Good luck but I think your perspective will be so much more aligned with reality if you stop reading Demonland and simply check in occasionally with the media who for the most part still realise we're a 7 win/15 th placed team.

i can't believe the Posters on this site that continually slag off "experts" in the media that deliver anything but glowing comments on MFC.

The reality is we're in another slow rebuild after making more horrendous recruiting, coaching & managemnt decisions than any Club has in the last 50 years but the last 10 in particular. 

We dont yet have any true Elite A Grade players and it is correct, we hardly have a player worthy of a top 50 list atm.

Kent, Tyson, McDonald, Vandenberg, etc who get massively overrated on this site are just average to good players.

My point is that by reading D'land too much to get your perspective, you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.

 

5 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

That's laughable

What more is it supposed to be, I pay my membership (in September), I do a few things with the club, I go to games....I get disappointed with poor performances.....I tell the players about things I wasn't happy with

Just go away...It is a social outing to you. 

I want premiership cups..

14 minutes ago, WhyAlwaysMe said:

you Unfortunatelyust leave by saying i quit, when Goodwin gets the Defibrillator out & your baby demon starts breathing fire again you will be making plans around match day again. 

Nah, that baby Demon was had suposedly grown Into a boy and going to reach puberty this season. There was some word around the traps that his balls were also gonna finally drop yesterday...but alas

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Just go away...It is a social outing to you. 

I want premiership cups..

And I don't, is that what you are inferring, just don't need them DESPERATELY

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Just go away...It is a social outing to you. 

I want premiership cups..

And I don't, is that what you are inferring, just don't need them DESPERATELY

7 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

And I don't, is that what you are inferring, just don't need them DESPERATELY

Exactly...you don't really care

you just enjoy the social side of it. 

Join a Rotary Club

i want to win AFL PREMIERSHIPS

I don't think Essendon are as bad as the media give them credit. They have a very good coaching list of past coaches and there top up players where in the top 10 at there past clubs.

I thought this from day one but unfortunately the media Have been saying they will not win a game this year which is the reason why this lose hurts so much, they will win more then people think. The back half of the year is when they will struggle. 

Don't lose faith yet, let's see how the boys bounce back next week. It is only round two you know.

9 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

I just see todays game as another (painful) bump in the road of a very slow rebuild... but for some reason I still feel we are heading in the right direction.

Once we get guys like Tracca, Weed and Trenners into the team and they are settled we will be much better.   

I feel like I should be angrier but actually I am quite optimistic about the Goodwin takeover, I just hope it is brought forward.

Feel much the same. There is more talent to come in. We need better tactics, as do Fremantle. And we need more time, but as my only game live for the year (perhaps) I feel very let down with that performance. Though for two quarters the week before we were probably worse.

still and all

go Dees!!  I will watch the tube next week and sip the beer

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's just sport, same as posting on here, you have winners and losers, people who stand on the sidelines watching, people who abuse, some whose own feelings of inadequacy are patently demonstrated, I chat to the players about soccer, music, comedy, charity work and footy

Right with you that one Saty, it's just a sport.  A lot of people here need to get some serious perspective in their lives. Hell of a lot more important things going on in this world then a football club.

I love the Dees, I love footy. But I've lost a lot more in important thing in my life then to get hung up on football.

1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

Good luck but I think your perspective will be so much more aligned with reality if you stop reading Demonland and simply check in occasionally with the media who for the most part still realise we're a 7 win/15 th placed team.

i can't believe the Posters on this site that continually slag off "experts" in the media that deliver anything but glowing comments on MFC.

The reality is we're in another slow rebuild after making more horrendous recruiting, coaching & managemnt decisions than any Club has in the last 50 years but the last 10 in particular. 

We dont yet have any true Elite A Grade players and it is correct, we hardly have a player worthy of a top 50 list atm.

Kent, Tyson, McDonald, Vandenberg, etc who get massively overrated on this site are just average to good players.

My point is that by reading D'land too much to get your perspective, you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.

 

Well said GWD.    Tend to agree with you.  I have often thought I enjoyed supporting the Dees in all the bad times but it does seem worse now that I am aware of Demonland.  I love reading everyones posts, just like the OP, where I am from there are few dee fans so its great to be amongst fellow Dees supporters and undersatnd that I do not suffer alone.  Or celebrate alone.  

But %^&* me!  Yesterdays output!

 

I drove 4 hours with my 7 year old to be at the game.  I thought surely I can put a smile on the little fellas face during the game.  But no.  Out strutted the Demons.  Embarrassed themselves and once again, us fans.  I am sick of the embarrassment.  And tired of the embarrassment.

39 minutes ago, ILLDieADemon said:

I don't think Essendon are as bad as the media give them credit. They have a very good coaching list of past coaches and there top up players where in the top 10 at there past clubs.

I thought this from day one but unfortunately the media Have been saying they will not win a game this year which is the reason why this lose hurts so much, they will win more then people think. The back half of the year is when they will struggle. 

Don't lose faith yet, let's see how the boys bounce back next week. It is only round two you know.

That explains them having 128 more disposals, 71 more marks and 16 more tackles ?

The only thing that explains those discrepancies is effort, talent and structures/gameplan.

While some of our talent may be overrated, no-one will convince me that Essendon had more, so I'm left with effort and gameplan. 

Our gameplan is a work in progress, but it was sound enough to beat a very talented young side in GWS.

This leaves me with effort.  Why our effort was abysmal in round 2 of the season is mystifying.  So I'm left blaming both the players and coaching group.  Someone needs to show leadership this week. 

Edited April 3, 20169 yr by ProDee

10 hours ago, Buzzy said:

I wouldn't go quite as far as you - but my faith has certainly been rocked in a big way after today.  I stopped reading training reports a couple of years back because the only thing I can trust in are results.

This kills my vibe for football as a whole.  Then watching teams like Gold Coast and the Bulldogs play so well today with SPEED and SKILL .. I feel like we have so very little of that in our team that we can't possibly turn things around in a meaningful, sustained way.  

 

I couldn't believe how good the Dogs were last night. They are SO FAR ahead of MFC in the skills department.I grew up in Dog land, I'm wondering if I can change the leopard spots I acquired while watching the Demons play like tossers during the 1958 grand final.

Yesterday was a disgrace. Whether essendon are better than people thought is irrelevant, half our boys didn't show up. People calling for us to re-sign blokes like Watts, Tyson & McDonald ahead of chasing Prestia & Hurley have no idea. They would've had a dip at least!! 

As for the AFL, I agree, sick of the bs! And as long as you have a rules committee the rules will keep changing, as much to justify their existence as for any real need to 'fix' the game. Too many people making careers off the AFL & adding nothing positive to the game. Media saturation, lies, scandals, sweeping facts under the carpet, loyalty both to players & clubs out the window. All so the game can be a faster spectacle, and churn more money out of suckers like us!!! I could have had an incredible holiday house given the $$ we've given this club & this sport the last 15 years alone!!!

Stuff this, I'm going to the shooting range to 'meditate'

5 minutes ago, ProDee said:

That explains them having 128 more disposals, 71 more marks and 16 more tackles ?

The only thing that explains those discrepancies is effort, talent and structures/gameplan.

While some of our talent may be overrated, no-one will convince me that Essendon had more, so I'm left with effort and gameplan. 

Our gameplan is a work in progress, but it was sound enough to beat a very talented young side in GWS.

This leaves me with effort.  Why our effort was abysmal in round 2 of the season is mystifying.  So I'm left blaming both the players and coaching group.  Someone needs to show leadership this week. 

Inexorable logic.

11 hours ago, Ascobar said:

 

 

Dear Demonland,

 

I am not a regular poster but I have been religiously reading Demonland for several years now.

 

However, after watching (most of) the match against Essendon I’ve decided it is time to bid farewell to Demonland and take a break from watching football indefinitely. I have lost the enjoyment of following the game and club I have loved for the last 27 odd years.

 

The performance of our players against a club I despise so much (ever since their dirty tactics against our young players in the 2000 grand final) was nothing short of soul destroying. Of course there have been worse defeats than that of late, but after all the positivity around the club during the pre-season it is so deflating and incomprehensible to see the team play with so little spirit and coherency.

 

But that’s not the only reason. The state of the game and the management of the league has becoming a complete farce with the constant rule changes, draft manipulations, and unequal fixturing, not to mention the appallingly inconsistent decision-making of the AFL governing body. Watching clubs like Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney consistently being able to top up their lists without dropping from contention is a complete farce and against the spirit of the game as far as I am concerned.

 

But before I sign off I wanted to say a big thank you to all those that contribute to this forum.

 

I have greatly enjoyed the incredible amount of passion and insightful input provided by the majority of posters. As someone who has been living overseas the last few years with limited opportunities to see the Dees play on the hallowed turf of the MCG I have found the forum to be a great resource. Particularly, the training reports which help keep the fires burning during the off season.

 

I hope you all continue to keep the passion going and I hope the club will (eventually) turn things around and become a finals team once again.

 

Ascobar

P.S. Shout outs to my favourite posters in Whispering Jack, Steve the Man, and Saty plus all the moderators and administrators for keeping the forum afloat.

 

gees mate, i saw Fitzroy whoop our ass by 200 points in the late 70's and have never once considered walking away from the club. Hope you rediscover the passion, all the best

12 hours ago, Ascobar said:

 

 

Dear Demonland,

 

I am not a regular poster but I have been religiously reading Demonland for several years now.

 

However, after watching (most of) the match against Essendon I’ve decided it is time to bid farewell to Demonland and take a break from watching football indefinitely. I have lost the enjoyment of following the game and club I have loved for the last 27 odd years.

 

The performance of our players against a club I despise so much (ever since their dirty tactics against our young players in the 2000 grand final) was nothing short of soul destroying. Of course there have been worse defeats than that of late, but after all the positivity around the club during the pre-season it is so deflating and incomprehensible to see the team play with so little spirit and coherency.

 

But that’s not the only reason. The state of the game and the management of the league has becoming a complete farce with the constant rule changes, draft manipulations, and unequal fixturing, not to mention the appallingly inconsistent decision-making of the AFL governing body. Watching clubs like Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney consistently being able to top up their lists without dropping from contention is a complete farce and against the spirit of the game as far as I am concerned.

 

But before I sign off I wanted to say a big thank you to all those that contribute to this forum.

 

I have greatly enjoyed the incredible amount of passion and insightful input provided by the majority of posters. As someone who has been living overseas the last few years with limited opportunities to see the Dees play on the hallowed turf of the MCG I have found the forum to be a great resource. Particularly, the training reports which help keep the fires burning during the off season.

 

I hope you all continue to keep the passion going and I hope the club will (eventually) turn things around and become a finals team once again.

 

Ascobar

P.S. Shout outs to my favourite posters in Whispering Jack, Steve the Man, and Saty plus all the moderators and administrators for keeping the forum afloat.

 

“If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster, and treat those two imposters just the same…” Bitter but Optimistic just before the 1987 Wimbledon mixed where he partnered Dr Rene Richards.

Me, I'm perhaps a little more coarse when I say 'ffs, pull yourself together man'.

 

 

 

The simple fact is, there is no 'material' reason for the Demons to have lost to Essendon. We had a much better group of players out there, fully capable of smashing the clearances, dominating the forward line, and breaking even in defence.

But it didn't happen because they thought it already had.

And then Paul Roos comes out and says 'the players got a big head'. Yeah? Just the players, eh?

20 weeks left to determine how Paul Roos is remembered by Melbourne. And... if he really buggers it up, he could drop into the 'Pagan/Malthouse' hole.

People will begin asking if a coach really is that big a deal, if three of the 'greats' all fall in a heap as soon as they are given a challenging situation to deal with.

 

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't regard them as mates, they are just people I know, 

 

I go to training on my days off, as part of my day out, I take photos to post on Twitter for interstate supporters who appreciate them, I chat to players and other supporters about a myriad of subjects

But I also realise that it is only sport, not the most important thing in the world

I just let it go past me SWYL, I don't whinge about it

I was that angry yesterday I nearly smashed the tv to bits , the reason I didn't is because Iv already done it twice they had all there legends waving jackets we should've  bought the [censored] shovels and buried them .

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Exactly...you don't really care

you just enjoy the social side of it. 

Join a Rotary Club

i want to win AFL PREMIERSHIPS

Ok chap you really care, there will be volunteers ringing supporters for membership renewal tomorrow night at the club    care to join them?

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Ok chap you really care, there will be volunteers ringing supporters for membership renewal tomorrow night at the club    care to join them?

You want me to volunteer to get abused by supporters Tomorrow night?

And Cop an earfull from you?

hahaha no i will decline but thanks so much for asking

46 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You want me to volunteer to get abused by supporters Tomorrow night?

And Cop an earfull from you?

hahaha no i will decline but thanks so much for asking

So you can abuse everybody else but you can't get abuse yourself, impressive....well not really more weak as........... you have no right to tell me I don't care

Gosh you two are boring.

5 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

gees mate, i saw Fitzroy whoop our ass by 200 points in the late 70's and have never once considered walking away from the club. Hope you rediscover the passion, all the best

Yeah, this loss was no wear near the 186 Geelong loss At Simonds stadium I was at. Yesterday's loss isn't bad enough to stop supporting the club, is it??

6 hours ago, ProDee said:

That explains them having 128 more disposals, 71 more marks and 16 more tackles ?

The only thing that explains those discrepancies is effort, talent and structures/gameplan.

While some of our talent may be overrated, no-one will convince me that Essendon had more, so I'm left with effort and gameplan. 

Our gameplan is a work in progress, but it was sound enough to beat a very talented young side in GWS.

This leaves me with effort.  Why our effort was abysmal in round 2 of the season is mystifying.  So I'm left blaming both the players and coaching group.  Someone needs to show leadership this week. 

Like Roos said in his press conference, there were a few players out their that were big headed about this game. 

Giants just beat Geelong by 13 points so we can't be that bad. Let's see how the rest of the season pans out. 

2 minutes ago, ILLDieADemon said:

Like Roos said in his press conference, there were a few players out their that were big headed about this game. 

Giants just beat Geelong by 13 points so we can't be that bad. Let's see how the rest of the season pans out. 

So if we're not that bad then the effort was sh11house ?