18 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Agree, bur Spencer is unfairly maligned on here, never let the team down when given the opportunity

But if we are going down that path, not sure a VFL ruckman is the  'instant' answer, and there is not much out there, in my opinion

Some have mentioned Minson, he is playing VFL for a reason, we will see how he goes against Pencil and McInerny this weekend

Spencer certainly doesn't let the team down with his effort or agression, however his foot skills and footy smarts do from what I recall watching him at AFL level.  That said, bar the Geelong game (in which he actually looked OK), pretty much every other game he's played in I recall at AFL level, the whole team played like crap and that's always a hard environment to perform in.

I defiantly think he's worth holding on to and thought that the club should have played him a few times this year to help him develop, but also give big Max a bit of a chop out.  I'm a bit concerned that Max is going to get burnt out doing it all on his own, particularly against two genuine ruck types most weeks.  I also don't think it's good to use Jack Watts to relieve in the ruck on a regular basis, although it is useful that he has now developed a bit of a capability there now and perhaps it might help his physicality and combativeness in that regard to jump in there every now and then.

9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Both garbage posts. 

When you claim to speak for "most" on Land it's not your opinion chap, it's a lie.

But it is my opinion Moonie, if you consider it a lie, that's entirely up to you, think I can live with it.

Could say exactly the same about your epistles, but too polite to do that

In my opinion, Spencer has been in the delist or trade topics for at least the last four years

5 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Spencer certainly doesn't let the team down with his effort or agression, however his foot skills and footy smarts do from what I recall watching him at AFL level.  That said, bar the Geelong game (in which he actually looked OK), pretty much every other game he's played in I recall at AFL level, the whole team played like crap and that's always a hard environment to perform in.

I defiantly think he's worth holding on to and thought that the club should have played him a few times this year to help him develop, but also give big Max a bit of a chop out.  I'm a bit concerned that Max is going to get burnt out doing it all on his own, particularly against two genuine ruck types most weeks.  I also don't think it's good to use Jack Watts to relieve in the ruck on a regular basis, although it is useful that he has now developed a bit of a capability there now and perhaps it might help his physicality and combativeness in that regard to jump in there every now and then.

Wattsy is growing self belief from the ruckwork,  which 2 seasons ago he would have been too timid for.  So he may get sore, but he grows more as a man.

It's not the long term plan I'm sure, but its helping him realise what he can do.

On 23/09/2016 at 0:13 PM, Satyriconhome said:

Agree, bur Spencer is unfairly maligned on here, never let the team down when given the opportunity

But if we are going down that path, not sure a VFL ruckman is the  'instant' answer, and there is not much out there, in my opinion

Some have mentioned Minson, he is playing VFL for a reason, we will see how he goes against Pencil and McInerny this weekend

Just out of interest, which players on our list do you think are fairly maligned?

7 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

Just out of interest, which players on our list do you think are fairly maligned?

Not many, because, until I am corrected, the maligners have never been on an AFL list, an opinion I have expressed on here before

27 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Not many, because, until I am corrected, the maligners have never been on an AFL list, an opinion I have expressed on here before

So without being on an AFL list you can't possibly be in a position to judge AFL players.

better let Carlton know they should sack Brendan Bolten.

30 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Not many, because, until I am corrected, the maligners have never been on an AFL list, an opinion I have expressed on here before

How about when the opinion of a poster matches that of a commentator/writer with three hundred games of AFL experience?

44 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Not many, because, until I am corrected, the maligners have never been on an AFL list, an opinion I have expressed on here before

What a farcical comment. By that logic, if a doctor is responsible for the death of a loved one due to their negligence, you shouldn't be angry because you couldn't have done any better yourself. 

Are chefs the only people allowed to give an opinion on food?

Astrologists the only people allowed to comment on the weather?

3 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

What a farcical comment. By that logic, if a doctor is responsible for the death of a loved one due to their negligence, you shouldn't be angry because you couldn't have done any better yourself. 

Are chefs the the only people allowed to give an opinion on food?

Is Saty the only person able to give an opinion on scooters?

4 minutes ago, Luther said:

Is Saty the only person able to give an opinion on scooters?

Honestly, what a ridiculous comment. Imagine a world where we could only comment on things related to our profession. Imbecilic.

16 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

What a farcical comment. By that logic, if a doctor is responsible for the death of a loved one due to their negligence, you shouldn't be angry because you couldn't have done any better yourself. 

Are chefs the only people allowed to give an opinion on food?

Astrologists the only people allowed to comment on the weather?

Regarding the now deleted comments; playing at AFL level, or even having any talent whatsoever is not a prerequisite for posting football related opinions on Demonland.  

The day it becomes a prerequisite is the day I hand the keys in since I'm in the "none whatsoever" category.

What the hell is the club doing putting Jason Taylor in charge of recruiting? He's never been on an AFL list, so what would he know about what it takes to make it as an AFL footballer?

Oscar managed only a 12.8 in the state screening beep test. Even by big man standards that shows he has a lot of work to do on his tank if he gets on an AFL list and wants a game at the highest level.

42 minutes ago, Oliver Sholem said:

Oscar managed only a 12.8 in the state screening beep test. Even by big man standards that shows he has a lot of work to do on his tank if he gets on an AFL list and wants a game at the highest level.

I don't think that's too bad. He's had what, 1 year at Casey? If he's coming off a low base of professional training that can improve a fair bit

I suspect Oscar is on people's radars at the moment because he did enough in the qualifying and preliminary finals, from seemingly nowhere, to excite a 'who-is-this-guy/where-did-he-come-from' reaction, particularly in the qualifying where everyone looked good. Are any 'landers aware of a bigger picture that warrants interest?

I think he should be in the frame. He was smashed in the VFL GF along with Spencer which looked bad and cooled expectations, but his overall rate of improvement last year was great.  He has a lot of scope for physical development.  We need to draft at least one ruckman.

 

I think he should be in the frame. He was smashed in the VFL GF along with Spencer which looked bad and cooled expectations, but his overall rate of improvement last year was great.  He has a lot of scope for physical development.  We need to draft at least one ruckman.

Given that most turn out to be busts, i wouldn't bat an eyelid if we picked ruckman with all our ND and RD picks

I'd much rather we go after a ruck prospect such as McInerney as opposed to keeping White on the rookie list for another year. We have plenty of mid-sized defenders, but our ruck / key position depth is abysmal.

We need to look at a ready-made ruckman in the rookie draft, heaven help us if Gawn gets injured.

 

Not many, because, until I am corrected, the maligners have never been on an AFL list, an opinion I have expressed on here before

Ah.   That old chestnut. 

I will ask you this.   If you can't  criticise the bad can you appreciate the good? 

And if so how do you know what good is if you aren't permitted to judge the standard if you haven't been on an afl list? 

What do you actually do at the football if you won't allow yourself to judge the merits or otherwise of what occurs in front of you?   

It has been suggested to me that 204cm Oscar is likely to be drafted before Melbourne's first pick is called out at 47.

Here's a story in the local news on the young Casey tall - 

Scorpion Oscar McInerney, all 204cm of him, is attracting interest from AFL clubs

Heard any whisperings on Keilty and Smith KC?

 

It has been suggested to me that 204cm Oscar is likely to be drafted before Melbourne's first pick is called out at 47.

Here's a story in the local news on the young Casey tall - 

Scorpion Oscar McInerney, all 204cm of him, is attracting interest from AFL clubs

Seems we didn't hide him enough. You were meant to distract all the scouts with bacon and egg rolls KC!!!

 

Heard any whisperings on Keilty and Smith KC?

No but I don't really go to the club much once the season is over.