In the event that the decision is made on H's retirement at any time over the coming months, then the solution for the club in terms of what to do with its list would be simple. Replace him with Joel Smith by way of an upgrade from the Category B rookie list. We won't be found short of a player and have additional space to find other Category B rookies.

3 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In the event that the decision is made on H's retirement at any time over the coming months, then the solution for the club in terms of what to do with its list would be simple. Replace him with Joel Smith by way of an upgrade from the Category B rookie list. We won't be found short of a player and have additional space to find other Category B rookies.

hmmm....stop making sense Jack !!    This is Demonland in the off season after all. 

4 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In the event that the decision is made on H's retirement at any time over the coming months, then the solution for the club in terms of what to do with its list would be simple. Replace him with Joel Smith by way of an upgrade from the Category B rookie list.

I don't rate Smith, I'd rather be in a position to get Barrett as a DFA.

6 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I don't rate Smith, I'd rather be in a position to get Barrett as a DFA.

Damian? 

Edited November 23, 20168 yr by Satyriconhome

6 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I don't rate Smith, I'd rather be in a position to get Barrett as a DFA.

Don't think he'll go until after Nov 30, which I think is the last list lodgement date. If he goes after that for 'medical' reasons then he gets a payout from the AFL as well as can negotiate with the club. The club may have asked him to do that, so half his wage is saved from the salary cap, and we might be able to bank $200k or so and that will help retain or attract players.

I would ask for those who still hang onto any thoughts he might hang around - why can't he do the running sessions, or at least appear at training? From all reports he's been pretty much unsighted which even with an injury is pretty ordinary in a team sport like this. 

Will not play for us again, claiming he was blocked from playing games last year, wants to sue cos his 4th year wasn't auto-triggered.

Heritier Lumumba set to retire, could take legal action over concussion treatment

 

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As late as Tuesday, Lumumba had consulted further specialists about his condition.

doctor shopping?

Wow....set to retire and possibly sue the club?

Gee didn't see this coming. Could smell a lawsuit a mile off. 

I'm inclined to think he's just wasting everyone's time now. I've got sympathy for players suffering medical conditions but there's been a sharpness of oddity around this whole situation from day one.

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The club has been negotiating with him for some time over his claims, a situation made more difficult by the fact he parted ways with his manager. The club consequently approached the AFL Players' Association to assist in negotiations.

seems to be burning quite a few bridges

Will be interesting to see how the proposed lawsuit goes...

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

Will not play for us again, claiming he was blocked from playing games last year, wants to sue cos his 4th year wasn't auto-triggered.

Heritier Lumumba set to retire, could take legal action over concussion treatment 

What 4th year when you're not even playing a third?

[censored] me.

So he's claiming that due to last year, he now can't play enough games this year to mean he gets a 4th year. I'm assuming that it means they're regular season games and he had to get to 50 games played to get an automatic extension.

Just now, Seraph said:

What 4th year when you're not even playing a third?

[censored] me.

Exactly. Whats stopping him from playing and having an awesome year next year and earning another contract as opposed to having it 'triggered'. Just get on with it.

When you read the headline it is implied that Melbourne were negligent in looking after his safety.

To read that he is allegedly upset that they were being too cautious is laughable.

1 minute ago, Seraph said:

What 4th year when you're not even playing a third?

[censored] me.

His contract had an auto trigger for a fourth year if he played enough games. He can no longer reach that trigger as he didn't play enough last year. He is claiming the club held him back on purpose so he couldn't reach the trigger this year. He says he felt fine but the docs wouldn't let him play. 

Don't really care what it costs, he now must be gone as his claims are a nonsense. 

2 minutes ago, Seraph said:

What 4th year when you're not even playing a third?

[censored] me.

I get the impression he just wants to retire with the rest of his contract paid out (two more years), and the club obviously balked at his demands. The situation clearly escalated if the MFC had to seek legal advice finding grounds not to pay out a fourth year of his contract (didn't reach triggers).

Rich of H to cite the MFC's cautious approach to concussion as being "blocked" from playing games. He'd be suing us for playing him while concussed if the situation were reversed!

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

Will not play for us again, claiming he was blocked from playing games last year, wants to sue cos his 4th year wasn't auto-triggered.

Heritier Lumumba set to retire, could take legal action over concussion treatment 

Replace your "wasn't auto-triggered" by "now can't be auto-triggered".

Hard to see what case he has. But if you thought you were right to play, and the club was stopping you, and you were left watching the possibility of another year and another $x00 000 disappear, I don't know that you'd be too happy (even if the club were right).

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

His contract had an auto trigger for a fourth year if he played enough games. He can no longer reach that trigger as he didn't play enough last year. He is claiming the club held him back on purpose so he couldn't reach the trigger this year. He says he felt fine but the docs wouldn't let him play. 

Don't really care what it costs, he now must be gone as his claims are a nonsense. 

Sorry I edited it.

I'm assuming the trigger is 50 games played for the club. 

If he played every game this year and we made the GF after losing a qualifying final, wouldn't that mean he gets to 50?

He has played 24 games.

23 rounds, 1 bye, so 46 played.

Qualifying final, semi, prelim & GF makes 50 played.

Messy and unfortunate. Not helping himself, even if he is frustrated with how things have turned out.

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

Replace your "wasn't auto-triggered" by "now can't be auto-triggered".

Hard to see what case he has. But if you thought you were right to play, and the club was stopping you, and you were left watching the possibility of another year and another $x00 000 disappear, I don't know that you'd be too happy (even if the club were right).

Even if he was right to play he wasn't good enough to deserve a spot in the team.

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Even if he was right to play he wasn't good enough to deserve a spot in the team.

Exactly, rather laughable of him to suggest he was automatically good enough to be an instant selection just because the docs cleared him. For that reason, he hasn't really got a case here.

3 minutes ago, Seraph said:

Sorry I edited it.

I'm assuming the trigger is 50 games played for the club. 

If he played every game this year and we made the GF after losing a qualifying final, wouldn't that mean he gets to 50?

He has played 24 games.

23 rounds, 1 bye, so 46 played.

Qualifying final, semi, prelim & GF makes 50 played.

Maybe the trigger is more than 50. who knows really. 

Just now, Chris said:

Maybe the trigger is more than 50. who knows really. 

Could be, either way it's rather ridiculous that he's even making these claims at all.

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

Will not play for us again, claiming he was blocked from playing games last year, wants to sue cos his 4th year wasn't auto-triggered.

Heritier Lumumba set to retire, could take legal action over concussion treatment 

The Prince thinks he knows more than the Doctors. 

I am sure the Docs wouldn't Block him from playing out of spite, for exactly this reason. 

H. Maybe just Maybe the Doctors were looking after your health long term. 

Concussion is only now being fully understood