On 18/03/2017 at 02:15, Unleash Hell said:

Haha you clearly dont follow that closely DA

While philly dont have the wins on the board in 16/17. Philly has a very exciting young list with 2 potential ROTYs

Saric is a beast,  Embid is a freak and they will land another Top 5 pick this season in a guard heavy draft.

They remind me of the dees with the talent we have pushing through our team this season.

  On 18/03/2017 at 01:50, Nascent said:

He was available for 0/3 games due to a quad injury as mentioned in a recent Dave mission article. Most people seem to have missed that one although injury news from the club has been poor recently.

He is playing with Casey this week so hopefully he is fit for round one as St kilda have some dangerous small forwards.

P.S. for all I know he may also be out of favour with the coaches as well.

Link to Misson comments please.  He's not mentioned in the latest Misson interview re this weekend's Casey practice match.

He did play in last week's Casey intraclub when MFC played in Perth so he was availablr then.

  On 18/03/2017 at 03:29, Adzman said:

Saric is a beast,  Embid is a freak and they will land another Top 5 pick this season in a guard heavy draft.

They remind me of the dees with the talent we have pushing through our team this season.

Couldn't they end up with two top 5 picks if Lakers don't get top 3 lottery protected, so they can lands say pick 1-3 (their own) and 4-5 (the lowest the Lakers pick can fall?).

 Lonzo Ball's dad would be so [censored] if he got picked by an eastern team; he wants his boy in purple and gold.

Could it be that older players with more than 100 games are being deliberately rested ?

Would explain Watts and Jetta who do not need game experience.Did Vincent get rested?

  On 18/03/2017 at 02:58, armstrong35 said:

I think our backline under pressure is better with Nev in it.
A few years ago I wouldn't have said that.
I believe he is best 22. He is more consistent than Garlett and most would have him in their best 22.

Those two play in completely different positions and have different roles, so your comparison lacks logic. Or did you mean to say Garland rather than Garlett?

It's not as simple as best 22, more so whose fit and in form, who balances with opposition selection and plays according to Goodwin's game plan, etc. ATM Jetta doesn't appear to tick all these boxes

  On 18/03/2017 at 05:21, Moonshadow said:

Those two play in completely different positions and have different roles, so your comparison lacks logic. Or did you mean to say Garland rather than Garlett?

It's not as simple as best 22, more so whose fit and in form, who balances with opposition selection and plays according to Goodwin's game plan, etc. ATM Jetta doesn't appear to tick all these boxes

I happened to get to a training session just before the Dec/Jan break and was pleasantly surprised by the amount of attention and empahsis  reinforced by the coaching staff upon the playing group with regard to prolonged mental hardness and focus, particularly under sustained duress. The conditions were very trying and the sheer intensity impressed upon the playing group by the coaching staff was deliberate and without compromise. One player who particularly was singled out after the session for praise was Clayton Oliver.  I wont go into the reasons as to why other than to suggest they were extremely positive and resonated well with Goodwin, Mooney & McCartney. (care to comment Saty??) Furthermore, during the session he completely toweled Nev and ln a number of competitive sessions. Jetta was completely exposed and for the remainder of the session was damaged (& acting damaged) and needing reassurance from all & sundry.  Nev was exposed and I had not expected to ever see this.

 

Perhaps the back 6 is not quite as settled for reason?

Worth about two dollar 50

 

 

  On 18/03/2017 at 04:44, DemonAndrew said:

Couldn't they end up with two top 5 picks if Lakers don't get top 3 lottery protected, so they can lands say pick 1-3 (their own) and 4-5 (the lowest the Lakers pick can fall?).

 Lonzo Ball's dad would be so [censored] if he got picked by an eastern team; he wants his boy in purple and gold.

That's correct. It's only top 3 protected. Lakers have lost 9 of their last 10 and a clearly tanking to maximise their chance of a top 3 pick. The lottery balls will ultimately decide their fate. If Philli get another lottery pick this year they will be scary for a decade.

Lonzo Ball is the NCAA equivalent of Damir Dokic! Guy is a nutcase. His 3 kids can't all end up in LA, so he best shut his mouth. Also, Fultz is the better guard in this year's draft IMO.

 

Given this is a Jetta thread, I still love him.

 

 

 

  On 18/03/2017 at 03:47, Fifty-5 said:

Link to Misson comments please.  He's not mentioned in the latest Misson interview re this weekend's Casey practice match.

He did play in last week's Casey intraclub when MFC played in Perth so he was availablr then.

Apologies, it's actually Josh Mahoney quoted in this article.

 http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-03-08/vandenberg-to-miss-round-one.mobileapp

"Meanwhile, Neville Jetta is now available for selection after overcoming a quad issue, while Kent (back) will be ready to play either next week or the week after in a VFL practice match. 

Jetta was not picked for Thursday night's game against West Coast, but will take the field in a Casey Demons intraclub game at Casey Fields on Friday night. 

There will up to 12 senior-listed Demons players running around in that game as the club looks to prepare underdone players for the season ahead. 

"'Jetts' has been in full training now for a couple of weeks and it's got to the stage where he's available to play," Mahoney said. 

"At this stage, we've got a lot of players who are up and going and have had full pre-seasons but he'll play in an intraclub this week and look to play the following week as well."

Ok so here is a slightly outside the box idea that probably wont happen. 

Assuming the FD has decided that Jetta is not a part of their defencive plan A this year (which is not confirmed untill he actually isnt picked in round 1 but the signs arnt good for him). If they decide that one of Kent or Garlett is too underdone to come in, could Jetts play as a defencive forward? Even if it is just a once off. We know that the saints have repeatedly slaughted us on the rebound, his combative pressure in the front half could make a big difference.

  On 19/03/2017 at 11:59, Nascent said:

Apologies, it's actually Josh Mahoney quoted in this article.

 http://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-03-08/vandenberg-to-miss-round-one.mobileapp

"Meanwhile, Neville Jetta is now available for selection after overcoming a quad issue, while Kent (back) will be ready to play either next week or the week after in a VFL practice match. 

Jetta was not picked for Thursday night's game against West Coast, but will take the field in a Casey Demons intraclub game at Casey Fields on Friday night. 

There will up to 12 senior-listed Demons players running around in that game as the club looks to prepare underdone players for the season ahead. 

"'Jetts' has been in full training now for a couple of weeks and it's got to the stage where he's available to play," Mahoney said. 

"At this stage, we've got a lot of players who are up and going and have had full pre-seasons but he'll play in an intraclub this week and look to play the following week as well."

They put Tyson straight in for the WC game but not Jetta.  I think there's a message there.

  On 18/03/2017 at 05:21, Moonshadow said:

Those two play in completely different positions and have different roles, so your comparison lacks logic. Or did you mean to say Garland rather than Garlett?

It's not as simple as best 22, more so whose fit and in form, who balances with opposition selection and plays according to Goodwin's game plan, etc. ATM Jetta doesn't appear to tick all these boxes

how do you think Jetta went?

  On 26/03/2017 at 02:07, armstrong35 said:

how do you think Jetta went?

He did well.

Your point?

  On 26/03/2017 at 02:18, Moonshadow said:

He did well.

Your point?

You said he does not tick all the box's and seemed to imply he wouldn't fit the game plan but he was one of our best defenders yesterday and ticked plenty of box's.

That's my point.

  On 18/03/2017 at 01:06, Nasher said:

What's he worth to the team - not much when he's not in it.

Was available for 3/3 JLT games and played 0/3 when we were apparently having dress rehearsals. Anyone who has picked him for round 1 fancies themselves as a better coach than Goodwin.

Oh oh..

 

Jetta's spot in our back six is unquestionable in my eyes.

You need one small lock down and for what he lacks in offensive gut running, he makes up in his agility in close to get around opponents and more often than not makes the correct decisions under pressure. He also makes really effective spoils for such a small defender.

I love his hard edge too.

I certainly feel much more confident in our defensive six when he is part of it. That includes Hibberd.

They help out the McAllovertheplace brothers to no end.

Played a great game 20 possies at 85%

i thought Goodwin had decided he was cooked. Thankfully that is not the case...

Brilliant player. Our best small defender.

WHy was anyone questioning him?  He would be one of the first half dozen picked each week, he is criminally underrated by the wider AFL  He is by far our best l lockdown defender, and one of the best in the league.

  On 26/03/2017 at 03:10, armstrong35 said:

Most ridiculous you reckon?


I compared them to consistency so unsure where I went wrong regardless of what position? 
Garlett tends to play a great game every 5 or so weeks.. Which is an area he needed to work on.
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You cannot compare them purely based on position. Small forward is an opportunistic position, where you are often made to work in close, crowded quarters and usually outnumbered due to opposition dropping an extra back.  Conversely a small back may have the benefit of the extra defender there to help and also the ball coming in hurriedly to the forwards which helps the backs ( small forwards also have the problems of service into the forward line)

I love Jetta's calmness - rarely makes a bad decision and I would have him in my team but comparing him to Gartlett is nonsensical. 

  On 26/03/2017 at 02:36, stevethemanjordan said:

Oh oh..

 

Goodwin clearly fancies himself as a better coach than Goodwin.

Happy to be wrong, just called it as I saw it.