As I understand it, The Chazz is arguing two separate points and people are replying as if they are one.

If I'm not mistaken, Chazz is saying a) "Fahour's hit was definitely a worse act than Bugg's, by a serious margin", and separately b) "Bugg's punch was watched but a few hundred thousand people as it happened, including all the nervous mum's and impressionable little kids, so the impact of the incident as a whole is greater.

Anyway, as for my own opinion on it all, I think the 'b' part fades a bit when you consider that Fahour's whole job is to encourage people from 'non-mainstream communities' to feel confident that they can participate in Australian Football without being subject to racial abuse and all the other forms of aggressive bigotry that someone might reasonably be anxious about. How can he possibly do that job when every person he speaks to whether community leader, nervous mum, or a club official skeptical of the usefulness of 'diversity action plans', knows he is a gutless sniping thug?

Bugg's incident may have been seen by a few hundred thousand, but Fahour's act will be known about by all of the few hundred people he needs to deal with in order to reach out to hundreds of thousands of others.

His specific job is now untenable. And it is questionable if AFL HQ should be employing anyone who would include premeditated headhunting in their weekend afternoon entertainment.

I've been very vocal about my disgust towards the actions of Bugg, but gees you can't even compare this low life scumbag to Bugg.

He should not just be sacked from his role, but banned from playing footy.

That is assault, if he did that in the street, he'd have a criminal record. 

3 hours ago, The Chazz said:

This is where your confusion is. Not once have I said the hit was worse. I'm talking about the incident. But continue to make things up if you wish, it's just that that's when I lose interest in speaking to you.

lol now you are arguing against your own post.... 

I asked you to list the ways you thought the "hit" was worse and you gave 3 examples. The hit  WAS the incident, so you cant decouple the 2.

Its there for all to see so your backtracking is pointless. 

9 minutes ago, ding said:

lol now you are arguing against your own post.... 

I asked you to list the ways you thought the "hit" was worse and you gave 3 examples. The hit  WAS the incident, so you cant decouple the 2.

Its there for all to see so your backtracking is pointless. 

My apologies.  Not really room for misinterpretation, but I was meaning incident as opposed to the actual him, as correctly explained by Little Goffy above.  And yes, there is a different between the "hit" and the "incident", as I have explained many times previously.  Maybe "situation" would've been a better choice of words than "incident"?

give up chazz, you're just digging a hole. your point is too obtuse. look at the forest and forget the trees

46 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I've been very vocal about my disgust towards the actions of Bugg, but gees you can't even compare this low life scumbag to Bugg.

He should not just be sacked from his role, but banned from playing footy.

That is assault, if he did that in the street, he'd have a criminal record. 

This is the thing, Jaded.  What Bugg did, if he did in the street, is also assault.

 

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

give up chazz, you're just digging a hole. your point is too obtuse. look at the forest and forget the trees

Thanks, DC, will do.  I'm sure making tongue-in-cheek racist remarks is a much more entertaining anyway.

5 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

This is the thing, Jaded.  What Bugg did, if he did in the street, is also assault.

 

but it isn't on the street

95% of what happens on the field would technically constitute an assault off the field

some context please.....

The silence from the AFL is disgusting. The excuse that they are waiting for the Tribunal result is pathetic and irrelevant. There is enough evidence for them to take immediate action and remove him from his position. The AFL need to grow a pair.

9 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

but it isn't on the street

95% of what happens on the field would technically constitute an assault off the field

some context please.....

Wow.

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

I've been very vocal about my disgust towards the actions of Bugg, but gees you can't even compare this low life scumbag to Bugg.

He should not just be sacked from his role, but banned from playing footy.

That is assault, if he did that in the street, he'd have a criminal record. 

Should be eligible for a game in the Pentridge Punchers vs Barwon Bashers

46 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

The silence from the AFL is disgusting. The excuse that they are waiting for the Tribunal result is pathetic and irrelevant. There is enough evidence for them to take immediate action and remove him from his position. The AFL need to grow a pair.

He should be charged with assault, where are the police?

The AFL are embarrassing themselves by burying the head in the sand and just letting this play out.

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

He should be charged with assault, where are the police?

The AFL are embarrassing themselves by burying the head in the sand and just letting this play out.

That would involve charging someone "who has done so much* for a minority community" so wouldn't be seen as PC, by our PC PCs. 

   * actually done nothing to alter / correct  what many do perceive as a violent streak in those who follow "the religion of peace and love."

Edited July 5, 20178 yr by monoccular

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

He should be charged with assault, where are the police?

The AFL are embarrassing themselves by burying the head in the sand and just letting this play out.

Flat out preparing case against shinboner of the century ! 

42 minutes ago, puntkick said:

Flat out preparing case against shinboner of the century ! 

If SOC had of hit a bloke the way Fahoud did, I expect the guy would be dead.

4 hours ago, The Chazz said:

My apologies.  Not really room for misinterpretation, but I was meaning incident as opposed to the actual him, as correctly explained by Little Goffy above.  And yes, there is a different between the "hit" and the "incident", as I have explained many times previously.  Maybe "situation" would've been a better choice of words than "incident"?

Roger that, yes that would have made a difference, although i still wouldnt have said Buggs actions were in any way worse.

 

I have prepared a speech for Ali to read to the media bloodhounds....

Thank Yous all for coming to to hound me out of a job today,I appreciate it.

I was nearly going to resign a few days ago, but I wanted to sort out me compo first.

In light of the video of me involved in a brawl last week for the West Preston FC and the punishment received from the Northern League I will be retiring from football effective immediately.

Immediately after I square up one or two more guys next year.

My role as Diversity officer has been a complex and challenging one.Challenging mostly because I don't know what I am supposed to do ..The lunches have been awesome, and some of the night out were huge, all on the company credit card.

In the past when I had no work to do at work I would leak a private conversation and get somebody sacked which kept me pretty busy.Then i had to mingle with the suburban kids and get them interested in the safe and friendly game of AFL.

Now it seems my hypocrisy has been full exploited by someone with an iPhone.

I will learn from this experience and hopefully earn more money if the afl terminate my contract prematurely.

Thank yous all once again.

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

but it isn't on the street

95% of what happens on the field would technically constitute an assault off the field

some context please.....

Exactly, its a contact sport....hardly the same as walking down the street.

Just saw the footage after reading about it on a local footy forum. Filthy act and considering his position, the AFL should come down even harder on him. No excuses at all and he has a history, which would mean an even harsher penalty if he went in front of a proper tribunal.

Looking forward to seeing their response on this one.

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

but it isn't on the street

95% of what happens on the field would technically constitute an assault off the field

some context please.....

a fact lost on the many unfortunately DC

There's a degree of premeditation in what we see of Fahour.

Typical 'little-man syndrome"  plus he's just obviously a DH !!

ali will be ok.  bashir has just given a public character reference for him. will malcolm step up?

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

ali will be ok.  bashir has just given a public character reference for him. will malcolm step up?

I think that Yassmin nutter is penning him a reference before she buggers off  

Surprise surprise Houli jumping to the defence of his brother - in - forearms.

33 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I think that Yassmin nutter is penning him a reference before she buggers off  

She's applying for the head of the RSL.

(Diversity platform)

Good grief!

Fahour says how great a guy Houli is, then next week Houli is saying how great a guy Fahour is.  http://www.theage.com.au/afl/bachar-houli-defends-ali-fahour-ahead-of-afl-tribunal-hearing-20170705-gx58ol.html

Reminds me of the old adage 'birds of a feather stick together'!  I would have thought Houli would keep his head down given he is serving a 4 week suspension for knocking a player unconscious.

Neither of them are looking like great guys!