Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[DeeSpencer 25,444]

Just now, Demons11 said:

Danger was restricted free agent, completely different. 

Maybe, but not really. Adelaide could've matched the contract so really they had just as much leverage then as they do now.

 

[BigMacjnr 283]

@@Judd's Granny Is your sense that the Dees are in poll position to get Lever?

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,561]

 

14 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons want Lever & picks 35, 53

Offering Crows picks 10, 45

No other players involved

 

Crows want 2017 + 2018 1st round picks

Demons won't do deal

If correct, its good to see mfc protecting our 2018 picks (said to be a very good draft vs 2017).

 

 

[Redleg 40,818]

6 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Rubbish. Scott Thompson came good before he went to Adelaide. We developed him and nursed him through injury. Everyone knew he was going to be a star especially Daniher.

Scott played every game in 04 until he got injured,  but played only 27 of the previous 66 and my recollection is that he was no fan of Daniher. He played several reserve games, but yes did have some injury concerns.  I recall at the time that many were sceptical of the illness reason used for him to go home. My apologies to Scott if it was true, but many at the time thought it was untrue. You may have some more info on that. I think the info at the time was that his mother was unwell, but again you may have more info on that.

I remember talk at the time that he wanted to be away from Daniher.

 

[DeeSpencer 25,444]

Think we might have to give up more than pick 10 but I don't want it to be much more.

I'd try to keep next years first off the table, but at the same time I wouldn't want to give up 2nd round picks either so it's a tricky one. We have to give Jason Taylor some ammunition in the draft.

I'd probably be willing to add 2018's first round pick for Adelaide's pick this year or next year but that would be a gamble. A couple of second round pick shuffles might be the safer bet. Or maybe we give the Saints something small to move pick 10 to 7 or 8 and then that satisfies the Crows. 

The big question might be what other business do we have in trade week and if the answer is nothing major then we can bit very patient. The last few years Mahoney has always stressed the importance of locking in deals early to allow some more movement with other players but I'm hoping we don't trade anyone out and I don't think we'll be trading anyone major in if we get Lever.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,477]

30 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons want Lever & picks 35, 53

Offering Crows picks 10, 45

No other players involved

 

Crows want 2017 + 2018 1st round picks

Demons won't do deal

 

If that could be negotiated down to 10 & 45 for Lever, we'd be laughing.

 

[Mickey 4,647]

10 and 45 for Lever, 35 and 53 means we get lever for less than our first round pick. Would be astounded if that happens. 10 and our 2nd rounder for Lever and 35 or 53 is closer to the mark, I would have thought

[Judd's Granny 24]

40 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

@@Judd's Granny Is your sense that the Dees are in poll position to get Lever?

 

Yes, I think we've got him

[mattjm 151]

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

You what?

a lil puff and squat

[Judd's Granny 24]

28 minutes ago, Mickey said:

10 and 45 for Lever, 35 and 53 means we get lever for less than our first round pick. Would be astounded if that happens. 10 and our 2nd rounder for Lever and 35 or 53 is closer to the mark, I would have thought

Demons working on multi deals. Won't consider 1st + 2nd rounders for Lever.

 

[beelzebub 23,313]

3 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Has anyone heard any beauties coming from Crows fans in what they should get in return if Lever does choose to come to us?

My favourite is " they should give us Oliver or Petracca otherwise Melbourne can go and get f****d!"

It's the water 

[Lucifers Hero 39,561]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/adelaide-tells-melbourne-it-wants-two-firstround-draft-picks-for-talented-defender-jake-lever/news-story/dbe7542425f46d6e0852f5b44c034fce

From the article: 

"ADELAIDE ... want two first-round draft picks ...if he seeks a trade back to Victoria".

"Some observers, however — and it is safe to say Melbourne will agree — argue that Lever isn’t worth two first-round choices".

"Another option ...would be to give up two first round picks and receive a decent pick back, or to give up a first rounder and then swap picks".

That is pretty much as @Judd's Granny describes. 

The article also says that Coll has dropped out of the race.

If a trade doesn't involve a third club there is a fair chance it will be done early in the trade period which starts on October 9 (if he decides to come to us).

I'm starting to get my hopes up!

 

[Mickey 4,647]

11 minutes ago, Judd's Granny said:

Demons working on multi deals. Won't consider 1st + 2nd rounders for Lever.

 

Thanks for the info. Any clue as to the other deals? 

[Nasher 33,607]

Willing to bet that dear old Granny turns out to be completely full of it. Seen this movie a dozen times before. Makes up enough detail on the rumours to just sound plausible, when the inevitable gets done but not exactly as described, it's ooh, we/they gave in and agreed in the end to get the deal done. It's directly out of the GNF playbook.

Time will tell though.

[beelzebub 23,313]

Gosh

Getting chilly in here

[Adam The God 30,122]

15 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Willing to bet that dear old Granny turns out to be completely full of it. Seen this movie a dozen times before. Time will tell though.

Haha, yep. I'm getting Riddler (without the riddles) vibes! 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,477]

Wonder if they literally mean two first round picks or if the mean pick 10, plus another first round pick.  Could we, for example, trade down our pick 10 to pick 17 before we forward it to Adelaide with next years..??

[Nasher 33,607]

1 minute ago, A F said:

Haha, yep. I'm getting Riddler (without the riddles) vibes! 

Suspect this may be the same flog who told everyone we were getting Josh Kennedy.

[Roger Mellie 3,971]

11 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Willing to bet that dear old Granny turns out to be completely full of it. Seen this movie a dozen times before. Time will tell though.

Quite possibly, but I'm happy to run with it until he/she gets blown out of the water and in the absence of Nudge / CB.

Not much else on offer eh 

[Nasher 33,607]

1 minute ago, Roger Mellie said:

Quite possibly, but I'm happy to run with it until he/she gets blown out of the water and in the absence of Nudge / CB.

Not much else on offer eh 

I loved Nudge because his lies were outrageous and clearly ridiculous. I'm bored to death with the BS artists. Maybe I've been here too long.

[faultydet 7,594]

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Gosh

Getting chilly in here

Exactly what I was thinking, only I couldnt remember the name....

 

boy oh boy

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

13 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/adelaide-tells-melbourne-it-wants-two-firstround-draft-picks-for-talented-defender-jake-lever/news-story/dbe7542425f46d6e0852f5b44c034fce

From the article: 

"ADELAIDE ... want two first-round draft picks ...if he seeks a trade back to Victoria".

"Some observers, however — and it is safe to say Melbourne will agree — argue that Lever isn’t worth two first-round choices".

"Another option ...would be to give up two first round picks and receive a decent pick back, or to give up a first rounder and then swap picks".

That is pretty much as @Judd's Granny describes. 

The article also says that Coll has dropped out of the race.

If a trade doesn't involve a third club there is a fair chance it will be done early in the trade period which starts on October 9 (if he decides to come to us).

I'm starting to get my hopes up!

 

Now if the pies have dropped out ... which other clubs are we competing with ? 

 

[Adam The God 30,122]

14 minutes ago, Delusional demon 82 said:

Now if the pies have dropped out ... which other clubs are we competing with ? 

 

Sounds like the only competition is Adelaide. I have no inside info, but my gut is telling me we'll eventually pay two first rounders, we're just playing hardball at the moment.

[deelete my account 1,194]

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

If Collingwood paid this for Treloar, then he is worth it 

Lever won't have that much effect if our mids are being towelled up because we haven't landed another mid to relieve the pressure from a 22 game season on our younger mids and near-retirees. Keep another first and use it to bring a non-vfl player into the middle or at least a decent first round pick that can bring some youth and excitement into our club the following year.

Edited September 14, 2017 by Deeprived Childhood

[Roger Mellie 3,971]

13 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I loved Nudge because his lies were outrageous and clearly ridiculous. I'm bored to death with the BS artists. Maybe I've been here too long.

Nudge/Chilli Boy was a ripper and clearly went for quantity over quality. I was always saddened when he would disappear after about 5 minutes of posting gems when someone annoying would call him out and he'd vanish in a huff.