6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Easier yes.. but we , knowingly , for mine, do this wrong. 

We should be setting up better. Doesn't take 30 mins to adjust ffs.

 

We're still developing our onfield leadership - sometimes we'll be able to arrest it during a quarter (as in the Adelaide game), sometimes we need the break to reset and discuss amongst the players and coaches what needs to be adjusted (such as the North game). It also gives the coaches an opportunity to show the players what's going on so they can arrest it

21 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

 

I agree with your dad.  I also had a look at the rest of the season, and I think a solid case can be mounted for only winning three more games based on the way we've handled ourselves for the first half.  There are a stack of games we should win, but the kids just seem to switch off when they go in as favorites.  They need to get past that and not assume they are going to win against the sides we should be beating before we'll actually get up and beat them consistently.  Unless they get their [censored] together and play properly week in week out we're going to fall well short. 

Awesome - great news for our 3 game membership...

The Adelaide game took us durinv 2nd qtr after changes to click.

I can't believe the fd doesn't study the oppo and have a reasonable idea of their mo. 

We constantly get jumped. If nothing else that displays their pathways.

10-15 mins max to adjust...esp as you must know you will be adjusting. No surprise here surely.

Just saying. 

Most consistent trend of year to date...poor starts.

 

15 hours ago, beelzebub said:

This irks me....but only because it resonates.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Those two losses irk the hell out of me.

 

1 hour ago, A F said:

But yes, those losses irked me too,

Can I join the circle-irk if it's the Geelong and Richmond games that get my goat? We didn't rock up for Freo and Hawthorn - a part of football. But we got screwed against the other two after dominating most of the day, and if we don't get a chance for payback in the finals it will be those that will linger in my memory of regret.

14 hours ago, beelzebub said:

The Adelaide game took us durinv 2nd qtr after changes to click.

I can't believe the fd doesn't study the oppo and have a reasonable idea of their mo. 

We constantly get jumped. If nothing else that displays their pathways.

10-15 mins max to adjust...esp as you must know you will be adjusting. No surprise here surely.

Just saying. 

Most consistent trend of year to date...poor starts.

 

It's an issue, but considering the lack of ruck/key forward options in a lot of our games understandable.

By the way we were on from the first bounce against the Crows. The second quarter they got on top then we readjusted and dominated the rest of the game. It didn't take us until during the second quarter.

Still can't get head around that this blockbuster is on during work hours (no public holiday in QLD). 

5 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

Still can't get head around that this blockbuster is on during work hours (no public holiday in QLD). 

And WA, but I feel like I'll have the runs next Monday. 

37 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

And WA, but I feel like I'll have the runs next Monday. 

My manager hasn't picked up on it yet that I've blown the Victorian QB date for many years now.

 

On 06/06/2017 at 1:50 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

And WA, but I feel like I'll have the runs next Monday. 

Why don't you ring in crook from the G Ethan?

On 06/06/2017 at 1:50 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

And WA, but I feel like I'll have the runs next Monday. 

I’ll have the runs next Monday too…only I live in Melbourne so it’s not a day-off type thing. It’s just that my team is playing and I hate magpies.

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

Why don't you ring in crook from the G Ethan?

The thought has definitely crossed my mind. 

6 wins from the next 11 games should see us in. 

Gwan and hogan will only make us better. 

Clear September from your diaries... 

23 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

6 wins from the next 11 games should see us in. 

Gwan and hogan will only make us better. 

Clear September from your diaries... 

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge, we have a tough passage coming up. But we're in positive W/L at the half way mark so it's definitely there for us.

43 minutes ago, Pates said:

Still a lot of water to go under the bridge, we have a tough passage coming up. But we're in positive W/L at the half way mark so it's definitely there for us.

Next 11 has us playing 5 teams in the top 8... could be a lot worse... 

1 hour ago, bandicoot said:

Next 11 has us playing 5 teams in the top 8... could be a lot worse... 

For sure, but the last time we started looking ahead we capitulated. The path is laid out before us, but let's take it one step at a time. 

This years finals brought to you by Bradbury consulting !!

1 hour ago, bandicoot said:

Next 11 has us playing 5 teams in the top 8... could be a lot worse... 

4 of the current top 8.

Adelaide, GWS, WB, Port

Weve already beaten Adelaide on their home deck.  GWS will be tough but the Blues just beat them.  Doggies and Port are barely holding on to their spots in the 8.

 

6 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

4 of the current top 8.

Adelaide, GWS, WB, Port

Weve already beaten Adelaide on their home deck.  GWS will be tough but the Blues just beat them.  Doggies and Port are barely holding on to their spots in the 8.

 

Truthfully the competition is so even this year that I wouldn't be surprised if we lost to the Lions. Sydney are 14th, but they're definitely not that bad. North are 15th but have beaten us and Adelaide.

The spots where teams are mean nothing, for crying out loud Richmond are 4th. We need to bring it every week and take it week by week. I'm barely looking at the ladder aside from where we're placed.

Random post: but a feature of this odd, even year has been a lack of stand-out teams - though I haven't seen enough football this year to be certain that it's entirely down to poor quality. What I have watched though has been generally sub-par, (and why I've been on the Dees' bandwagon re. their best being as good or better than anyone's) with very few massive games between two super-strong opponents.

Are the AFL's expansion endeavours finally having an true impact? We all suspected that the entry of GC and GWS as the 17th and 18th teams would dilute the competition. They've now been in 5/6 years; the time it takes generally for an AFL player to reach their peak. Is that dilution coming to fruition in terms of the AFL's elite players spread per club? We bemoaned getting stuck behind Hawthorn etc. during this period of expansion and draft concessions, but are we in a huge position to capitalise over the next five years and beyond due to scoring an above fair-share of that elite talent coming through at this particular time?

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

4 of the current top 8.

Adelaide, GWS, WB, Port

Weve already beaten Adelaide on their home deck.  GWS will be tough but the Blues just beat them.  Doggies and Port are barely holding on to their spots in the 8.

 

Yes 4.. kept thinking Eagles were still in the 8.

tough task beating them in Perth. 

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

Random post: but a feature of this odd, even year has been a lack of stand-out teams - though I haven't seen enough football this year to be certain that it's entirely down to poor quality. What I have watched though has been generally sub-par, (and why I've been on the Dees' bandwagon re. their best being as good or better than anyone's) with very few massive games between two super-strong opponents.

Are the AFL's expansion endeavours finally having an true impact? We all suspected that the entry of GC and GWS as the 17th and 18th teams would dilute the competition. They've now been in 5/6 years; the time it takes generally for an AFL player to reach their peak. Is that dilution coming to fruition in terms of the AFL's elite players spread per club? We bemoaned getting stuck behind Hawthorn etc. during this period of expansion and draft concessions, but are we in a huge position to capitalise over the next five years and beyond due to scoring an above fair-share of that elite talent coming through at this particular time?

Good point. Not sure if this year is an an anomaly however on any given day the bottom side could beat the top. 

I still believe theat GWS have an amazing list when all players get back from injury. 

Brett Deledio

Rory Lobb

Jacob Hopper

Will Setterfield

Nick Haynes

Devon Smith

Stephen Coniglio

Ryan Griffen

Matt Buntine

Adam Kennedy

 

 

2 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Good point. Not sure if this year is an an anomaly however on any given day the bottom side could beat the top. 

I still believe theat GWS have an amazing list when all players get back from injury. 

Brett Deledio

Rory Lobb

Jacob Hopper

Will Setterfield

Nick Haynes

Devon Smith

Stephen Coniglio

Ryan Griffen

Matt Buntine

Adam Kennedy

 

 

They do have the list: clear beneficiaries of the expansion concessions, and have managed it with enough nous and luck to keep that advantage rolling for the foreseeable future. This year is clearly a stand-out though in terms of spread and lack of outstanding teams  - the question I can't answer is whether it is due to an all-round poorer quality of football? If so, my thesis is that that dilution will benefit the handful of teams that were on the bottom at the time - five years later - rather than those on the top as expected. And that those teams now will continue to drive the advantage home for a while yet. They may lose Kelly, and Sheil, or whoever, but they will be duly rewarded by desperate opposition teams. Perhaps we too, when our talent hits that five-year mark, when the elite is spread more thinly per team rather than the bottom six-to-eight as expected. 

On 04/06/2017 at 9:12 PM, ProDee said:

We've won one more quarter than Richmond having played one less game.

How many teams would be fourth on the quarters won ladder without their two most important players ?  To check the significance of this stat go back through previous years of the QW ladder and you'll know what I mean.

I really don't think we're getting enough credit for our year to date given we've been playing with no ruckman or key forward.

You can't tell me we wouldn't at least 7 wins (and top 4) if we hadn't been cruelled by injuries to our two most important players.

QB is vital for our finals chances.

And I would suggest the rubbing out of Hogan and Lewis cost us at least two games. Lewis is a real General down back in close games, and it would have been no different in the three he missed which were mostly close games.

Almost a lock now. 5 more wins from 10 games will see us in.

Have a feeling we might be more than bit players come finals time.