I'll say it now we will never progress if these two are the Linchpins of our backline! Period!

Yeah our forward line has twice as many attempts to kick goals but it's our back mans fault. 

Have a good look at the replay, Tom is a turn over King 

8 minutes ago, Demanding Success said:

Yeah our forward line has twice as many attempts to kick goals but it's our back mans fault. 

You are missing the piont! Critical errors, turnovers today, cost 4 if not 5 goals! Agree had plenty of scoring shots and should have converted, but the critical errors these two cause, Are inexcusible! PERIOD!

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by picket fence

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

You are missing the piont! Critical errors, turnovers today, cost 4 if not 5 goals! Agree had plenty of scoring shots and should have converted, but the critical errors these two cause, Are inexcusible! PERIOD!

Hogshite!

I agree

No other player made an errors or gave away stupid free kicks

No one else missed shots at goal

The umpires certainly didn't change momentum.

Go start a Dawes had a great game thread [censored]... seriously stupid agenda 

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by Unleash Hell
Apparently f log is censored lolz

Holy hell am I glad I've got this peanut on ignore.  Makes a rubbish thread every week. 

Oh, you don't like the McDonalds Picket? I hadn't notice - from the 40 other threads you've potted them in over the last 3 days. 

Definetely needs its own thread.

Mods?

Can't this at least be merged with one of the other "The McDonalds are crap" threads that Picket started?

Tom's turnovers today cruelled us and Oscar just doesn't have the body to compete 1 on 1 with the big boys but I don't see any alternatives atm. Tom undoes any good work with basic skill errors.

They were both terrible today.

Tom with his shytty kicks 

Oscar trying to outbody bigger opponents.

That said, OMac will be better after a year in the gym.

Tom has some great attributes but his mistakes literally cost games .They seem like avoidable mistakes but they keep recurring .I am a fan of Tom but why the short dangerous option? Get it right FFS.

10 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Tom's turnovers today cruelled us and Oscar just doesn't have the body to compete 1 on 1 with the big boys but I don't see any alternatives atm. Tom undoes any good work with basic skill errors.

 

 

 

Exactly. He does one good spoil or takes one good mark and then will somehow find a way to turn it over...needs to fix this ASAP. 

How much is Tom worth?  If he is holding out for more money, tell him to get stuffed.  Turn over King of the AFL

Tom reminds me of Zac Dawson in many ways, but to be fair, he is probably a better player than Zac.

Tom can be a solid defender... Actually, make that; He IS a solid defender. But as soon as he gets the ball, we all hold our breath as he often turns it over leading to an opposition goal. His best bet is to go long to the boundary in most circumstances. 

I hope we keep him but don't pay 'overs' for him.

33 minutes ago, picket fence said:

You are missing the piont! Critical errors, turnovers today, cost 4 if not 5 goals! Agree had plenty of scoring shots and should have converted, but the critical errors these two cause, Are inexcusible! PERIOD!

All teams have turnovers.  The forwards cost us today.

you don't have 30 more inside 50's and lose. 

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by Demons11

Kennedy kicked 3, Darling kicked 1, WCE kicked 10 goals MacDonald (O&T) did ok today against ones of the best forwards in the game (Kennedy) and helped cut the margin that WCE usually kick against us (at home) by over 40 points... 

Some here should save their vitriol for when our backs actually play badly.

 

Tom McDonald was very good again, but as usual, a couple of critical turnovers (bad turnovers, not 50/50 turnovers) cost us dearly.

Business as usual.

His best and worst are so far apart it isn't funny. And not just week to week, but within games also.

McDonalds: Bad for your health.

5 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Kennedy kicked 3, Darling kicked 1, WCE kicked 10 goals MacDonald (O&T) did ok today against ones of the best forwards in the game (Kennedy) and helped cut the margin that WCE usually kick against us (at home) by over 40 points... 

Some here should save their vitriol for when our backs actually play badly.

 

Sheeit I can't believe It These two cost Crucial goals at times when momentum was swinging FMD! 

Enough putting up with shizen mistakes and efforts!

Just now, Forest Demon said:

Tom McDonald was very good again, but as usual, a couple of critical turnovers (bad turnovers, not 50/50 turnovers) cost us dearly.

Business as usual.

His best and worst are so far apart it isn't funny. And not just week to week, but within games also.

That is fair and just.

Any other opinions are unbalanced.

Picket has a point but babies/bath water.

Ok so if you're analysing the game for lost goals, what about Hogan's pathetic efforts today? a key forward who struggles to kick from 50 and was absent for half the game...

He played worse than both the Macs, was out shone by Dawes,... but no mention...

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by PaulRB

5 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Kennedy kicked 3, Darling kicked 1, WCE kicked 10 goals MacDonald (O&T) did ok today against ones of the best forwards in the game (Kennedy) and helped cut the margin that WCE usually kick against us (at home) by over 40 points... 

Some here should save their vitriol for when our backs actually play badly.

 

When you've got certain posters smashing players week in, week out, it means that others will start to simply focus on the mistakes and the negatives and not look for the positives.  Tom makes mistakes but he also does some terrific things in our backline.  However, that gets glossed over while his mistakes are magnified.

I reckon Tom played well today. Oscar got outbodied a couple of times but it's his 13th game for f's sake.

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

When you've got certain posters smashing players week in, week out, it means that others will start to simply focus on the mistakes and the negatives and not look for the positives.  Tom makes mistakes but he also does some terrific things in our backline.  However, that gets glossed over while his mistakes are magnified.

Because he costs CRUCIAL Goals!! , But dont worry about that, Noddy and Big Ears will call Mr Plod and everything will be all OK!

You really have no idea have you?? Have you ever played the game??

t.mcd played his normal game. Good spoils and interception... BUT 3-4 CRUCIAL MISTAKES COSTING GOALS.

o.mcd was uninspiring AGAIN. He has had 7 poor games in the last 8 weeks. Weak physically and skills not up to scratch. Hesitates too much. Time to restart his development at CASEY.