THE BOMBERS' DOPING SAGA - THE FAT LADY SINGS

[daisycutter 29,892]

14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Essendon supplements architect Stephen Dank to appeal in public against 10 charges

Stephen Dank, the architect of the Essendon supplements program, is set to appear before the AFL appeals board on Monday but is angry no oral submissions will be allowed.

Dank is fighting 10 charges, including the alleged administration of thymosin beta-4. He is also seeking to overturn the lifelong ban slapped on him by the AFL anti-doping tribunal in June, 2015.

(source TheAged..  google Dank set to front public appeals hearing over supplements charges )

No Oral submissions , but in public. Have no idea where this might go  but can't see  ol' Danksie getting off from anything

can't even see him turning up, bub

[beelzebub 23,390]

28 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

can't even see him turning up, bub

it's HIS appeal !!

[daisycutter 29,892]

55 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

it's HIS appeal !!

so was HIS court action against ch9. didn't turn up to three consecutive hearings. judge dismissed case.

[Willmoy1947 4,198]

Who else wants their names in lights for being a selector in A A selection panel besides K Bartlett in 2012, I wonder....looks better in Newspaper Print of course!!

[Chris 2,892]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

it's HIS appeal !!

He didn't turn up to his case the other week as well. I think it was a defamation case. He lost without a hearing and had to pay all legal fees. 

[beelzebub 23,390]

47 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so was HIS court action against ch9. didn't turn up to three consecutive hearings. judge dismissed case.

Point taken lol

[rjay 25,302]

34 minutes ago, Chris said:

He didn't turn up to his case the other week as well. I think it was a defamation case. He lost without a hearing and had to pay all legal fees. 

Good luck collecting...

[daisycutter 29,892]

33 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Point taken lol

our stephen does a lot of blustering, threatening and promising, but when things get to the pointy end he just disappears like a puff of smoke. then pops up at his next footy pie night to pick up a nice purse and offer a bit of salacious condemnation of all and sundry. surprisingly he is very popular at such high brow events. much like the table-top strippers who complete the show

Edited November 17, 2016 by daisycutter

[Biffen 12,949]

53 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

our stephen does a lot of blustering, threatening and promising, but when things get to the pointy end he just disappears like a puff of smoke. then pops up at his next footy pie night to pick up a nice purse and offer a bit of salacious condemnation of all and sundry. surprisingly he is very popular at such high brow events. much like the table-top strippers who complete the show

So where do I get tickets ?

Sounds like a sophisticated evening.

[daisycutter 29,892]

1 minute ago, Biffen said:

So where do I get tickets ?

Sounds like a sophisticated evening.

you should try and get him down at the gat, biffo. he could probably do a whole season there and you could clean up too

[Lucifers Hero 40,515]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/stephen-dank-to-be-questioned-in-open-court-over-doping-allegations/news-story/39bcb88f6f7aaff12c28d879bf96fd59

The appeal for his life time ban will be held in open court and is effectively a 'de novo' hearing.  Interestingly:

"The first witness in Dank’s appeal is expected to be Dr James Cox, a biochemist from the University of Utah who provided scientific analysis for the World Anti-Doping Agency in its case against the Essendon players argued last November before the Court of Arbitration for Sport"

Not sure why that is relevant as Dank's life time ban was imposed before the CAS hearing took place.  It looks more like a Dank ploy to discredit CAS! 

And the AFL thought the saga was over!  It seems the 'Fat Lady' has an encore! 

Edited November 17, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[Chris 2,892]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/stephen-dank-to-be-questioned-in-open-court-over-doping-allegations/news-story/39bcb88f6f7aaff12c28d879bf96fd59

The appeal for his life time ban will be held in open court and is effectively a 'de novo' hearing.  Interestingly:

"The first witness in Dank’s appeal is expected to be Dr James Cox, a biochemist from the University of Utah who provided scientific analysis for the World Anti-Doping Agency in its case against the Essendon players argued last November before the Court of Arbitration for Sport"

Not sure why that is relevant as Dank's life time ban was imposed before the CAS hearing took place.  It looks more like a Dank ploy to discredit CAS! 

And the AFL thought the saga was over!  It seems the 'Fat Lady' has an encore! 

I may be wrong but I don't think Dank was found guilty with anything to do with TB4 so I am not sure it would be in any way admissible to talk about it as it is irrelevant to this case. He may be using this expert to talk about the substances he was found guilty of trafficking etc.  

[beelzebub 23,390]

Who the f... ever knows what Stanks is ever really on about. 

Denis should be his advocate !! 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

I think we can safely assume that this expert from over the oceans will not appear. Can you imagine the conversation?

"I need you to testify on my behalf"

"Okayyyyyy .... who will pay my expenses?"

"The other side."

"Why should they pay for your witness?"

"Oh, they will pay ... (manic snicker) ... believe me ... everyone will pay ..."

"I heard you're out of money"

"I will be rolling in cash soon. After I reveal the truth"

"You haven't told the truth to date?"

"Of course I have ... at some sportsmen's nights ... but soon I will reveal the truth in the appropriate forum ... and I will be vindicated! A ha ha ha ! A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

click ... buzz ...

[daisycutter 29,892]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Who the f... ever knows what Stanks is ever really on about. 

Denis should be his advocate !! 

might have troubles finding the dosh to pay one. his last lawyer on the ch9 case walked on him and guess what.......he represented himself!

[Sir Why You Little 37,307]

Dave Colbert went really hard on SEN This morning concerning Jab and his 2012 AA Status being allowed. 

Great Radio

We are not alone!!

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/stephen-dank-to-be-questioned-in-open-court-over-doping-allegations/news-story/39bcb88f6f7aaff12c28d879bf96fd59

The appeal for his life time ban will be held in open court and is effectively a 'de novo' hearing.  Interestingly:

"The first witness in Dank’s appeal is expected to be Dr James Cox, a biochemist from the University of Utah who provided scientific analysis for the World Anti-Doping Agency in its case against the Essendon players argued last November before the Court of Arbitration for Sport"

Not sure why that is relevant as Dank's life time ban was imposed before the CAS hearing took place.  It looks more like a Dank ploy to discredit CAS! 

And the AFL thought the saga was over!  It seems the 'Fat Lady' has an encore! 

I find this all very strange, i mean the only way i could see that he could come out on top is if he produces new evidence like records of the program that would not only clear him but the 34 players as well, and then the players would quite rightly be asking why they had to wait until they'd missed a year of footy and so on before he bought this out. 

otherwise i can't see him overturning it and he's just wasting money and time.

[binman 44,529]

I had to laugh that he is angry he can't give an oral submission. With his meticulous record keeping he shouldn't need to.

I caught the last couple of minutes or so of the big ticket on the weekend, which was a recording of a live panel about drugs in sport (not sure of the exact topic but it seemed a WADA bashing exercise) hosted by Tracey Holmes. Dank was on the panel. I'm not an ABC basher but it infuriates me my tax dollars are going to a program that legitimizes this lunatic.  

[Chris 2,892]

33 minutes ago, Abe said:

I find this all very strange, i mean the only way i could see that he could come out on top is if he produces new evidence like records of the program that would not only clear him but the 34 players as well, and then the players would quite rightly be asking why they had to wait until they'd missed a year of footy and so on before he bought this out. 

otherwise i can't see him overturning it and he's just wasting money and time.

It actually isn't about the EFC boys, he conveniently wasn't found guilty by the AFL for any charge to do with them at all. What he was found guilty of, and what he is appealing, is a bunch of things form other places. 

[Chris 2,892]

10 minutes ago, binman said:

I had to laugh that he is angry he can't give an oral submission. With his meticulous record keeping he shouldn't need to.

I caught the last couple of minutes or so of the big ticket on the weekend, which was a recording of a live panel about drugs in sport (not sure of the exact topic but it seemed a WADA bashing exercise) hosted by Tracey Holmes. Dank was on the panel. I'm not an ABC basher but it infuriates me my tax dollars are going to a program that legitimizes this lunatic.  

Tracey Holmes, hahahahahahahahahhaha

[Lucifers Hero 40,515]

7 hours ago, Chris said:

I may be wrong but I don't think Dank was found guilty with anything to do with TB4 so I am not sure it would be in any way admissible to talk about it as it is irrelevant to this case. He may be using this expert to talk about the substances he was found guilty of trafficking etc.  

Correct.  Which is why the only plausible reason Dank has to call Cox as a witness is to discredit CAS.  Whether he gets past first base is another matter.  Yes, I also said it and Cox are irrelevant to Dank's ban.

[daisycutter 29,892]

reported in today's rage that oral submissions will be allowed in dank's appeal

seems dank's team "thought" this wasn't allowed. they seem to be really on top of this appeal 

[george_on_the_outer 7,843]

It is important to remember that this hearing has nothing to do with the Essendon players, TB4 or anything else that Dank was supplying. It is about trafficking.

To quote from the Age today:

While he was cleared of three charges relating to administering the banned drug thymosin beta 4, the AFL anti-doping tribunal, under chairman David Jones, found to its comfortable satisfaction that he had sought to "traffick in [TB4], by selling, giving, transporting, sending, delivering and/or distributing to a third party or parties, namely the Essendon Football Club" between January 2012 and September 2012.

 

[daisycutter 29,892]

14 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It is important to remember that this hearing has nothing to do with the Essendon players, TB4 or anything else that Dank was supplying. It is about trafficking.

To quote from the Age today:

While he was cleared of three charges relating to administering the banned drug thymosin beta 4, the AFL anti-doping tribunal, under chairman David Jones, found to its comfortable satisfaction that he had sought to "traffick in [TB4], by selling, giving, transporting, sending, delivering and/or distributing to a third party or parties, namely the Essendon Football Club" between January 2012 and September 2012.

 

presumabty though. george, because this appeal is  "de novo" and tb4 administration was part of the initial hearing, is it possible he could be found guilty of administering tb4? any lawyers want to comment?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

On 19/11/2016 at 11:40 AM, daisycutter said:

reported in today's rage that oral submissions will be allowed in dank's appeal

seems dank's team "thought" this wasn't allowed. they seem to be really on top of this appeal 

This makes me think that the phrase "to w*nk like Dank" really ought to become part of the lingo ... Perhaps he is using Essendon's lawyers?