Mt. Dee-Maaan 608 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 6 hours ago, beelzebub said: point taken . Plan C it is.....make it so Dees ( all clubs were cleared by AFL to trade next seasons 1st Rounders...apparently.. Seems like on the fly revisionism to me...but hey that's Gil ) next year's first and a third would be about right.. Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 Because of the Lever deal, we have nothing to trade with GC, unless the Hogan deal goes through. JM has said it and Freo are using it. Also because JH probably will only go home, we are stymied in dealing with another club. I wonder if we could get GC to approach him, with the help of the AFL to bump up any offer and make him one of the highest paid players in the game, on a long contract. This could suit GC and the AFL. To replace their captains leaving, with the potential best young key forward in the game. The publicity alone would be great for them in rebuilding the club. I wonder if Jessie could be talked into the sun and sea being a surfer. If this could be done, we would be able to do the May, KK deal and possibly get a top 3 pick from GC, with them getting something back. Then we are looking at Rankine or Rozee. How good a deal could that be? I wonder who the other clubs that are nibbling are? If JH and us could shaft Freo, by getting a better deal, it would be magnificent. On the other hand, if the deal goes through with Fre and we get May and KK, I don't see it being what many of us hoped for. I can't see realistically how we can do the May deal alone and that is a pity. 2 Quote
Garbo 1,567 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Maybe the dees need to trade out a hunt, stretch or anb along with next years first to get the deal done 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Word of May touring the Dogs facilities. This could actually force Freo's hand as they will know our incentive to trade Hogan this year would disappear if May was off the table. 1 Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Garbo said: Maybe the dees need to trade out a hunt, stretch or anb along with next years first to get the deal done No way am I happy with trading out ANB. The guy is a bloody good player. He kicked 27 goals this year which is a great return for a guy that pushes up the field a lot. Edited October 12, 2018 by Dr.D 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,822 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dr.D said: No way am I happy with trading out ANB. The guy is a bloody good player. He kicked 27 goals this year which is a great return for a guy that pushes up the field a lot. His pressure work for our team is enormous work horse of our team and culture. Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,822 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said: Word of May touring the Dogs facilities. This could actually force Freo's hand as they will know our incentive to trade Hogan this year would disappear if May was off the table. That would have that weasel and his cohorts shivering down @Freo. Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) How do we get this done? We have his non public nomination on our side to get this done. 2019 first round pick + Sam Frost. Edited October 12, 2018 by johndemonic 1 Quote
Demonland 74,430 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 I think we can put this thread on ice. 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs? i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite so which is it? Edited October 12, 2018 by daisycutter 3 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, daisycutter said: simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs? i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite so which is it? We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, daisycutter said: simple question. why can't we use our 2019 1st round pick as part of a deal with gcs? i've seen posts here which say we are not restricted by the afl and some that say the opposite so which is it? We can, but why would GCS want that? They would be better waiting a year then getting the compo pick. We'd be better waiting as well because we won't have to give up anything next year. I always thought we might be getting to him as an early move for next season. Of course if he comes out and says he's desperate to get to the Dees that changes everything and the asking price might lower. 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, beelzebub said: We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder so why wouldn't that go a fair way to making an offer to gcs, with some extra sweeteners? we must have the money if we were trying to get gaff in Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, beelzebub said: We most certainly CAN use our 19 1st rounder Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it. I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now. Such a bloody shame! Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, daisycutter said: so why wouldn't that go a fair way to making an offer to gcs, with some extra sweeteners? we must have the money if we were trying to get gaff in We can afford May...not issue It's appeasing GC . We need the picks..or something. Right this second we don't have enough...but hey...watch this space Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, Jaded said: Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it. I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now. Such a bloody shame! not saying just that pick. would need to add a player or our 2018 2nd rounder i can't believe there isn't some wriggle room. reckon josh will have a very busy weekend 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Jaded said: Yeah but lets be honest, Gold Coast wouldn't be counting on this pick being inside the top 10, and hence won't accept it. I just can't see how this will end up happening for us now. Such a bloody shame! I only made reference to the question....our pick 15/ 16/17/18 won't do the trade alone ... I sense a sacrificial lamb if to happen. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 if it were dorks they'd find a way 2 Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Hopefully Freo pulling out of the Hogan trade means we don't get May. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, daisycutter said: if it were dorks they'd find a way Let us be dorks !! Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, KingDingAling said: Hopefully Freo pulling out of the Hogan trade means we don't get May. Why would you not want May ? Quote
Demonland 74,430 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 I thought we can't use our 2019 first round pick due to the rules of not trading more than 2 in a 4 year period (unless getting AFL approval to do so). Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,772 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) GC will want a better than mid first rounder....( Bulldogs pick 7 a possibility) or a late first rounder and a player. No ...Hunt won't fly We really don't have a player to offer Hard to see us getting back into this deal even assuming we're allowed to do something with our first rounder for 2019 Edited October 12, 2018 by Diamond_Jim Quote
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