6 hours ago, beelzebub said:

point taken    . Plan C it is.....make it so Dees

( all clubs were cleared by AFL to trade next seasons 1st Rounders...apparently.. Seems like on the fly revisionism to me...but hey that's Gil ) 

next year's first and a third would be about right..

Because of the Lever deal, we have nothing to trade with GC, unless the Hogan deal goes through. JM has said it and Freo are using it.

Also because JH probably will only go home, we are stymied in dealing with another club.

I wonder if we could get GC to approach him, with the help of the AFL to bump up any offer and make him one of the highest paid players in the game, on a long contract.

This could suit GC and the AFL. To replace their captains leaving, with the potential best young key forward in the game. The publicity alone would be great for them in rebuilding the club. 

I wonder if Jessie could be talked into the sun and sea being a surfer.

If this could be done, we would be able to do the May, KK deal and possibly get a top 3 pick from GC, with them getting something back.

Then we are looking at Rankine or Rozee.

How good a deal could that be?

I wonder who the other clubs that are nibbling are?

If JH and us could shaft Freo, by getting a better deal, it would be magnificent.

On the other hand, if the deal goes through with Fre and we get May and KK, I don't see it being what many of us hoped for.

I can't see realistically how we can do the May deal alone and that is a pity.

Maybe the dees need to trade out a hunt, stretch or anb along with next years first to get the deal done

Word of May touring the Dogs facilities. This could actually force Freo's hand as they will know our incentive to trade Hogan this year would disappear if May was off the table.

57 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Maybe the dees need to trade out a hunt, stretch or anb along with next years first to get the deal done

No way am I happy with trading out ANB. The guy is a bloody good player. He kicked 27 goals this year which is a great return for a guy that pushes up the field a lot. 

Edited October 12, 20187 yr by Dr.D

9 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

No way am I happy with trading out ANB. The guy is a bloody good player. He kicked 27 goals this year which is a great return for a guy that pushes up the field a lot. 

His pressure work for our team is enormous work horse of our team and culture.

13 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

Word of May touring the Dogs facilities. This could actually force Freo's hand as they will know our incentive to trade Hogan this year would disappear if May was off the table.

That would have that weasel and his cohorts shivering down @Freo.

How do we get this done? We have his non public nomination on our side to get this done. 2019 first round pick + Sam Frost.

Edited October 12, 20187 yr by johndemonic

Watch Collingwood swoop

Darn 

I think we can put this thread on ice.

simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs?

i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite

so which is it?

Edited October 12, 20187 yr by daisycutter

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs?

i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite

so which is it?

We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs?

i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite

so which is it?

We can, but why would GCS want that? They would be better waiting a year then getting the compo pick. We'd be better waiting as well because we won't have to give up anything next year. I always thought we might be getting to him as an early move for next season.

Of course if he comes out and says he's desperate to get to the Dees that changes everything and the asking price might lower. 

Just now, beelzebub said:

We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder

so why wouldn't that go a fair way to making an offer to gcs, with some extra sweeteners?

we must have the money if we were trying to get gaff in

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder

Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it.

I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now.

Such a bloody shame! 

Just now, daisycutter said:

so why wouldn't that go a fair way to making an offer to gcs, with some extra sweeteners?

we must have the money if we were trying to get gaff in

We can afford May...not issue

It's appeasing GC . We need the picks..or something. Right this second we don't have enough...but hey...watch this space 

Just now, Jaded said:

Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it.

I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now.

Such a bloody shame! 

not saying just that pick. would need to add a player or our 2018 2nd rounder

i can't believe there isn't some wriggle room. reckon josh will have a very busy weekend

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it.

I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now.

Such a bloody shame! 

I only made reference to the question....our pick 15/ 16/17/18  won't do the trade alone ... I sense a sacrificial lamb  if to happen.

if it were dorks they'd find a way

Hopefully Freo pulling out of the Hogan trade means we don't get May.

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

if it were dorks they'd find a way

Let us be dorks !!

Just now, KingDingAling said:

Hopefully Freo pulling out of the Hogan trade means we don't get May.

Why would you not want May ?

I thought we can't use our 2019 first round pick due to the rules of not trading more than 2 in a 4 year period (unless getting AFL approval to do so).

GC will want a better than mid first rounder....( Bulldogs pick 7 a possibility) or a late first rounder and a player. No ...Hunt won't fly

We really don't have a player to offer

Hard to see us getting back into this deal even assuming we're allowed to do something with our first rounder for 2019

Edited October 12, 20187 yr by Diamond_Jim