl classifies him for top compo. joke joyce.

 

8 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Did the compensation formula take into account the CBA increase?

Interesting...

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,726]

I'm not going to complain about compo picks seeing as we previously got pick 3 for Frawley and a pick in the early 20's for Sylvia. It has been good to us.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

12 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Did the compensation formula take into account the CBA increase?

I think you are being generous by calling it a "formula". I don't think there is much method to the madness.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

It's interesting seeing the contrasting list development strategies between us and Port. They identify what they can pick up for free and work their game plan around that.We identify players that can play a set role for us and are willing to pay anything for them. Going to be interesting watching both teams through 2018.

[whatwhat say what 22,744]

2 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

It's interesting seeing the contrasting list development strategies between us and Port. They identify what they can pick up for free and work their game plan around that.We identify players that can play a set role for us and are willing to pay anything for them. Going to be interesting watching both teams through 2018.

big difference btw the two sides is the relative experience / age of the lists

port have a plethora of players aged 27-31 at the start of next season; if they're going to win a premiership, it should be in the next three to four years

we're more building with youth still - players aged 20-25 dominate our 'core players'

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

I see the AFL is helping Ablett get home by giving Geelong pick 19 as compensation for Motlop. 

Edited October 14, 2017 by Ethan Tremblay

[daisycutter 29,613]

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I see the AFL is helping Ablett get home by giving Geelong pick 19 as compensation for Motlop. 

helps having hocking inside the tent, ethan

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

Forgive my ignorance, but when the AFL give out the compo picks, does that not take away from another club / mess with the pick order? Didn't someone 'own' pick 19? 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

1 minute ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Forgive my ignorance, but when the AFL give out the compo picks, does that not take away from another club / mess with the pick order? Didn't someone 'own' pick 19? 

Brisbane had 19 before the Motlop deal.

[Wilson7 2,669]

Just now, Deemented Are Go! said:

Forgive my ignorance, but when the AFL give out the compo picks, does that not take away from another club / mess with the pick order? Didn't someone 'own' pick 19? 

Yep, now they have pick 20. We originally had pick 27 but it is now pick 29 after compo selections for Motlop & Rockliff.  It wouldn't bother me if they got rid of compensation picks when you lose a free agent

[Deemented Are Go! 3,677]

I see, thanks. So everyone suffers, basically ?

[Redleg 40,896]

31 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I see the AFL is helping Ablett get home by giving Geelong pick 19 as compensation for Motlop. 

But the Cats said they wouldn't part with 34, why would they part with 19? Now they will offer 34 to the Suns.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

They’ve probably been given 19 on the basis it’s on traded for Ablett.  This will be to help GCS. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

5 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

They’ve probably been given 19 on the basis it’s on traded for Ablett.  This will be to help GCS. 

Suns have stated from the start that they don't want picks, but a player instead.  They may have to relent in the end but I don't see it helping them get GAJ back to Geelong.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

They aren’t getting a player from Geelong of value. 19 might get them that player. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

Pick 19 for Motlop is a joke

Jeelong will be celebrating tonight

Jack Watts is of similiar worth, and we won’t get anywhere near 19 if a deal does get done. 

Jeelong, once again get the armchair ride for what they want. 

I am starting to REALLY hate them now, rather than just hating them...!

[Demons11 7,008]

5 hours ago, dl4e said:

Getting pick 19 for Motlop is deranged. Hocking well thats typical. He is probably the softest player in the AFL.

We got pick 3 for Frawley.  I wouldn't be whinging 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

4 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Forgive my ignorance, but when the AFL give out the compo picks, does that not take away from another club / mess with the pick order? Didn't someone 'own' pick 19? 

Every club pays the price for one compo pick. That's what's so sh!t about the system

[Redleg 40,896]

2 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

They’ve probably been given 19 on the basis it’s on traded for Ablett.  This will be to help GCS. 

Vogon, are you suggesting a conspiracy to corrupt the game?

[Redleg 40,896]

2 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

They aren’t getting a player from Geelong of value. 19 might get them that player. 

And how is the salary of Gary paid in advance then recouped, if they don't get a Cat's player who has part of his salary paid by the Cats?

[Redleg 40,896]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pick 19 for Motlop is a joke

Jeelong will be celebrating tonight

Jack Watts is of similiar worth, and we won’t get anywhere near 19 if a deal does get done. 

Jeelong, once again get the armchair ride for what they want. 

I am starting to REALLY hate them now, rather than just hating them...!

They are my most hated AFL club south of Werribee.

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

Just now, Redleg said:

They are my most hated AFL club south of Werribee.

I consider them an Interstate club!

[demoniac 1,333]

Just now, Redleg said:

And how is the salary of Gary paid in advance then recouped, if they don't get a Cat's player who has part of his salary paid by the Cats?

Front loading ie bringing forward future contracted payments to current year is not unusual. It is complicating return of Ablett to Geelong as he was front loaded $300,000 this year. Suns, quite reasonably, have said they want a Geelong contracted player  to be traded for Ablett so Cats can pay the first $300,000 of that player's 2018 contract. 

In the end  I suspect AFL will want Ablett to return to Cats so a deal will be done for a draft pick.